Egyptian Armed Forces

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

This is crazy, bro! I can't figure out the way he danced around the topic if they're proceeding with the entire Italian mega deal that was offered in what, 2021-2022 I think it was...? or just the 24 Typhoons out of that package? It sounds like just the jets for now, right?

It gets even more complicated when he mentioned the package included the 4 to 6 Bergamini FREMM frigates of which the EN has already acquired 2. So they already dipped into the package complicating the whole thing haha.

Then there's the 20 Aermacchi M-346 trainers, the 20 OPV patrol ships and the military satellite. That's a huge package and hard to tell if they're cherry-picking the Typhoons for now since they already cherry-picked the 2 Bergaminis out of the package or are they going for the gusto and filling the whole order? He did say we should expect the EAF to receive 24 Typhoons sometime soon so at least we know that much, but he still drives me crazy.

They probably would've fulfilled the entire deal originally in 2022 if the Julio Regeni case wasn't floating over everyone's head causing friction and grinding at the Italian government from the Italian people. Most don't know this, but that was the major obstacle to this mega deal not materializing the first time it was announced and is now being revisited.

Not sure what an Italian, university of Cambridge PHD student was doing in Egypt studying its labor union laws?! Pretty bizarre but maybe it was research for his PHD degree, and he was at the wrong place and the wrong time. My guess is he stuck his nose into places it didn't belong and suffered the unfortunate consequences. Still doesn't justify the guy getting murdered. They said he was captured by Egyptian security services probably at the behest of Al Mukhabarat and we all know those guys don't **** around and you want to avoid them at all cost lol. But apparently they found his body bruised & battered showing undeniable signs of torture. His family made a huge deal out of his death in the Italian press (and who can blame them?) and that is the crux of the delay and complication to this mega Italian arms deal.

So according to this article published in September of 2022, the EAF is insisting on not only a NON-DOWNGRADED EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON, BUT ALSO THE METEOR BVR MISSILE must also be part of the weapons package deal for the aircraft.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi is committed to acquiring the Eurofighter Typhoon from Italy to further diversify and modernize the Egyptian Air Force (EAF), despite the recent procurement of Rafale jets. The Typhoon sale is part of a $12 billion arms mega-deal between Italy and Egypt, which also includes warships. While pursuing the deal, Cairo is anxiously trying to prevent the U.S. from sabotaging the Typhoon talks to maintain Israel's Qualitative Military Edge (QME). Egypt wants an “un-downgraded” Typhoon and the Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM).

So that's good to know that not only is Egypt fighting the US' ridiculous insistence on all advanced weapons to Egypt be downgraded in order to protect the zionist, but fighting for the inclusion of the Meteor. This is good.

So it should basically look like this:

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Not a fan of the dark-colored radome, but if that's the way it needs to be for the Captor-E AESA radar to properly beam in & out, so be it. Ain't gonna complain about form over such a critical function. Let's hope the CAPTOR-E is now standard with the EFT2000 which begs the question, would these be Tranche-3 or 4 Typhoons? What do you think, SC?

The other cool thing he mentioned is that it will be the first time an air force will deploy two different delta/canard platforms simultaneously. Between the Rafale and the Typhoon, there's some serious technological power. Even both aircraft have incredibly advance EW & defensive suites in the Rafale's SPECTRA and the Typhoon's Praetorian DASS. And being that both of these aircraft have such advanced avionics technology, it would be great to see the EAF step it up and start taking advantage of all this technology such as the EFT's JHMCS. Let's see the lucky guys who end up flying these machines use these things.

The new Typhoon integrated helmet is insane. If they're getting all these goodies, might as well use them to their full potential, right?

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This is pretty much the new thing beyond helmet mounted cuing system where it's actually Helmet Mounted Symbology System. Just like the F-35 helmet, it basically allows the pilot to see right through the body of the aircraft, giving him a vital advantage when it comes to split-second decision-making. EAF Rafale pilots should have these too. If you're going to spend $12 billion of such a massive weapons package, why not divert some of those tremendous funds to something that will allow the users to extract full capabilities of those weapons? Seems like a no-brainer to me. The EAF MiG-29 pilots get to use the monocle with their helmets to better assist in firing the R-73 during high boresight shots.

