Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

An indian in iranian disguise, kindly write original other than zionist chatgpt.

I've been familiar with Pakistani politics since 2010. I remember quite well how much you guys loved the Taliban and boasted about your help to bring them to power in 1990s. Are you going to deny that?

As a Pakistani, I actually agree your assessment that Pakistan should stay the F away from mediating this conflict. Aside from stopping bloodshed, this mediation doesn't really serve any other purpose as far Pak's interests are concerned. We wanted this conflict to cease because a) due to geography and b) to stop the bloodshed (anyone with morals agree with this anyway).

We tried, and gave our best but it didn't work. It wasn't going to work because Zios and Iran are not even on the same book (never mind page). They're too far apart and unfortunately I don't see this conflict coming to a conclusion anytime soon.

I do not blame Pakistan for the failure of the MoU honestly. I completely blame it on our stupid politicians. The US does not want a deal because they think they can break Iran with economic sanctions and cycles of war + peace.

We are in this current situation because we're ruled by idiots, not because of a failed MoU that Pakistan mediated.

 

[IceCold]

Please change your name to IceBrain.

And you to an absolute moron.

 

[IceCold]

His mediation is not welcomed by Iran anymore. His presence in Iran wastes our efforts.

So why welcome him? Iran should make its position absolutely clear on the matter.
On another note his presence is equally a waste for Pakistan as well.

 

[Kyussis]

This guy has Obama’s charm, Obama’s intellect, Reagan’s communication skills and LBJ’s balls.

US’ first practicing Muslim president

They would JFK him if they thought he had any chance of becoming President.

 

[Master Chief]

I do not blame Pakistan for the failure of the MoU honestly. I completely blame it on our stupid politicians. The US does not want a deal because they think they can break Iran with economic sanctions and cycles of war + peace.

We are in this current situation because we're ruled by idiots, not because of a failed MoU that Pakistan mediated.

The problem with this assessment, while much of may well be true, none of it actually clarifies why the MoU was broken. It was broken because somebody broke it and that somebody was Israel, who could not be beholden to the requirement of reversing their occupation of Lebanon. Rightly or wrongly, this was one of Iran's key stipulations and it was the first to be broken.

Pakistan's establishment acted in good faith and you cannot provide evidence to the contrary.

This is a moot point now of course and I agree with others who have said Munir should not be even attempting to mediate now. Frankly, it is a distraction to us as much as it is to you.

Indeed, the only outcome of this latest circus may simply be a cooling of oil prices, but even that is far from a certainty at this stage.

 

[Shags202]

Almost all Sunni Muslim countries hate Iran.

There is not a single Sunni Muslim country in Middle East or Africa that has a positive views of Iran (leadership wise - forgot population since their population cannot do anything). In fact , ironically Pakistan/Turkey are the only semi friendly countries.

Even the new Shiite PM of Iraq has sent multiple blows to Iran.

At least you admit it’s just the “leaders” of those countries finally

 

[Arash]

Already been denied and no deal is close

People think a deal is close when Bibi is talking like this:

For what it's worth my reading is that the u.s. admin wants to find a diplomatic way that portrays them as the winners. Israel wants war at all costs.

 

[Immortals]

Iranian aluminum factory exploded today….

 

[Immortals]

For what it's worth my reading is that the u.s. admin wants to find a diplomatic way that portrays them as the winners. Israel wants war at all costs.

Trump’s son in law is best friend s with Bibi and always talking on the phone with him.

Trump and his family have ZERO INCENTIVE to strike a deal with Iran. They want regime change and a friendly to Israel regime in Tehran (which Big Nose Phalavi is desperate to show he can be, but Trump doesn’t respect him and he won’t survive in ruthless Iran that has murdered numerous politicians in last 100 years).

And also keep in mind Epstein was a Mossad asset and Bibi likely has alot of dirt on Trump and his Epstein connection. So Trump will walk the Israeli line as long as he is president.

 

[925boy]

He’s not welcomed by anyone..

Agreed ,let's add Zekenskeet to that list too. Bad people in positions of power.

only elected official have respect..

Except Netanyahu.

don’t forget

Never

 

[Immortals]

 

[Falcon29]

I am confident Iran will not sign a Obama like deal.

For a start, SoH is now Iranian property.

And all the frozen assets will have to be released upfront.

Whereas the Obama deal stipulated how it could be used.

Possibility that Iranian leadership views it this way. Biggest losers would be GCC in this scenario.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Oracle]

Russia and Pakistan are requesting Iran to give face saving to usa. ( one last hit by usa and Iran to not to retaliate much)..

However Iran threatens to burn every neighbour country....

Another war is coming. Now it depends how Iran will retaliate

 

[Immortals]

The problem with this assessment, while much of may well be true, none of it actually clarifies why the MoU was broken. It was broken because somebody broke it and that somebody was Israel, who could not be beholden to the requirement of reversing their occupation of Lebanon. Rightly or wrongly, this was one of Iran's key stipulations and it was the first to be broken.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

It was a fake deal. The whole point of MOU was for:

• U.S. to get the 150 million barrels stuck inside the strait out
• Iran to bury their supreme leader without their entire new leadership being taken out and get their own 60 million barrels out

That’s it! You think one of the most pivotal U.S.-Iran agreements of the war would have been signed at a random dinner in France by Trump? Alongside Macron who Trump doesn’t even like? The optics never made sense.

Also US violated the agreement on day 1 by moving all ships thru the Oman lane with zero coordination or consent of Iran which violated the MoU understanding that said iran would handle coordination of vessels.

The Israeli violations were just the cherry on top, but not critical since Israel has refrained from striking Beirut (a new Iranian red line).