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[I*R*A]

Good catch... but you should have made the correction...

CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup

CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup

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It still wasn't mosad.

iranians let their shah rule them for next 26 years.

Same can be said about Khomeini that he was helped by French.

My primary question was irrespective of whether it was Reza Shah, Mossadegh or Khomeini, did iran in any way participate in direct wars with israel?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

did iran in any way participate in direct wars with israel?

Iran is fighting a direct war with zion. Did we miss something?
The above post completed the correction on your previous post.

And, this is a war that zion wants as designed... neocons wrote books... People were propped up. If you're narrative cannot handle it... then expand your horizon.
The 12 day war last year was primarily between Iran and zion... the second war started with US participation from the onset



They had to start the war because zion wanted it...
They attacked from Gulf and enhanced protection for zion at the cost of Gulf statelets.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It still wasn't mosad.

Did you even bother reading?

iranians let their shah rule them for next 26 years.

Iranians let?
There are statelets in gulf.. with one named after a clan... do the rest allow these clans to rule them? Besides Shah's rule was maintained by SAVAK

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Same can be said about Khomeini that he was helped by French.

As I mentioned earlier, between a communist or Clerical takeover of Iran... US was willing to entertain Clerics instead of giving mideast to Soviet Union.

 

[I*R*A]

Iran is fighting a direct war with zion. Did we miss something?

iran is not fighting any war with zion. Symbolic missile strikes with well advanced notice is not a war. However, iran and its proxies have fully helped zion to weaken all immediate threats and destabilize those countries, Syria, Libya, Iraq .. all have iranian involvement.

Which countries suffered and are still being attacked because of the most recent conflict? May be you need to widen your horizon and not just get fooled that easily.

iran has been complicit in helping india with its reach to Pakistani insurgents, iran employed Pakistanis for its proxy war in Syria.

Countries fighting a direct war with zion, US and Nato look like Afghanistan, Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Syria with millions killed, cities destroyed and not like iran.

 

[I*R*A]

As I mentioned earlier, between a communist or Clerical takeover of Iran... US was willing to entertain Clerics instead of giving mideast to Soviet Union.

Yes I read it.

Bold underlined, I will rest my case. You can continue to hold iranians holier than any other, but they are not. They are a C team of zion.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

iran is not fighting any war with zion. Symbolic missile strikes with well advanced notice is not a war. However, iran and its proxies have fully helped zion to weaken all immediate threats and destabilize those countries, Syria, Libya, Iraq .. all have iranian involvement.

The planes fly over the states you named to bomb Iran.

Which countries suffered and are still being attacked because of the most recent conflict? May be you need to widen your horizon and not just get fooled that easily.

So the attempt to regime change Iran is fake?

No one died in Iran... they just wanted to show a poster online?

iran has been complicit in helping india with its reach to Pakistani insurgents, iran employed Pakistanis for its proxy war in Syria.

Where is India now?

But Pakistan sure seems to make good with how Indians burn for any goodwill?

Countries fighting a direct war with zion, US and Nato look like Afghanistan, Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Syria with millions killed, cities destroyed and not like iran.

So you're saying Iran isn't destroyed yet?
You know the threat of destroying Gulf oil infrastructure is keeping Iranian infrastructure intact...

While American jets flew and used GCC... the rest of the destroyed states provide open air to zion... Syria, Jordan and Iraq...
And your nemesis Iran doesn't even possess an air force.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Yes I read it.

Bold underlined, I will rest my case. You can continue to hold iranians holier than any other, but they are not. They are a C team of zion.

Below the clown kings?
Rest your case... did you even make one?
Your frustration is only that nothing is fitting in your narrow mold.

 

[I*R*A]

Below the clown kings?
Rest your case... did you even make one?
Your frustration is only that nothing is fitting in your narrow mold.

I am not even understanding one bit of your confused statements.

You engage me, post a reference and try prove that iranian governments or shah was installed. Your rebuttal points to CIA's and MI6's involvement, but that was never my contention, I had said mosad was not part of it, it could not have been at that time.

