Where is Pakistan headed in the China-Türkiye relationship?

[Pioneer]

I think you are right, the Turks were afraid of great Chinamen.

You are under the jurisdiction of the UK, not China. You don't need to fear China. Instead, worry about Greece.

 

[Master Chief]

 

[King Vahram]

These are the kinds of images being shared by Turkish mainstream media.

 

[Ravenman]

These are the kinds of images being shared by Turkish mainstream media.

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And here a commercial of a Dutch fruitdrink with Chinese look-a-likes.

 

[Ravenman]

You are under the jurisdiction of the UK, not China. You don't need to fear China. Instead, worry about Greece.

What was wrong with Mbappe's statement? Why was China again on hysteria mode?

Wasnt Mao a childfucking dictator?

 

[El Sidd]

Bahi can you stop trolling...
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Digital archaeology will prove you wrong.

 

[RescueRanger]

Digital archaeology will prove you wrong.

Okay sir.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I heard that the descendants of Genghis Khan (grandchildren?) easily destroyed Türkiye. There was almost no resistance... How does the history book of Türkiye record it?

So generally the Turco-Mongol empire is respected by Turks. Cengiz is a popular name still to this day with the Turks. In the case of the Seljuk Turks they defeated them but in the case of the Turks under Kipchak Turk Sultan baybars they were defeated. Infact i think the only peoples to gain any military victories during the great rise of the Turco-Mongol empire were other Turkic states. For example the Turkic Delhi sultanate that ruled much of India also defeated the Mongols.

The chinese in comparison despite outnumbering the Mongols a 1000 to 1 got absolutely destroyed and conquered by the Mongols.

Let me guess the chinese books bullshit you that the Turco-Mongol was a Chinese empire.

 

[Anatolia]

So generally the Turco-Mongol empire is respected by Turks. Cengiz is a popular name still to this day with the Turks. In the case of the Seljuk Turks they defeated them but in the case of the Turks under Kipchak Turk Sultan baybars they were defeated. Infact i think the only peoples to gain any military victories during the great rise of the Turco-Mongol empire were other Turkic states. For example the Turkic Delhi sultanate that ruled much of India also defeated the Mongols.

The chinese in comparison despite outnumbering the Mongols a 1000 to 1 got absolutely destroyed and conquered by the Mongols.

Let me guess the chinese books bullshit you that the Turco-Mongol was a Chinese empire.

The Chinese do not know their history. They are not taught Barbarian culture. they look down on it. so they have no clue the name of Genghis Khan even.

Temüjin (Genghis Khan's birth name),

According to the traditional Mongol chronicles, Temüjin was named after a Tatar chief called Temüjin-Üge, whom his father had captured around the time of his birth. So Genghis Khan's name was likely taken from that Tatar leader's name.

What's interesting is that Temüjin, Temür, Timur, Temir, and Demir all seem to be related to the ancient steppe root for "iron". The word appears across both Mongolic and Turkic languages:

• Mongolian: Temür = iron
• Kazakh: Temir = iron
• Kyrgyz: Temir = iron
• Turkish: Demir = iron
• Uzbek: Temur = iron

The famous conqueror Timur (Tamerlane) lived centuries later and bore a related "iron" name, but he was not named after Genghis Khan.

 

[GoatsMilk]

The Chinese do not know their history. They are not taught Barbarian culture. they look down on it. so they have no clue the name of Genghis Khan even.

Temüjin (Genghis Khan's birth name),

According to the traditional Mongol chronicles, Temüjin was named after a Tatar chief called Temüjin-Üge, whom his father had captured around the time of his birth. So Genghis Khan's name was likely taken from that Tatar leader's name.

What's interesting is that Temüjin, Temür, Timur, Temir, and Demir all seem to be related to the ancient steppe root for "iron". The word appears across both Mongolic and Turkic languages:

• Mongolian: Temür = iron
• Kazakh: Temir = iron
• Kyrgyz: Temir = iron
• Turkish: Demir = iron
• Uzbek: Temur = iron

The famous conqueror Timur (Tamerlane) lived centuries later and bore a related "iron" name, but he was not named after Genghis Khan.

I know the Ottoman sultans claimed direct linage from the great Khan. The Crimean Khanate rulers who also had direct linage to Temujin were basically told by the Ottomans that if the Ottoman dynasty was to cease, that their dynasty would have the right take over complete rule.

