Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[ziaulislam]

Muhammad Ali Jinnah, his sister and Hussain Sarwardey are now similar to likes of Sohail Afridi, Achakzai and Imran Khan? What is this delusion?

100% that elected representative were put in jail by your heroes

Yes they mujeeb ur rehman and imran khan exactly share rhe same thing 1000%

 

[I*R*A]

100% that elected representative were put in jail by your heroes

Yes they mujeeb ur rehman and imran khan exactly share rhe same thing 1000%

Stop being dishonest. There is no resemblance between Fatima Jinnah and Sohail Afridi.

The task was simple, crackdown on the criminal and terrorist elements in the province, bring back peace, strengthen the law and order situation .. but no, long marches somehow took priority over everything else.

 

[flyingorca]

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To be honest, she used her brother's influence to get votes.

Their importance ended after Pakistan was created. Mr Jinnah could not even convince his own COS who was British gora to step in Kashmir issue or use his power to veto British influence on Pakistan military at the time of independence. In a hypothetical scenario, where both lived for another 100+ years, how would they have tackled issues Pakistan would face? India as Pakistan's enemy was pretty much inherited over Kashmir dispute. Even if Bangladeshis rights were fulfilled, how would they tackled India's influence over east Pakistan which was geographically cut off from west Pak.
And then if they were alive to face WOT, how would they have handled US consequences if Pakistan did not participate? You think speeches would have worked against WOT new world order plans?

I do not want to get banned again so I will stop questioning things that should not be questioned and accept its all because of Fauj.

 

[flyingorca]

100% that elected representative were put in jail by your heroes

Yes they mujeeb ur rehman and imran khan exactly share rhe same thing 1000%

Mujeeb had India's support, is PTI willing to go this low to get in power?

 

[Master Chief]

Pakistani awaam is mature enough for democracy.

I would not feel personally aggrieved by the inference to the contrary. The vast majority of nations who profess democratic institutions and checks and balances and rule of law simply state these things for show. In reality, they are electoral autocracies, at best. Moreover, several of these nations "impose" representative democracy on developing nations as a means of control. We are often led to believe that autocracy is easily controlled by malevolent 3rd parties from afar - that is only true if the dictator plays ball (Saddam, Gaddafi, Noriega, Chavez, Castro, Maduro....etc etc). Meanwhile, democracy can be manipulated at a fraction of the cost.

One only needs to glance over the eastern border, or at USA/UK, to understand all the above. The oligarchs reign supreme in most "democracies". India, rather amateurishly, thinks it can nation build in Pakistan by backing the same Khan they used to call Taliban Khan hardly a year or so ago. Indians posting here do make me laugh - they think we are stupid and they themselves are the Bollywood heroes that the third world needs.

Then there's the one nation that actually tells it how it is - China, giving a big red middle finger to so called representative democracy and proud of it. Ancient Greece would be equally proud. One of the few things Khan was right about (without him really realising why he was right) was that the Chinese example is the one to follow.

 

[Forsvaret]

Their importance ended after Pakistan was created.

Could the same be said about the CIVILIAN politicians on the other side of the fence (India) who were faced with similar if not worse problems than thinking only about the Kashmir issue? How many times Indian military generals thought of getting rid of their own politicians or impose martial law in the country — but still chose NOT to do so?

 

[Forsvaret]

Mujeeb had India's support, is PTI willing to go this low to get in power?

Military establishment always has US support to remain in power indefinitely with brut force & crushing dissent. And your point is?

 

[Forsvaret]

Then there's the one nation that actually tells it how it is - China, giving a big red middle finger to so called representative democracy and proud of it.

China is not a West-like representative democracy. But it's a "democracy" within a one-party communist state. This unique political system actually works & delivers for the majority of Chinese citizens — unlike the current "system" of military establishment in Pakistan.