BrahMos: Greek Experts Pitch Indo-Russian Supersonic Cruise Missile To Checkmate S-400 Armed Turkey

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Recently, the voices in Greek media have gotten stronger to procure a “truly strategic weapon from India” – the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile – to counter Turkey’s nefarious designs in the Aegean Sea and the Sea of Crete.

Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Greece was the first by an Indian prime minister in four decades since Indira Gandhi’s visit to the country in 1983. The Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis reciprocated the visit to India in February 2024.

The Greek media has been making a strong case for acquiring the BrahMos anti-ship missile to bolster the country’s naval power in the entire geographical range between the Aegean, Crete, and Cyprus.

The Greece City Times, in an article, contended: “Equipping the Eastern Aegean islands (which Turkey considers as its own and illegally occupied by the Greek state) with Brahmos land-sea arrays, combined with their long range and a short distance from the Asia Minor coastline, would mean minimal reaction time on the radars of Turkish naval ships, especially in conditions of missile saturation from mass firings from Greek Brahmos coastal defense arrays deployed on the Eastern Aegean islands.”

Two Greek academics have also stirred debate around the acquisition. Emmanuel Marios Economou and Nikos K. Kyriazis of the University of Thessaly advocate for acquiring the BrahMos cruise missile system developed jointly by India and Russia.

Economou and Kyriazis argue that the deployment of BrahMos missiles on Greece’s eastern Aegean islands would create a “denial and prohibition of maritime access” for the Turkish Navy.

The academics assert that BrahMos offers a cost-effective solution compared to traditional large naval vessels, which they argue are increasingly vulnerable to advanced missile systems. They estimate that a single BrahMos missile will cost around $3.5 million, making a package of 150 missiles with launchers and radars much cheaper than a comparable naval force.

The BrahMos was developed from Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia (NPOM) P-800 Oniks family of cruise missiles, through a joint venture between NPOM and India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), named BrahMos Aerospace.

The first test launch was conducted on June 12, 2001, at the Chandipur range in Odisha, India, and subsequently, the missiles began production at enterprises in both countries.

There has been great interest from foreign countries in BrahMos – and there are regulations already in place.

An in-principle agreement was reached on the potential export to third nations back in 2016. Potential users may include the Philippines, South Korea, Algeria, Greece, Malaysia, Thailand, Egypt, Singapore, Venezuela, the UAE, Chile, South Africa and Vietnam.

BrahMos is technically a ramjet-powered supersonic cruise missile with a solid propellant booster that can be launched from land-based canisters, submarines, ships, and now aircraft. It travels at speed of Mach 3.5 but is being upgraded to travel faster than Mach 5.0. for the hypersonic variant.

One of its special features is its ability to fly extremely close to the ground to avoid missile defense systems. In fact, during the terminal phase, the missile can fly as low as 5-10 meters to the ground. The missile relies on inertial guidance, advanced satellite navigation systems or active radar seeker in the final phase.

So far, India has inked a deal to export BrahMos to the Philippines, but several countries have expressed interest. Should the deal with Greece materialize, the deployment will be interesting to follow as Turkey has purchased the Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile system.
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Countering Turkish Provocation With BrahMos

The news outlet notes that the system can target enemy warships up to 300 kilometers from the coast, thus covering a very large geographical area. It asserts that the presence of BrahMos missiles in the region would make the work for the Greek Armada easier.

“By extension, such a scenario would create conditions for the Turkish Navy to deny and prohibit maritime access to the Aegean archipelago or secure access with very high losses, reducing the total size of the Turkish Navy’s surface units. Thus, the task of the Greek war fleet in defense of our critical islands would be made easier,” it notes.

Another assertion that the article makes is that the BrahMos packs more destructive punch than subsonic missiles such as the US’ notorious Tomahawk cruise missile or the Ukrainian naval Neptune missile that sank the Russian fleet’s flagship, the famous missile cruiser Moskva in Snake Island in April 2022.

The “Blue Homeland” is an irredentist concept that asserts Turkey’s claim over vast sections of the Aegean and Mediterranean seas. This concept encompasses Greek and Cypriot maritime borders as well as hydrocarbon deposits, all of which Turkey seeks to assert claim over. The term “Blue Homeland” was first coined in 2006 by senior officers of the Turkish Navy.