How the HMSS works: Pilot can now look at multiple targets, lock-on to them, and then, by voice-command, prioritize them.

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Cockpit ergonomics look good, Maybe the ejection chord is a bit too small lol. Putting it in that position forced them to make it small but eeesh, can a gloved hand even make 4 fingers into that loop?

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That should be confirmation for the meteor missile deal for the rafales too, let’s hope the typhoons are tranche 4. I feel like they will be, also, what does it take to work in the Egyptian weapons industry???

 

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

Also if the smx ocean deal goes through, you’d be able to convert the conventional propulsion system with a nuclear system. And I thought egypts debts were 160 billion?

 

[GoMig-21]

That should be confirmation for the meteor missile deal for the rafales too, let’s hope the typhoons are tranche 4. I feel like they will be, also, what does it take to work in the Egyptian weapons industry???

Yep, the Italians have absolutely no reason to support babying the zionist entity since it does them absolutely no good to do so. If anything, it's counter-productive for them and more likely is burdensome. So why support it? The only reason is obviously to keep any of the other members of the 4-party conglomerate from denying the deal. For example, Germany or the UK might be the one or two that might succumb to zionist pressure and not sign off on the deal. And this is a huge problem with a weapons system like this which is basically owned by 4 countries of whom each have a say in the matter.

Then you have the clout factor. Who has the most clout and the largest stake among the conglomerate? I would say the UK, followed by Germany then Italy and Spain. So if either of the top two have an issue, it will get stuck like the rest of all the deals have throughout the years. We can only hope that with all the killing and murdering the zionist have inflicted on Palestinian women & children in the past 5 months has had some profound impact on these countries to the point where they're not going to lose out on lucrative military contracts because of the need to appease the zionist fear and bossing of the world to follow their interests. It's disgustingly pathetic and time to see an end to that.

The original 24 EAF Rafales were purchased back in 2014/2015 where they were considered F3 and not F3R yet. The R was a software upgrade that primarily made them capable of firing the Meteor missile. They might not have received that upgrade despite rumors at the time that they would. Or maybe even did get the upgrade but decided to wait for the missiles on the 2nd order. It's possible since we saw the next contract in early 2016 for Qatar where they were F3R standard and were equipped with Meteors.

So we need to keep a close eye particularly on this next batch of Rafales more so than a new order of Typhoons. The latter obviously with what we know now regarding Sisi's & the EAF's request will not be accepted without the missiles.

Subed to a former RAF F-4 Phantom pilot's X account who posts pretty cool pics and info, and this was one as of today. This is the list of active fighters within this list of 20 Air Forces. Some interesting placements.



Funny when I read some of the comments and they're bitching about how it's false for sure because how is it possible that Egypt is better prepared than the RAF. Out of all those countries there like Syria? North Korea? What about Iran? No disrespect to any of those but everyone and their mothers would know there's a difference there and Egypt was the only one that was mentioned in that manner? Just really telling of the disrespect that is out there. Accompanied by major lack of knowledge too, of course. Khawalaat m3araseen.

Also if the smx ocean deal goes through, you’d be able to convert the conventional propulsion system with a nuclear system. And I thought egypts debts were 160 billion?

Interesting you mentioned that. Can you expound on the propulsion concept? I'm really curious as I don't know much about it, but I always thought it would be much easier the other way around.

As far as debts, I pretty much have been following it for many years now and it's substantial and only growing. Sisi really needs to put on the brakes, but I think he sees so much potential investments with huge returns in the next decade + that he thinks it should balance out nicely. Let's hope that's the case and it's easy to see why when you sift through the list of projects and new developments happening in country on @The SC 's thread on Egypt's Industrial Projects.