Then you go on into how US was okay with installing iranian mullahs rather than having Soviet influence in middle east. Which indirectly supports my assertion that iranian ayatullahs are a C team of zion and are in power because they have been blessed by US and play their part to benefit and support their causes. Plenty of evidence for that for the ones who haven't taken ayatullah's bayt.

You are trying to prove that somehow iran is fighting a holy war against zion. To which I gave you real life examples of countries and the state they are in, only because zion felt they were a threat to them. If iran was fighting a holy war against zion it would have been destroyed by now. iranians should be grateful and remain so for many coming decades that Pakistanis and Saudi with Turks showed some maturity and prevented the total destruction of iran. Saudis showed significant restraint and patience in not retaliating to iran's shameless provocations.

You have no answers and wisdom just your misguided loyalty to iran, why because it has successfully fooled you into believing the utter nonsense that they are saviors of Islamic world and champions of the helpless Muslims.

PS: I am not one bit frustrated. I am clear in my understanding of persian aims, their intrigues. Unlike you, I do question why would persians want to support a region that was first conquered by a Caliph, whom they curse, hate and abuse the most.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

I am not even understanding one bit of your confused statements.

You engage me, post a reference and try prove that iranian governments or shah was installed. Your rebuttal points to CIA's and MI6's involvement, but that was never my contention, I had said mosad was not part of it, it could not have been at that time.

Then you go on into how US was okay with installing iranian mullahs rather than having Soviet influence in middle east. Which indirectly supports my assertion that iranian ayatullahs are a C team of zion and are in power because they have been blessed by US and play their part to benefit and support their causes. Plenty of evidence for that for the ones who haven't taken ayatullah's bayt.

You are trying to prove that somehow iran is fighting a holy war against zion. To which I gave you real life examples of countries and the state they are in, only because zion felt they were a threat to them. If iran was fighting a holy war against zion it would have been destroyed by now. iranians should be grateful and remain so for many coming decades that Pakistanis and Saudi with Turks showed some maturity and prevented the total destruction of iran. Saudis showed significant restraint and patience in not retaliating to iran's shameless provocations.

You have no answers and wisdom just your misguided loyalty to iran, why because it has successfully fooled you into believing the utter nonsense that they are saviors of Islamic world and champions of the helpless Muslims.

PS: I am not one bit frustrated. I am clear in my understanding of persian aims, their intrigues. Unlike you, I do question why would persians want to support a region that was first conquered by a Caliph, whom they curse, hate and abuse the most.

saudis can't even defeat malnourished Yemenis, how do they want to defeat Iran (although they supported uS attacks against Iran)? saudis should be grateful israel and uS are supporting them else Yemen would easily liberate riyadh, and no, al-bakstan and al-turkey can't save ale-saud.

 

[I*R*A]

saudis can't even defeat malnourished Yemenis, how do they want to defeat Iran (although they supported uS attacks against Iran)? saudis should be grateful israel and uS are supporting them else Yemen would easily liberate riyadh, and no, al-bakstan and al-turkey can't save ale-saud.

Thank you for being honest.

Well to state a historical fact, people from that same region have conquered you once in the past, at that time you used to be an empire, a superpower of the sorts and the conquerors were from a desert (lizard eaters according to you). So I won't discount that it cannot happen again.

Yep, understandable that if you do not find majority people practicing persian religion in a country, you call your aggression and designs against that country as you / your proxies trying to liberate it.

A person who calls Pakistan Al-Bakstan, points to how deeply that person is obsessed with Arabic and Arabs.

 

[Master Chief]

Below the clown kings?
Rest your case... did you even make one?
Your frustration is only that nothing is fitting in your narrow mold.

He did make a point. You also, perhaps without realising, made the same point. You now refuse to acknowledge it.

Where do you think Khomeini was even hiding until he returned to Iran on an AIR FRANCE flight?

Yes, the West gambled on shia clerics to fight off the Soviets, but the Shah wasn't doing that bad a job at fighting against then himself. There was a second use for the clerics - to keep Arabs and Persians fighting each other instead of Israel.

This tactic should not come as a shock. Tel Aviv created Hamas to fight against the PLO.