Even though there had been some thawing between the two countries following deadly earthquakes in 2023, recently, Turkey has been upping the ante. The “Blue Homeland” concept extends Turkey’s territorial aspirations beyond its existing borders.

Initially a fringe idea among anti-Western elements within the Turkish Navy, it has now gained popularity as a nationalist aspiration championed by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
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At the beginning of 2024, the Turkish President referred to the “Blue Homeland” while speaking at a celebratory event in Ankara on the 97th anniversary of the establishment of the Turkish intelligence agency MIT; he made clear the intentions of the Turkish high strategy, stating, among other things: “Our strong will to protect our Blue Homeland from the Aegean to the Black Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean…”

The “Blue Homeland” concept has the potential to disrupt the NATO alliance in the future.

In another incident in January 2024, the Republic of Cyprus issued a NAVTEX (MA23-017/24) announcing the conduct of maritime surveys in a survey area very close to where the potential Greek Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) meets the demarcated Cyprus EEZ.

Turkey responded within a few hours with its announcement that it was staking claim over the area and asserting that the competent Turkish authorities must coordinate all regional research activities.

In such a scenario, the Greek article suggests: “The Indian-made Greek BrahMos could become the nightmare of the Turkish navy, but also of the treacherous Turkish designs of the “Blue Homeland” and the non-existent basis of the international law of the sea, Turkish-Libyan pseudo-“pact” delimiting maritime zones!”

India has a strained relationship with Turkey. Ankara’s constant needling of New Delhi over Kashmir issues can nudge India closer to Greece, and BrahMos in the Aegean Sea might soon become a reality.
 
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@MMM-E what's your point of view in this development that maybe Greece will get Brahmos from India?
 
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This locally developed seeker has been integrated in all the recent version of BrahMos. DRDO/ECIL seeker is a dual imaging and monopulse RF seeker.

It has X band SAR based imaging capability and monopulse based homing capability.

This allows the Indian seeker the ability to discriminate between targets in a highly cluttered environment both at land and sea.
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Why are you converting this thread into a Turkish brochure thread. This is a Brahmos brochure thread.
Sorry bro I want to have a opinions of this specific poster but you're right on this, Sorry about this 😐
 
@MMM-E what's your point of view in this development that maybe Greece will get Brahmos from India?

Better go and worry about tiny Greece

Turkiye has dozens of game changer weapons from Ballistic Missiles to Cruise Missiles from long range Guided munitions to Kamikaze Drones to destroy Greek Fighter Jets , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Air Defense Systems and Greek Warships in a day

including cost effective IHA-230 supersonic Missile to hit Greek PATRIOT AD Systems
BRAHMOS Missile is so expensive ..... but IHA-230 Missile is cost effective

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btw Do you think Turkiye has only S400s ?
Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense Umbrella to counter all threats

Low and Medium altitude Air Defense Systems to protect critical targets from enemy Cruise Missiles

-- KORKUR 35 mm SPAAG
-- SUNGUR AD System
-- GURZ hybrid AD System
-- HISAR-A low altitude AD System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude AD System
-- GOKDEMIR medium altitude AD System

also Turkish Navy has 250+ ESSM SAMs to intercept even supersonic Missiles

The best in EUROPE
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HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System with speed of mach 3.5 to intercept even supersonic Missiles
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Land dominating the sea and air , defense overcoming offense

Turkiye building land-based A2/AD systems to support their Air and Naval Forces for a good reason

SIPER high altitude Air Defense System

Range : block1 : 100+ km ...... block2 : 150-250 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : mach 4
Radar : 450+ km ERALP AESA Radar
Network centric warfare capability with link16 data link
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range of 250+ km with booster
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S-400 long-range air/anti-ballistic missile System
Range : 48N6E3 : 240 km ...... 40N6E : 380 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : 48N6E3 : mach 5.9 ...... 40N6E : mach 3,5
Radar : 600 km BIG BIRD

36 Launchers with 192 Missiles
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Greece is nothing without USA-France protection ....and never can match with Turkiye one on one