Here's the graph & source detailing the debts and as of 2024, it's a little over $400 billion. It's a neat source as it's updating all the time.

Egypt: National debt from 2018 to 2028​

(in billion U.S. dollars)​

 

[The SC]

Yep, the Italians have absolutely no reason to support babying the zionist entity since it does them absolutely no good to do so. If anything, it's counter-productive for them and more likely is burdensome. So why support it? The only reason is obviously to keep any of the other members of the 4-party conglomerate from denying the deal. For example, Germany or the UK might be the one or two that might succumb to zionist pressure and not sign off on the deal. And this is a huge problem with a weapons system like this which is basically owned by 4 countries of whom each have a say in the matter.

Then you have the clout factor. Who has the most clout and the largest stake among the conglomerate? I would say the UK, followed by Germany then Italy and Spain. So if either of the top two have an issue, it will get stuck like the rest of all the deals have throughout the years. We can only hope that with all the killing and murdering the zionist have inflicted on Palestinian women & children in the past 5 months has had some profound impact on these countries to the point where they're not going to lose out on lucrative military contracts because of the need to appease the zionist fear and bossing of the world to follow their interests. It's disgustingly pathetic and time to see an end to that.

The original 24 EAF Rafales were purchased back in 2014/2015 where they were considered F3 and not F3R yet. The R was a software upgrade that primarily made them capable of firing the Meteor missile. They might not have received that upgrade despite rumors at the time that they would. Or maybe even did get the upgrade but decided to wait for the missiles on the 2nd order. It's possible since we saw the next contract in early 2016 for Qatar where they were F3R standard and were equipped with Meteors.

So we need to keep a close eye particularly on this next batch of Rafales more so than a new order of Typhoons. The latter obviously with what we know now regarding Sisi's & the EAF's request will not be accepted without the missiles.

Subed to a former RAF F-4 Phantom pilot's X account who posts pretty cool pics and info, and this was one as of today. This is the list of active fighters within this list of 20 Air Forces. Some interesting placements.

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Funny when I read some of the comments and they're bitching about how it's false for sure because how is it possible that Egypt is better prepared than the RAF. Out of all those countries there like Syria? North Korea? What about Iran? No disrespect to any of those but everyone and their mothers would know there's a difference there and Egypt was the only one that was mentioned in that manner? Just really telling of the disrespect that is out there. Accompanied by major lack of knowledge too, of course. Khawalaat m3araseen.



Interesting you mentioned that. Can you expound on the propulsion concept? I'm really curious as I don't know much about it, but I always thought it would be much easier the other way around.

As far as debts, I pretty much have been following it for many years now and it's substantial and only growing. Sisi really needs to put on the brakes, but I think he sees so much potential investments with huge returns in the next decade + that he thinks it should balance out nicely. Let's hope that's the case and it's easy to see why when you sift through the list of projects and new developments happening in country on @The SC 's thread on Egypt's Industrial Projects.

Here's the graph & source detailing the debts and as of 2024, it's a little over $400 billion. It's a neat source as it's updating all the time.

Egypt: National debt from 2018 to 2028​

(in billion U.S. dollars)​

I guess Ramses is referring to Brazil who bought some Scorpene subs and ordered one f them much bigger than the rest.. they are installing a nuclear reactor developed locally on it..

https://www.france24.com/en/america...zil-develop-nuclear-technology-for-submarines

 

[GoMig-21]

Good stuff, SC, bro. Thank you.

On another positive news, considering all the naval frigates in the Egyptian Navy that carry the Aster 15 & 30 SAMs, this event provides a comforting success element to those naval platforms and their effectiveness. Although I'm confident the EN had their own testing performed.

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[GoMig-21]

Since we don't have the awesome collection of pics from the old thread, let's load up. Some of the conventional EA hardware.

Egyptian Navy.
The Egyptian fleet owns 316 naval units, making it number 7 in the world. The Egyptian military fleet includes two helicopter carriers, 9 frigates, 7 corvettes, 8 submarines, 50 patrol ships, and 23 minesweepers.

