Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

Oh! My!

Even @Persian Gulf is feeling positive.

Then Trump and US must really be in a pickle.

As I (and small number of others) have been saying, the outcome of this war was decided in the first week.

The only thing to be decided is how much blood and treasure will be shed. That’s entirely upto Trump’s thirst for blood.

What I mean by outcome:

1. No colour revolution like the ones we saw in south Asian Muslim countries recently. Because their military leaders are CIA agents.

2. US retreat from Iran’s neighbourhood

3. Iranian sovereign control over SoH

4. Iran’s nuclear strategy will be decided by itself

5. Iran forges a path away from the petro dollar.

Every Iranian fan supporter wherther inside or outside Irán should be moderately optimistic.

Even if Irán didn´t play masterfully their estrategy during the war, the war is NOT OVER. And people frequently forget that war dynamics goes and come with successes and defeats, mistakes and achievements.

Some members (we know all who they are) are extremely frustrated with this strategy, but it is working.

1.- Iranian nuclear program remains active and completely out of western control (IMO it is the main success).

2.- Missile program is expanding in two dimensions (in numbers and in bases). This is another inquestionable success.

3.- Iran is managing and controlling the lethal effects of oil restrictions—not only in the Strait of Hormuz but also in the Bab el-Mandeb—with surprising effectiveness, and there are suspicions that it is benefiting from the problems Zelensky has created for Russia. To the point that Irán is without any doubt making money with oil and tolls. That is the third success.

But we must be realistic; this strategy has given rise to a number of concerning effects that require attention, lest they undermine those tactical victories.

1º.- Iranian inflation it is an unavoidable effect from the total economic war and siege over iranian population.

2º.- Baluchestan. Irán seems to be managing much better kurdish infiltration and problems, but not the same success with Baluchestan.

3º.- Arab/turkish coalition is growing because of success of this strategy of Irán in oil restrictions and saudi frustration in the war. This coalition could eventually stop the houthi successes if not disabled, and this neutralization should be done diplomatically and economically (the more success of houthies, the more reluctance of Turkey and Egypt to be involved in this war), because a kinetic direct strategy would push all region in a total war.

This war recall me the Africa campaign. Churchill was mad at Montgomery because he was reluctant to a direct confrontation to Rommel, and he just attacked when he had a tactical advantage, logistically, geografically and in numbers.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Every Iranian fan supporter wherther inside or outside Irán should be moderately optimistic.

Even if Irán didn´t play masterfully their estrategy during the war, the war is NOT OVER. And people frequently forget that war dynamics goes and come with successes and defeats, mistakes and achievements.

Some members (we know all who they are) are extremely frustrated with this strategy, but it is working.

1.- Iranian nuclear program remains active and completely out of western control (IMO it is the main success).

2.- Missile program is expanding in two dimensions (in numbers and in bases). This is another inquestionable success.

3.- Iran is managing and controlling the lethal effects of oil restrictions—not only in the Strait of Hormuz but also in the Bab el-Mandeb—with surprising effectiveness, and there are suspicions that it is benefiting from the problems Zelensky has created for Russia. To the point that Irán is without any doubt making money with oil and tolls. That is the third success.

But we must be realistic; this strategy has given rise to a number of concerning effects that require attention, lest they undermine those tactical victories.

1º.- Iranian inflation it is an unavoidable effect from the total economic war and siege over iranian population.

2º.- Baluchestan. Irán seems to be managing much better kurdish infiltration and problems, but not the same success with Baluchestan.

3º.- Arab/turkish coalition is growing because of success of this strategy of Irán in oil restrictions and saudi frustration in the war. This coalition could eventually stop the houthi successes if not disabled, and this neutralization should be done diplomatically and economically (the more success of houthies, the more reluctance of Turkey and Egypt to be involved in this war), because a kinetic direct strategy would push all region in a total war.