Greeks should stop dreaming and return the real world
 
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This thing is dangerous.
Brahmose+Storm Shadow Combo can create real problems for Turks
 
This thing is dangerous.
Brahmose+Storm Shadow Combo can create real problems for Turks

Turkiye has the best fire power in NATO after USA

Turkiye has 20+ different Missiles to destroy all military targets in Greece
Greece does not have strategic depth for self defense

and so easy to take Greek Islands from 2-10-30 km away from Turkish mainland

BRAHMOS Missile can not protect Greek Islands in a large scale of war
Greece can not do anything except self defense to ptotect its Islands from the Turks
 
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The Greek media has been making a strong case for acquiring the BrahMos anti-ship missile to bolster the country’s naval power in the entire geographical range between the Aegean, Crete, and Cyprus.

Turkish Navy has over 250+ ESSM Missiles to intercept even supersonic Missiles like BRAHMOS

with speed of mach4+
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and HISAR-D enter service to intercept anti-ship Missiles
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India will pay a heavy price for this hostile altitude towards Turkiye

Azerbaijan easly can match with Armenia
Turkiye easly can match with Greece


Better worry about your India who will face with upcoming Pakistan Air Force
( 2 different 5th gen Fighter Jets Chinese J-31 and Turkish KAAN )

We will give a lesson to India to know its place
real strategic weapon ... KAAN 5th gen stealth Fighter Jet
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Better go and worry about tiny Greece

Turkiye has dozens of game changer weapons from Ballistic Missiles to Cruise Missiles from long range Guided munitions to Kamikaze Drones to destroy Greek Fighter Jets , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Air Defense Systems and Greek Warships in a day

including cost effective IHA-230 supersonic Missile to hit Greek PATRIOT AD Systems
BRAHMOS Missile is so expensive ..... but IHA-230 Missile is cost effective

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btw Do you think Turkiye has only S400s ?
Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense Umbrella to counter all threats

Low and Medium altitude Air Defense Systems to protect critical targets from enemy Cruise Missiles

-- KORKUR 35 mm SPAAG
-- SUNGUR AD System
-- GURZ hybrid AD System
-- HISAR-A low altitude AD System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude AD System
-- GOKDEMIR medium altitude AD System

also Turkish Navy has 250+ ESSM SAMs to intercept even supersonic Missiles

The best in EUROPE
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HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System with speed of mach 3.5 to intercept even supersonic Missiles
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Land dominating the sea and air , defense overcoming offense

Turkiye building land-based A2/AD systems to support their Air and Naval Forces for a good reason

SIPER high altitude Air Defense System

Range : block1 : 100+ km ...... block2 : 150-250 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : mach 4
Radar : 450+ km ERALP AESA Radar
Network centric warfare capability with link16 data link
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range of 250+ km with booster
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S-400 long-range air/anti-ballistic missile System
Range : 48N6E3 : 240 km ...... 40N6E : 380 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : 48N6E3 : mach 5.9 ...... 40N6E : mach 3,5
Radar : 600 km BIG BIRD

36 Launchers with 192 Missiles
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Greece is nothing without USA-France protection ....and never can match with Turkiye one on one

Greeks should stop dreaming and return the real world

Lol here we go again, I did a mistake to tag you, you have no brain cells in your head, Brahmos is a formidable weapons and threats to any modern navy
 
Turkish Navy has over 250+ ESSM Missiles to intercept even supersonic Missiles like BRAHMOS

with speed of mach4+
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and HISAR-D enter service to intercept anti-ship Missiles
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Saturation attacks will make more difficult to intercept, firing supersonic and subsonic anti-ship Cruise Missiles from various angles will make interceptions more complicated
 
Lol here we go again, I did a mistake to tag you, you have no brain cells in your head, Brahmos is a formidable weapons and threats to any modern navy

What a troll team who lacks brain cells in their heads
Nobody says thar BRAHMOS is not a formidable weapon

but Turkiye has 20+ diferent Missiles to turn Greek Navy into scrap of metal in A day

better go and worry for Greece
Turkish Navy can match with BRAHMOS ...

but Greek Navy never can match with great Turkish fire power which is the best in NATO after USA
 

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