Mistral ENS Gamal Abdel Nasser (L1010)


Ka-52 Nile Crocodiles on board one of the Mistrals. Could very well be Ka-52 Katrans or naval modified Ka-52s as they're regularly used at sea.

Notice the Fast Attack Ambassador MKs are docked side-by-side & lines tied to cleats yet bow thrusters are active (most likely stern thrusters as well) most likely to protect from heavy ship wakes from passing ships that would slam them into each other and the dock.







The 4th Type 209 sub. Hopefully the Scorpene deal goes through since these have limited capabilities for the EN.







Gowind, Ambassador MK & Oliver Hazzard Perry ENS Alexandria.

Too bad they were only able to purchase one of these bad boys because of how expensive they are plus the level of maintenance required. FREMM Aquitaine Tayhia Misr.



One of two current ENS Bergamini multipurpose FREMM frigate ENS Al-Galala (FFG-1002). Slated to be a total of 4 possibly 6 with the mega Italian arms deal. Great looking warship with the radar sphere mast.

 

[GoMig-21]

Four MEKO A200 from Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems.
Al Aziz was delivered in October of 2022 only 38 months after initial contract signing.





Bergamini FREMM

4 Gowind Corvettes hopefully more to be built in Egypt.

Pohang Class Corvette

 

[GoMig-21]

EAF Rafale, MiG-29M/M2 & Mirage 2000.

 

[GoMig-21]

More MiG-29M/M2

 

[GoMig-21]

Buddy-buddy A2A refueling.

 

[GoMig-21]

And of course, the greatest heartbreak in the EAF in the past 50 years! The teasing of the best 4th generation fighter ordered, built and ready to be delivered only to be towed back into its factory hangars and not allowed to be handed over to the Egyptian Air Force thanks to the US' dictating the lousy zionist swine's wishes. The zionists are so scared of the Egyptian Air Force that they go way out of their way to block high-end military assets from being transferred to Egypt. The biggest example so far is the vaunted Su-35S deal that the EAF signed with Sukhoi & Russia in 2019 for the acquisition of 24-30 fighters with associated weapons. From what we know, even the pilots were already trained in Russia and all there was left was the delivery when it was abruptly halted by the Pompeo and the lousy scuzz bucket dictatorial regime of the orange baboon Donal Trump. Hopefully the new recipient of these gorgeous killing machines will be Iran so that there is some kind of justice served for the Jews perpetrating such a crime. Watch them cut their nose to spite their face.

What a beauty and lethal killing machine this is & would've been.

 

[GoMig-21]

Look at this bag of crap news, fellas. SC bro & Ramses basha, what do you guys think of this pile of dung? We just can't catch a friggin break, man. Between the AIM-120 XYZ and this Meteor shenanigan, it's getting out of control where the missile is dictating the course of which fighter will be awarded billions of $ to grace the EAF.

So they'll obviously go ahead with the 2nd order of 30 Rafales to bring the total number of aircraft up to 54, but now they're somewhat forced to shift to the Typhoon and not necessarily for the aircraft itself, but to gain access to the Meteor missile because apparently Dassault and the French have taken a khazoo2 up the dark hole from the Jews. Who the frig else has to jump through hoops like this just to get into the high end BVR club? Is this the most egregiously ridiculous state of affairs or is it just me? And if you read this article, what kind of pussification have the French and Germans gone through where they've become so subservient to the Jews' demands and bend over cheeks spread wide open like this? A7a at the shamefulness of that awful visual! Someone needs to bitch-slap them across the face to get them to wake the frig up because if there is any truth to this article, the DE-masculinization of the French has truly reached a new low. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting. And this is recent, too, BTW. Article dated this past February 2+/- months ago which explains the recent push towards the Eurofighter Typhoon. All I can say is Allah bless President Sisi that he sticks to his guns like the other article claimed he's insisting on the Meteor as part of the Typhoon package deal and if they don't agree to it, then cancel the entire thing immediately. No way should the EAF accept a $12 billion deal for the 24 Eurofighter Typhoons, 4 Bergamini frigates, 20 OPVs, 20 Aermacchi M-346 trainers and the one military satellite without the Meteor missile being a part of the Typhoon's weapon's package. AND it should even be contingent on being included in the new batch of 30 Rafales as well. It's now or never no more. And it also appears the F-15 is still very much in the picture. Not music to Ramses' ears I'm sure!

