Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[ziaulislam]

Muhammad Ali Jinnah, his sister and Hussain Sarwardey are now similar to likes of Sohail Afridi, Achakzai and Imran Khan? What is this delusion?

100% that elected representative were put in jail by your heroes

Yes they mujeeb ur rehman and imran khan exactly share rhe same thing 1000%

 

[I*R*A]

100% that elected representative were put in jail by your heroes

Yes they mujeeb ur rehman and imran khan exactly share rhe same thing 1000%

Stop being dishonest. There is no resemblance between Fatima Jinnah and Sohail Afridi.

The task was simple, crackdown on the criminal and terrorist elements in the province, bring back peace, strengthen the law and order situation .. but no, long marches somehow took priority over everything else.

 

[flyingorca]

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To be honest, she used her brother's influence to get votes.

Their importance ended after Pakistan was created. Mr Jinnah could not even convince his own COS who was British gora to step in Kashmir issue or use his power to veto British influence on Pakistan military at the time of independence. In a hypothetical scenario, where both lived for another 100+ years, how would they have tackled issues Pakistan would face? India as Pakistan's enemy was pretty much inherited over Kashmir dispute. Even if Bangladeshis rights were fulfilled, how would they tackled India's influence over east Pakistan which was geographically cut off from west Pak.
And then if they were alive to face WOT, how would they have handled US consequences if Pakistan did not participate? You think speeches would have worked against WOT new world order plans?

I do not want to get banned again so I will stop questioning things that should not be questioned and accept its all because of Fauj.

 

[flyingorca]

100% that elected representative were put in jail by your heroes

Yes they mujeeb ur rehman and imran khan exactly share rhe same thing 1000%

Mujeeb had India's support, is PTI willing to go this low to get in power?

 

[Master Chief]

Pakistani awaam is mature enough for democracy.

I would not feel personally aggrieved by the inference to the contrary. The vast majority of nations who profess democratic institutions and checks and balances and rule of law simply state these things for show. In reality, they are electoral autocracies, at best. Moreover, several of these nations "impose" representative democracy on developing nations as a means of control. We are often led to believe that autocracy is easily controlled by malevolent 3rd parties from afar - that is only true if the dictator plays ball (Saddam, Gaddafi, Noriega, Chavez, Castro, Maduro....etc etc). Meanwhile, democracy can be manipulated at a fraction of the cost.

One only needs to glance over the eastern border, or at USA/UK, to understand all the above. The oligarchs reign supreme in most "democracies". India, rather amateurishly, thinks it can nation build in Pakistan by backing the same Khan they used to call Taliban Khan hardly a year or so ago. Indians posting here do make me laugh - they think we are stupid and they themselves are the Bollywood heroes that the third world needs.

Then there's the one nation that actually tells it how it is - China, giving a big red middle finger to so called representative democracy and proud of it. Ancient Greece would be equally proud. One of the few things Khan was right about (without him really realising why he was right) was that the Chinese example is the one to follow.

 

[Forsvaret]

Their importance ended after Pakistan was created.

Could the same be said about the CIVILIAN politicians on the other side of the fence (India) who were faced with similar if not worse problems than thinking only about the Kashmir issue? How many times Indian military generals thought of getting rid of their own politicians or impose martial law in the country — but still chose NOT to do so?

 

[Forsvaret]

Mujeeb had India's support, is PTI willing to go this low to get in power?

Military establishment always has US support to remain in power indefinitely with brut force & crushing dissent. And your point is?

 

[Forsvaret]

Then there's the one nation that actually tells it how it is - China, giving a big red middle finger to so called representative democracy and proud of it.

China is not a West-like representative democracy. But it's a "democracy" within a one-party communist state. This unique political system actually works & delivers for the majority of Chinese citizens — unlike the current "system" of military establishment in Pakistan.

 

[ziaulislam]

Mujeeb had India's support, is PTI willing to go this low to get in power?

Mujeeb had bengalis support

Stop acting that like duch bag ..**** around and find around

Punjabi dominated establishment fucked the bengalis and WHO ACTUALLY CREATED PAKISTAN by throwing their leader like Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy the right hand of jinnah and in jail then his protege in jail and thought bengalis wont rebel

What are you and the established??? Morons with a IQ of 70

Seriously whats wrong with people.. bringing mujeeb ur rehman is absolutely a stupid move for your case, there is a reason why irs not taught in Pakistan because no sane person with iq above 70 will blame mujeeb for joining india against the establishment

Hell probably Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy would have done the same and by extension even Jinnah

 

[ziaulislam]

@El Sidd who had the last laugh when Pakistan surrendered in the largest surrender after ww2

Probably no other nation has been humiliated this much since then

Why?
Because we killed, imprisoned (as per Pakistani offical report) and if we believe some(mujeeb claims) raped people with impunity

If you are banya/indian, never mind you can laugh..you earned it

 

[PakAl]

Najam sethi was saying 12 districts in kpk are controlled by ttp but its not on media how good is this news?