This war recall me the Africa campaign. Churchill was mad at Montgomery because he was reluctant to a direct confrontation to Rommel, and he just attacked when he had a tactical advantage, logistically, geografically and in numbers.

Out of this ashes will rise two civilisational powers:

1. Turkey will retake control of Arabs. They have proven over and over they aren’t capable

2. Iran will retake influence over historic Persia

Egypt could have had sway over North Africa - but it’s military are pawns of the CIA.

 

[Arash]

Spying devices to get rid off

 

[r3alist]

Uhh actually you did. Remember the sandal wearing bearded cavemen in Afghanistan who were the blue eyed boys of ISI from 1994 to 2021

They took on the Soviets.

 

[UKBengali]

And - will Iran destroy Israel electricity infrastructure in return, or will that be considered haram? The fact that they are talking so openly about doing this is because they have not been deterred by Iran's approach to the war so far against Israel and its ability to impose a real cost on Israel. Now, is that limitation technical, or it is policy? If it is policy, then why ? If the war restarts, and Israel does make good on its threats, will Iran take also down Israel's electrical and energy infrastructure in return, that is the question.

Iran will lack the precision to take down bridges, but it should be able to hit oil refineries, power stations generators as these are very large targets relative to the slender profile of a bridge.

Iran has already shown it does respond to attacks on its infrastructure.

As otherwise why would not the Zionist entity have hit oil refineries and power stations in Iran already?

In June 2025 it took out Haifa oil refinery and this year it did at least manage to do some damage to the same oil refinery again.

This time the interceptor stock is really low, that after 48-72 hours Zio-US would be almost depleted and Iran in recent exercises has hinted they have thousands of missiles in stock.

 

[r3alist]

He's just not goin admit that his life depends upon Zionist IMF/ WB loans.

He's just not going to agree to this!

Its his UK passport talking here otherwise he's just goin be mum.

Its a sad situation man.

The whole over response started from misinformation he still believes

Us is operating in freedom of sea navigation


But look at the over reaction

Eventually people will get fed up of you are either against us or with us, grievance projection.

 

[Master Chief]

Uhh actually you did. Remember the sandal wearing bearded cavemen in Afghanistan who were the blue eyed boys of ISI from 1994 to 2021 ?

I shan't labour the point as I always have respect for your reasoned and in depth perspectives, but in this case you are mistaken, as you are comparing apples and oranges. These particular sandal wearers had just defeated the combined Soviet Union's and Najibullah's military forces. Pakistani involvement was also direct in this particular conflict, as I am sure I don't need to remind you of countless PAF actions against both the Afghan AND Soviet enemies during this period. It was a war in which the modernised post-Sabre era PAF really cut its teeth against the red enemy. The mistakes made with regards to Talibs stem from their fundamental nature as Afghans (and their intransigence on the Durand line), not from their military capabilities, which far exceeded anything the Khat chewers could ever dream of realising.

 

[Flotilla]

Out of this ashes will rise two civilisational powers:

1. Turkey will retake control of Arabs. They have proven over and over they aren’t capable

2. Iran will retake influence over historic Persia

Egypt could have had sway over North Africa - but it’s military are pawns of the CIA.

I do not believe that Turkey will regain a dominant position in the Arab world.

However, it is clear that it has acted with maturity; it has avoided direct involvement in the war and has made a point of condemning Israel’s stance.

At the very least, it has surpassed Saudi Arabia in terms of leadership within the Muslim world. That is indisputable—at least from an Arab perspective.

 

[Homajon]

 

[Homajon]

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Immortals]

My guess: some type of licensed production of SU-30/35 family. Could be simple kit assembly or more comprehensive ToT.

 

[r3alist]

Out of this ashes will rise two civilisational powers:

1. Turkey will retake control of Arabs. They have proven over and over they aren’t capable

2. Iran will retake influence over historic Persia

Egypt could have had sway over North Africa - but it’s military are pawns of the CIA.

contradicts one another massively

But ok, carry on

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]