WARNING: This article will PISS YOU OFF! lol

To Ensure Israel’s “Edge,” Egypt Denied Access to Meteor BVR, AMRAAM Missiles​

Last updated Feb 4, 2024

Egypt is reportedly in negotiations with Italy and the United States to acquire Eurofighter Typhoon and F-15 fighter jets. However, if the negotiations are successful, Cairo will not receive a "complete package" without the inclusion of air-to-air guided missiles, specifically the "Meteor BVR" and "AIM-120 AMRAAM." This is justified on the grounds of preserving Israel's military superiority and qualitative edge.​

(DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) — In the past two or three years, Egypt and Italy have engaged in negotiations for the acquisition of various types of weapons, including up to 24 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets valued at US$3 billion (RM13.5 billion) issued by a consortium of four European countries.

The Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets are developed by a consortium of companies from the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, and Germany.

In addition to the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets, Egypt is reportedly on the verge of obtaining approval to acquire F-15 fighter jets from the United States, thus fulfilling its 40-year-long aspiration to possess the aircraft.

If the presence of the Eurofighter Typhoon and F-15 is confirmed through the signing of contracts, both fighter jets will join the Egyptian Air Force, which already possesses 54 Rafale fighter jets from Dassault Aviation, France, and various other fighter aircraft.

While Egypt’s efforts to acquire the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets are likely to face minimal challenges, especially after Germany agreed to sell these fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, Cairo is expected not to receive a “full package.”

Egyptian Rafale.
Similar to the acquisition of Rafale fighter jets from France, Egypt is anticipated to face the same fate if it opts for the Eurofighter Typhoon.

If Egypt chooses the Eurofighter Typhoon, it is unlikely to be provided with a “full package,” including Beyond Visual Range (BVR) air-to-air guided missiles like the “Meteor” and other strategic weaponry.

This is to maintain the Qualitative Military Edge (QME) held by Israel.

Although Israel may not object to the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Egypt, there are indications that Israel may veto any sale of the “Meteor BVR” air-to-air guided missiles to Egypt. MAY VETO? LMAO!!!

A similar situation occurred when Egypt purchased Rafale fighter jets, where Israel opposed any French efforts to equip the sold fighter jets to Cairo with the Meteor guided missiles. "Opposed"? LMAO! Who the hell do these scum sucking hogs think they are?!



As of now, the Egyptian Air Force’s Rafale fighter jets remain without the Meteor BVR guided missiles due to Israel’s objections, which aims to preserve its military superiority over Cairo. LOLZO!

Reports suggest that Cairo continues to press France to provide the Meteor BVR air-to-air guided missiles. I'm starting to really change my mind about the French! Could they really be this pussyfied?

Israel is reportedly concerned about the fate of its fighter jets, especially the F-16 and F-15, if Egyptian fighter jets equipped with the Meteor BVR engage in armed conflict between the two nations.

For Israel’s fifth-generation F-35 “Adir” fighter jets, encountering fighter jets equipped with the Meteor BVR guided missiles may not pose significant challenges.

In 2022, the highest-ranking official of the United States Central Command (CENTCOM) in the Middle East, General Frank McKenzie, announced the U.S. intention to supply F-15 fighter jets to Egypt. Yeah that guy is a putz. They better not agree on F-15s without AMRAAMs.