PTI ally Fazlur Rehman, the ex number 1 enemy and head of PDM which toppled Imran Khan also said in certain districts the police at night vacate the police stations and hide in local population houses. If this is true where are 10,000s of agencies, army, FC, the police job is not to fight terrorism, its the job of the army, FC, special forces and agencies.

 

[El Sidd]

@El Sidd who had the last laugh when Pakistan surrendered in the largest surrender after ww2

Probably no other nation has been humiliated this much since then

Since when do Pakistanis feel shame or humiliation?

Civilians of that territory decided that Pakistan movement and objective resolution do not represent them as wholly as the Bengali identity or Bengali language.

If any other group of people feel the same way and can impose a war and get away with it, so be it. It's an ideological country, people are entitled to reject ideologies and accept new ones.

 

[Meengla]

This is everyday normal flotsam and jetsam of Pakistani politics. Imran Khan was working within the system as it exists. He was and is still operating inside the Constitution, unlike the feral uncivilized fauj.

I know you Imran supporters try to downplay the Establishment's role in Imran's rise to the PM ship, which itself is deceptive narrative, but you don't think Imran tossing away a Constitutional requirement of a No Confidence Motion was not a violation of Pakistan's Constitution? It was the same National Assembly which had recognized Imran as the PM of Pakistan--and mind you, many of those MNAs were forced to support Imran's PM ship. Your Messiah Khan, who is the party head for decades and who has not even bothered to groom a successor is quite possibly the most undemocratic, arrogant leader Pakistan has ever seen.

Khan's personal failings are his business. He may have expressed regret and may have reformed, you don't know the whole story. His daughter and others in his life love him and maintain contact with him, who are YOU to pass judgement sitting thousands of miles away ?

I am a Pakistani citizen--not that that is requirement to post in this forum. I could also ask you: Who are YOU to defend a scumbag from thousands of miles away a scumbag who disowns his own biological daughter? In the same sentence where he disowned his daughter, he brought up 'Sadiq and Amin' as qualifications for be a good ruler. I am sure you know what those words mean. He is giving himself the credentials of those lofty titles as he lies through his teeth! And you still don't see a moral issue with such a scumbag as him?! Nobody would have killed him for the illegitimate child: People make mistakes and good people own their mistakes. But if he lies about something as simple as paternity then what else he lies about?

He is a damned scumbag and you diverting to the military your blames won't change Imran is a scumbag and an enemy of Pakistan: A bad reincarnation of Mujib ur Rehman!

 

[Be dazzled]

I know you Imran supporters try to downplay the Establishment's role in Imran's rise to the PM ship, which itself is deceptive narrative, but you don't think Imran tossing away a Constitutional requirement of a No Confidence Motion was not a violation of Pakistan's Constitution? It was the same National Assembly which had recognized Imran as the PM of Pakistan--and mind you, many of those MNAs were forced to support Imran's PM ship. Your Messiah Khan, who is the party head for decades and who has not even bothered to groom a successor is quite possibly the most undemocratic, arrogant leader Pakistan has ever seen.



I am a Pakistani citizen--not that that is requirement to post in this forum. I could also ask you: Who are YOU to defend a scumbag from thousands of miles away a scumbag who disowns his own biological daughter? In the same sentence where he disowned his daughter, he brought up 'Sadiq and Amin' as qualifications for be a good ruler. I am sure you know what those words mean. He is giving himself the credentials of those lofty titles as he lies through his teeth! And you still don't see a moral issue with such a scumbag as him?! Nobody would have killed him for the illegitimate child: People make mistakes and good people own their mistakes. But if he lies about something as simple as paternity then what else he lies about?

He is a damned scumbag and you diverting to the military your blames won't change Imran is a scumbag and an enemy of Pakistan: A bad reincarnation of Mujib ur Rehman!

We don't do politics - DG ISPR.

Just believe the man for once.

 

[Be dazzled]

Mujeeb had India's support, is PTI willing to go this low to get in power?

They were in power fair and square. The question is how low will your illegitimate FM stoop for power?