‘Pakistan’s poverty rate higher than India, B’desh’

[Feroze]

True if it was in 2016. But extreme poverty fell sharply in India when people got access to brick mortar housing, piped water connection, electricity, and sanitation, all these rapidly expanded in the last ten years at an extremely high rate. A lot of people still live in the old 2000s when quality of life seemed better at your end.

It is hard to be extremely poor in India, unless you live in a cutoff region or in Tribes.

And you think Pakistan has not improved significantly since 2016?

I would build Pakistan with my own hands if I could.

 

[Lulldapull]

You can't pay me enough to live in this biohazard

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Thanks to my forefathers for catching the right train.

Ustaad G bilkul!

Ye kaalont key fungus goes in your lungs aur phir ye kabhi nahi nikalti bahar and all our sassti/ jaali locally produced antibiotics fail.

Thousands are dying from respiratory illnesses daily and nobody gives a damn!

Covid killed 5 million indians as a conservative estimate, like nuke bumm dropped on them no?

Ye to haal hae India ka.

 

[retaxis]

islamic golden age was during time of dictatorship

if west didn't demonise dictatorship, many countries would do better with a dictator that is held accountable by the people and if he fucks up gets lynched by the people.

Instead now days global south countries have to live with endless corruption with no accountability at all and no punishments.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

And you think Pakistan has not improved significantly since 2016?

I would build Pakistan with my own hands if I could.

Not really though. The numbers speak for itself. Your national poverty rate actually increased from 20 something % to 29%> with a a real GDP per capita growth of just 0.9%.

But good luck building it, maybe you become a politician or military. One of the two ways you can actually do something.

 

[Feroze]

Not really though. The numbers speak for itself. Your national poverty rate actually increased from 20 something % to 29%> with a a real GDP per capita growth of just 0.9%.

But good luck building it, maybe you become a politician or military. One of the two ways you can actually do something.

No, you have just come to malign Pakistan on a Pakistani forum.

Nice try though. Pakistan is getting better by the day.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

No, you have just come to malign Pakistan on a Pakistani forum.

Nice try though. Pakistan is getting better by the day.

Why do I need to do it, when the past comments from Pakistanis themselves are all showing you the reality.

 

[Feroze]

Not really though. The numbers speak for itself. Your national poverty rate actually increased from 20 something % to 29%> with a a real GDP per capita growth of just 0.9%.

But good luck building it, maybe you become a politician or military. One of the two ways you can actually do something.

Pakistan's Nominal GDP has improved from 390 Billion Dollars to 460 Billion Dollars in recent times.

Again, nice try Indi/ot.

We are about half the Nominal GDP of Taiwan.


Yes there are some issues to iron out in Pakistan, but we will fix Pakistan Insh'Allah.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Pakistan's Nominal GDP has improved from 390 Billion Dollars to 460 Billion Dollars in recent times.

Again, nice try Indi/ot.

We are about half the Nominal GDP of Taiwan.


Yes there are some issues to iron out in Pakistan, but we will fix Pakistan Insh'Allah.

What a tone deaf argument

 

[Oscar]

What a tone deaf argument

An unfortunate result of the failure of Pakistan's economy for the middle class specifically is that traditionally, the middle class has served as a vessel to both support those below the poverty line and also help pull some out of it.

With the middle class dwindling (or leaving) the result is that support for the poor is also dwindling since the state itself is practically non-existent for the poor either for lack of funds or stolen funds.

The problem is that if your system is basically being run for the elite by the elite - they tend to live in their bubble and assume that prosperity for them is equivalent to prosperity for all with negatives usually "whining" and that things are actually fine because the malls are full.

The fallacy behind this comes from assuming that an increasing population is equivalent to the percentage distribution of the population.

So if for e.g. there are greater numbers of the elite or upper middle class(in their distribution) across a larger swath of area that does not automatically translate to a great percentage overall. The same way access to smartphones does not automatically mean positive impacts on society due to quality of content and unmoderated access to it.

 

[Feroze]

An unfortunate result of the failure of Pakistan's economy for the middle class specifically is that traditionally, the middle class has served as a vessel to both support those below the poverty line and also help pull some out of it.

With the middle class dwindling (or leaving) the result is that support for the poor is also dwindling since the state itself is practically non-existent for the poor either for lack of funds or stolen funds.