"AMRAAM"

"Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet with “Meteor”

Reports in 2022 stated that Israel supported the sale of F-15s to Egypt, but the situation may have changed given the tense relations between the two neighboring countries due to armed conflict between Tel Aviv and Palestine. Not our fault that they're a bunch of murderous scum sleezy slimy demons!?

Although the United States “ended” Cairo’s 40-year wait for F-15 fighter jets, observers agree that Washington is unlikely to provide a full package for these aircraft, including the AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air guided missiles to Egypt. Then the US can keep them thank you very much.

As usual, the United States cites opposition from Israel and the need to maintain Israel’s military superiority over its neighboring country as reasons for its reluctance to sell AIM-120 AMRAAM guided missiles to Egypt. – DSA Shameful!

Source.

 

[The SC]

Look at this bag of crap news, fellas. SC bro & Ramses basha, what do you guys think of this pile of dung? We just can't catch a friggin break, man. Between the AIM-120 XYZ and this Meteor shenanigan, it's getting out of control where the missile is dictating the course of which fighter will be awarded billions of $ to grace the EAF.

So they'll obviously go ahead with the 2nd order of 30 Rafales to bring the total number of aircraft up to 54, but now they're somewhat forced to shift to the Typhoon and not necessarily for the aircraft itself, but to gain access to the Meteor missile because apparently Dassault and the French have taken a khazoo2 up the dark hole from the Jews. Who the frig else has to jump through hoops like this just to get into the high end BVR club? Is this the most egregiously ridiculous state of affairs or is it just me? And if you read this article, what kind of pussification have the French and Germans gone through where they've become so subservient to the Jews' demands and bend over cheeks spread wide open like this? A7a at the shamefulness of that awful visual! Someone needs to bitch-slap them across the face to get them to wake the frig up because if there is any truth to this article, the DE-masculinization of the French has truly reached a new low. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting. And this is recent, too, BTW. Article dated this past February 2+/- months ago which explains the recent push towards the Eurofighter Typhoon. All I can say is Allah bless President Sisi that he sticks to his guns like the other article claimed he's insisting on the Meteor as part of the Typhoon package deal and if they don't agree to it, then cancel the entire thing immediately. No way should the EAF accept a $12 billion deal for the 24 Eurofighter Typhoons, 4 Bergamini frigates, 20 OPVs, 20 Aermacchi M-346 trainers and the one military satellite without the Meteor missile being a part of the Typhoon's weapon's package. AND it should even be contingent on being included in the new batch of 30 Rafales as well. It's now or never no more. And it also appears the F-15 is still very much in the picture. Not music to Ramses' ears I'm sure!

WARNING: This article will PISS YOU OFF! lol

To Ensure Israel’s “Edge,” Egypt Denied Access to Meteor BVR, AMRAAM Missiles​

Last updated Feb 4, 2024

Egypt is reportedly in negotiations with Italy and the United States to acquire Eurofighter Typhoon and F-15 fighter jets. However, if the negotiations are successful, Cairo will not receive a "complete package" without the inclusion of air-to-air guided missiles, specifically the "Meteor BVR" and "AIM-120 AMRAAM." This is justified on the grounds of preserving Israel's military superiority and qualitative edge.​

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(DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) — In the past two or three years, Egypt and Italy have engaged in negotiations for the acquisition of various types of weapons, including up to 24 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets valued at US$3 billion (RM13.5 billion) issued by a consortium of four European countries.

The Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets are developed by a consortium of companies from the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, and Germany.

In addition to the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets, Egypt is reportedly on the verge of obtaining approval to acquire F-15 fighter jets from the United States, thus fulfilling its 40-year-long aspiration to possess the aircraft.

If the presence of the Eurofighter Typhoon and F-15 is confirmed through the signing of contracts, both fighter jets will join the Egyptian Air Force, which already possesses 54 Rafale fighter jets from Dassault Aviation, France, and various other fighter aircraft.