I often berate these regional actors for falling for Israel's plot but it is equally plausible that some are happy to willingly play along.

 

[Hussain]

it is equally plausible that some are happy to willingly play along.

Exactly, it helps their agenda

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Thank you for being honest.

Well to state a historical fact, people from that same region have conquered you once in the past, at that time you used to be an empire, a superpower of the sorts and the conquerors were from a desert (lizard eaters according to you). So I won't discount that it cannot happen again.

Yep, understandable that if you do not find majority people practicing persian religion in a country, you call your aggression and designs against that country as you / your proxies trying to liberate it.

A person who calls Pakistan Al-Bakstan, points to how deeply that person is obsessed with Arabic and Arabs.

You lack knowledge (context) of history, but that seems more to be part of al-muzzlim selective way of learning history.

Iran was in civil war (changed 12 kings in 4 years), fought Romans for 30 years and Justinian plague had devastated Iran already few years before Arabs invaded.

They were thrown out and the Sunni Abbasid Caliphate became puppets of Persian Shia Buyids and later puppets of Turkics.

In 930, Shia Ismaili Qarmatian Persian king Abu Tahir al-Jannabi conquered Mecca, sacked it and set it on fire and stole the black stone, desecrated zamzam with 20000 corpses of hajis and broke the stone in 7 pieces. Abu Tahir shouted out to the crowd, mockingly referencing Surah Al-Fil: "Where are the Ababil birds? Where are the stones of clay?

He brought the stone back voluntarily and threw it into a mosque in Kufa with a letter: "By command we took it, and by command we have brought it back."

Thanks to Iran, which is the wall of Asia, you can say you're a al-punjabi, baluchi or pathan or sindhi or whatever you're today, else you would be al-arbi and act as al-arbi, worshipping abu Barron and doing sword dance no?

 

[I*R*A]

Iran was in civil war (changed 12 kings in 4 years), fought Romans for 30 years and Justinian plague had devastated Iran already few years before Arabs invaded.

But still you were conquered. You can hide behind all excuses you want to but you could never reverse it, no matter how much you tried. The most Bukharis and Tirmizis of persian origin could do is construct a parallel religion, give it an Islamic touch and help go back to rebuild the empire.

They were thrown out and the Sunni Abbasid Caliphate became puppets of Persian Shia Buyids and later puppets of Turkics.

I never argued they did not. Abbasid were the biggest enablers and facilitators of persian designs.

In 930, Shia Ismaili Qarmatian Persian king Abu Tahir al-Jannabi conquered Mecca, sacked it and set it on fire and stole the black stone, desecrated zamzam with 20000 corpses of hajis and broke the stone in 7 pieces, brought it back voluntarily and threw it into a mosque in Kufa with a letter: "By command we took it, and by command we have brought it back."

That is what I am trying to tell the deluded Pakistani supporters of persia.

In addition to above There is no harm in accepting that persian hands are bloodied with blood of Umar, Osman, Ali, Hassan and Hussain. How else the division could have achieved. Plus you would the same today if you could.

Why hide behind proxies and yemenis and what not ... declare it in open and just try to achieve it.

 

[Haz]

You lack knowledge (context) of history, but that seems more to be part of al-muzzlim selective way of learning history.

Iran was in civil war (changed 12 kings in 4 years), fought Romans for 30 years and Justinian plague had devastated Iran already few years before Arabs invaded.

They were thrown out and the Sunni Abbasid Caliphate became puppets of Persian Shia Buyids and later puppets of Turkics.

In 930, Shia Ismaili Qarmatian Persian king Abu Tahir al-Jannabi conquered Mecca, sacked it and set it on fire and stole the black stone, desecrated zamzam with 20000 corpses of hajis and broke the stone in 7 pieces, brought it back voluntarily and threw it into a mosque in Kufa with a letter: "By command we took it, and by command we have brought it back."

Thanks to Iran, which is the wall of Asia, you can say you're a Punjabi, Baluchi or Pathan or whatever you're today, else you would be al-arbi and act as al-arbi, worshipping abu Barron no?

And as a result of their evil, this Bahraini sect has been extinguished completely from this world and exists only in the dust bins of history.