The problem is that if your system is basically being run for the elite by the elite - they tend to live in their bubble and assume that prosperity for them is equivalent to prosperity for all with negatives usually "whining" and that things are actually fine because the malls are full.

The fallacy behind this comes from assuming that an increasing population is equivalent to the percentage distribution of the population.

So if for e.g. there are greater numbers of the elite or upper middle class(in their distribution) across a larger swath of area that does not automatically translate to a great percentage overall. The same way access to smartphones does not automatically mean positive impacts on society due to quality of content and unmoderated access to it.

You are right about that Sir. The Elites in the hierarchy needs to care about other people in the social strata in the country.

Also with people leaving the country for greener pastures in the West doesn't help either.

The good news is that our Nominal GDP Economy has improved to $460 Billion. No doubt about that.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

If Pakistan continues on its current path, the next decade could witness one of the largest waves of emigration in its history. Millions of young Pakistanis may leave their homeland, not because they want to, but because they feel they have no choice. People do not abandon their families, culture, and country by choice; they do so when opportunities disappear and hope for a better future fades and they get tired of fake promises from government and establishment.
Today, a large segment of the population already struggles with poverty, rising inflation, unemployment, and declining purchasing power. For many families, making ends meet has become a daily challenge. Unless meaningful economic reforms and institutional accountability are introduced, these hardships are likely to deepen.
The tragedy is that Pakistan is a country blessed with immense human talent, natural resources, and strategic importance. Yet decades of poor governance, political instability, and institutional failures have prevented it from reaching its true potential. Instead of creating opportunities that encourage people to stay and build their future at home, the system is increasingly pushing its brightest minds to seek opportunities abroad.
If these trends continue unchecked, Pakistan risks becoming a nation burdened by mounting debt, slower economic growth, widespread poverty, and a growing brain drain.
The real question is not how many people will leave, but how many talented young people will still believe they have a future in Pakistan.

 

[Feroze]

If Pakistan continues on its current path, the next decade could witness one of the largest waves of emigration in its history. Millions of young Pakistanis may leave their homeland, not because they want to, but because they feel they have no choice. People do not abandon their families, culture, and country by choice; they do so when opportunities disappear and hope for a better future fades and they get tired of fake promises from government and establishment.
Today, a large segment of the population already struggles with poverty, rising inflation, unemployment, and declining purchasing power. For many families, making ends meet has become a daily challenge. Unless meaningful economic reforms and institutional accountability are introduced, these hardships are likely to deepen.
The tragedy is that Pakistan is a country blessed with immense human talent, natural resources, and strategic importance. Yet decades of poor governance, political instability, and institutional failures have prevented it from reaching its true potential. Instead of creating opportunities that encourage people to stay and build their future at home, the system is increasingly pushing its brightest minds to seek opportunities abroad.
If these trends continue unchecked, Pakistan risks becoming a nation burdened by mounting debt, slower economic growth, widespread poverty, and a growing brain drain.
The real question is not how many people will leave, but how many talented young people will still believe they have a future in Pakistan.

That is so true bro. We need people to return to Pakistan to build it.

 

[Owaiz]

Bangladesh may have a larger economy than Pakistan.

But at least Pakistan is not a least developed country like Bangladesh.

Pakistan is a much better country than Bangladesh.

We have a powerful military and more human resources of 260 million people.

Bangladesh has become the richest LDC and they will graduating out of LDC status next month since they no longer fulfill the criteria that a LDC should meet. The quality of life of the average Bangladeshi has improved significantly relative to that of the average West Pakistani since 1971.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

That is so true bro. We need people to return to Pakistan to build it.

Do you agree ?

 

[Oscar]

That is so true bro. We need people to return to Pakistan to build it.

What for?

What is the motivation for them sacrificing better lives to come back to Pakistan?
What is waiting for them with open arms?

Stability? No
You have choices between a corrupt elite - that have an organized military acting as their enforcement branch or charlatan's shouting slogans who lead the weak minded into aimless crusades for their own ego.

Security? No
That same military cannot even protect itself because of plain resources but is good to push and oppress people around for this elite or even on its own.

Belonging? No
From the minute you are born in Pakistan you are subjected to ethnic, religious , class and performance led hatred. There is NOTHING in the country that drives a sense of belonging or welcome whether you come out of a womb or land at the airport.
The only message you get is "Oh, let me see how I can make your life miserable today because my own is".

So no thank you - plenty of other suckers for charlatans to ask for a "ghar wapsi".