While Egypt’s efforts to acquire the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets are likely to face minimal challenges, especially after Germany agreed to sell these fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, Cairo is expected not to receive a “full package.”
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Egyptian Rafale.
Similar to the acquisition of Rafale fighter jets from France, Egypt is anticipated to face the same fate if it opts for the Eurofighter Typhoon.

If Egypt chooses the Eurofighter Typhoon, it is unlikely to be provided with a “full package,” including Beyond Visual Range (BVR) air-to-air guided missiles like the “Meteor” and other strategic weaponry.

This is to maintain the Qualitative Military Edge (QME) held by Israel.

Although Israel may not object to the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Egypt, there are indications that Israel may veto any sale of the “Meteor BVR” air-to-air guided missiles to Egypt. MAY VETO? LMAO!!!

A similar situation occurred when Egypt purchased Rafale fighter jets, where Israel opposed any French efforts to equip the sold fighter jets to Cairo with the Meteor guided missiles. "Opposed"? LMAO! Who the hell do these scum sucking hogs think they are?!

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As of now, the Egyptian Air Force’s Rafale fighter jets remain without the Meteor BVR guided missiles due to Israel’s objections, which aims to preserve its military superiority over Cairo. LOLZO!

Reports suggest that Cairo continues to press France to provide the Meteor BVR air-to-air guided missiles. I'm starting to really change my mind about the French! Could they really be this pussyfied?

Israel is reportedly concerned about the fate of its fighter jets, especially the F-16 and F-15, if Egyptian fighter jets equipped with the Meteor BVR engage in armed conflict between the two nations.

For Israel’s fifth-generation F-35 “Adir” fighter jets, encountering fighter jets equipped with the Meteor BVR guided missiles may not pose significant challenges.

In 2022, the highest-ranking official of the United States Central Command (CENTCOM) in the Middle East, General Frank McKenzie, announced the U.S. intention to supply F-15 fighter jets to Egypt. Yeah that guy is a putz. They better not agree on F-15s without AMRAAMs.

"AMRAAM"

"Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet with “Meteor”

Reports in 2022 stated that Israel supported the sale of F-15s to Egypt, but the situation may have changed given the tense relations between the two neighboring countries due to armed conflict between Tel Aviv and Palestine. Not our fault that they're a bunch of murderous scum sleezy slimy demons!?

Although the United States “ended” Cairo’s 40-year wait for F-15 fighter jets, observers agree that Washington is unlikely to provide a full package for these aircraft, including the AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air guided missiles to Egypt. Then the US can keep them thank you very much.

As usual, the United States cites opposition from Israel and the need to maintain Israel’s military superiority over its neighboring country as reasons for its reluctance to sell AIM-120 AMRAAM guided missiles to Egypt. – DSA Shameful!

Source.

The article makes no sense at all..from the title up to the end.. these guys take the Egyptians for stupid or naive..for sure Egypt won't buy the F-15 without the AMRAMs..that is one.. the second is that France approved the Meteor even in the first deal.. before the upgrades allowing it to be operational on the F3R.. The Italians too have promised it with the Typhoon ..all this is official from the most serious sources.. But let's say the French were forced not to deliver it to Egypt (an impossibility due to the contracts..but just let's assume!)..Then France and for sure will provide Egypt with the source code to install whatever BVR it wants.. like the Chinese PL-15 for example..with 160 km range..

There are always solutions Bro..

 

[GoMig-21]

The article makes no sense at all..from the title up to the end.. these guys take the Egyptians for stupid or naive..for sure Egypt won't buy the F-15 without the AMRAMs..that is one.. the second is that France approved the Meteor even in the first deal.. before the upgrades allowing it to be operational on the F3R.. The Italians too have promised it with the Typhoon ..all this is official from the most serious sources.. But let's say the French were forced not to deliver it to Egypt (an impossibility due to the contracts..but just let's assume!)..Then France and for sure will provide Egypt with the source code to install whatever BVR it wants.. like the Chinese PL-15 for example..with 160 km range..

There are always solutions Bro..

The SC with his steadfast positive outlook, always! What an admirable quality ya sa3at el beh! Honestly, it's an example for all to learn.

I think the emotional aspect of the frustration is what gets me all the time, it never fails. As much as that article sounds like it's full of crap, the mere fact that the Jews have left such an indomitable impression on the EAF's ability to acquire top of the line weapons -- and specifically A2A missiles -- has had a permanent effect on the likes of us, particularly myself as you can clearly see and it also leaves that mark on any journalistic endeavor, just like it did in this article. It's almost a given that anytime someone writes about the EAF in any media across the world, it's a certainty that the topic will be brought up, intentionally or by default and that really, really, really SUCKS! It's like branding on cattle!

When the history of the EAF's F-16s being AMRAAM-less is front and center of any discussion or publication related to the EAF, and we see Egypt go out and be the first country to get the Rafale only to be immediately upped by Qatar which does get the missile without a shred of obstacles, followed by India and Greece etc., it's inevitable that it would gnaw at one's craw! On top of all that, the reason is absurd and vomit-inducing. To think how pathetic these supplying countries are to be so subservient to the Jews' demands AS WELL as have such mistrust of Egyptian honor and integrity is ultimately insulting to no end! It's akin to adding insult to grave injury.

I really hope you're right and that there is no truth to that news, especially with the revamping of the F-15 possibility! And they make it sound like the EAF is simply happy enough that its 40-year-old request to acquire the Eagle is finally coming to fruition that it would settle for just the aircraft without the AIM-120 missiles. Pathetic.

Just for that, I not only hope Sisi tells them to go to hell and not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out, but to say it and do it emphatically! Seeing the EAF get 30 new Rafales, 24 new Typhoons and 24 new F-15 Eagles without Meteors or AIM-120s knowing they could've acquired the Su-35S with the R-77-1 & R-37M without any restrictions would be devastating beyond comprehension.

 

[The SC]

The SC with his steadfast positive outlook, always! What an admirable quality ya sa3at el beh! Honestly, it's an example for all to learn.

I think the emotional aspect of the frustration is what gets me all the time, it never fails. As much as that article sounds like it's full of crap, the mere fact that the Jews have left such an indomitable impression on the EAF's ability to acquire top of the line weapons -- and specifically A2A missiles -- has had a permanent effect on the likes of us, particularly myself as you can clearly see and it also leaves that mark on any journalistic endeavor, just like it did in this article. It's almost a given that anytime someone writes about the EAF in any media across the world, it's a certainty that the topic will be brought up, intentionally or by default and that really, really, really SUCKS! It's like branding on cattle!

When the history of the EAF's F-16s being AMRAAM-less is front and center of any discussion or publication related to the EAF, and we see Egypt go out and be the first country to get the Rafale only to be immediately upped by Qatar which does get the missile without a shred of obstacles, followed by India and Greece etc., it's inevitable that it would gnaw at one's craw! On top of all that, the reason is absurd and vomit-inducing. To think how pathetic these supplying countries are to be so subservient to the Jews' demands AS WELL as have such mistrust of Egyptian honor and integrity is ultimately insulting to no end! It's akin to adding insult to grave injury.

I really hope you're right and that there is no truth to that news, especially with the revamping of the F-15 possibility! And they make it sound like the EAF is simply happy enough that its 40-year-old request to acquire the Eagle is finally coming to fruition that it would settle for just the aircraft without the AIM-120 missiles. Pathetic.

Just for that, I not only hope Sisi tells them to go to hell and not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out, but to say it and do it emphatically! Seeing the EAF get 30 new Rafales, 24 new Typhoons and 24 new F-15 Eagles without Meteors or AIM-120s knowing they could've acquired the Su-35S with the R-77-1 & R-37M without any restrictions would be devastating beyond comprehension.

Indeed bro..some journalists just knit information together and make it sensational for the sake of their job..I never take your comments for negative but positive in your own way of depicting the news or analyzing the subject..You have your own style and I like it..