When you see these chinese talking shit they know nothing about it honestly reminds me of the same dopey shit we hear from the greeks.

 

[MH.Yang]

The Turks are mostly Roman or you can call it more precise The Byzantinians. There is part greek in there but mostly Byzantians as Byzantine itself was a collection of Europeans that gathered together that settle there to form Byzantine empire just like USA minus other ethnic groups with only Europeans in there plus with some greek, mideast flavor added to it including some final touches of turkic.

But honestly if you look at it from an overall point of view, then Turkey honours the Asian culture which is atleast something China should appreciate.

excluding the claims on East Turkestan but other then that they are pro-Asians and hail the Asian plains as part of their civilization..... Example Turkey and Korea are very friendly with each other because they claim to be distant cousins.

They do not like their European heritage but prefer their Asian/Chinese hertige but you will see other bums like the Indians doing it the opposite trying to connect themselves to Europe while the Turks are running away from their European bloodline and hertige to claim roots in China. Atleast you gotta appreciate that somehow

We only recognize DNA test reports.

For example, Hungarians also talk about their association with the Xiongnu, but Chinese people are not angry. Because the DNA of Hungarians proves that they do have 15% East Asian steppe ancestry. In the historical narratives of countries such as Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, their historical relationship with the Xiongnu is also promoted, and their DNA contains 40% of East Asian grassland genes, so we also acknowledge it.

The Turkish ambitions pose no threat to China. We don't care because they have not threaten our strength and potential. What we care about is a group of Greek descendants who were conquered by the Turks and are tarnishing a branch of Chinese civilization.

The Turks' behavior is similar to that of a group of Indians who claimed that they were Anglo Saxons and defeated China in the Opium War.

 

[MH.Yang]

Didnt this all happen after Ghengis Khan? Because Ghengis Khan conquered China from West Xia to the land of the Jin and beyond the Wall. He invaded Northern China and took a lot of cities and attacked Beijing.

But yeah, according to CCP the person of Ghengis Khan never existed and its just fantasy.

Genghis Khan and other East Asian grassland leaders have nothing to do with Turks. You are just a group of Greeks conquered by them, descendants of slaves. Your DNA is evidence.

 

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HARAY HARAY MAN TURKEM

 

[AiChina]

Cowards? We fucked your yellow hairless butts in the Korea War even when we depleted all our ammo. The Americans left the battle but we used our bayonets as sish kebabs and your soldiers were nothing more as Tjap Tjoi.

Many stories about Turkish soldiers putting frozen Chinese corps next to another and using as sandbags for cover.

And you can read every history book about the Battle of the Kunuri except Chinese because its forbidden knowledge for them. In

Cowards? We fucked your yellow hairless butts in the Korea War even when we depleted all our ammo. The Americans left the battle but we used our bayonets as sish kebabs and your soldiers were nothing more as Tjap Tjoi.

Many stories about Turkish soldiers putting frozen Chinese corps next to another and using as sandbags for cover.

And you can read every history book about the Battle of the Kunuri except Chinese because its forbidden knowledge for them.

BATTLE OF WAWON​

1950 Nov 27
Wawon, east of Kunu-ri, North Korea

The Battle of Wawon occurred from 27 to 29 November 1950, near Wawon in present-day North Korea, as part of the Korean War. Following the collapse of the US Eighth Army's right flank during the Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River, the Chinese People's Volunteer Army (PVA) 38th Corps advanced towards the critical road junction at Kunu-ri to cut off United Nations forces. The Turkish Brigade, newly arrived and assigned as the reserve of the US IX Corps, was tasked with delaying the Chinese advance. On 26 November, the Turkish Brigade mistakenly engaged a column of South Korean soldiers, resulting in casualties on both sides. By the night of 27 November, the Turkish Brigade established a defensive perimeter in Wawon, where they faced the PVA 114th Division, which launched concentrated attacks against their positions.

On 28 November, the Turkish defenders engaged in fierce combat, suffering approximately 400 casualties as they fought to maintain their positions against the encroaching Chinese forces. As the situation deteriorated, Brigadier General Tahsin Yazıcı ordered a withdrawal to Sinim-ri, but the brigade was soon cut off by the PVA, leading to further isolation and heavy fighting. Despite running low on ammunition, the Turkish Brigade continued to resist until a timely airstrike allowed them to escape encirclement. By the end of the battle, the brigade was fragmented, with significant losses in personnel and equipment. The remnants of the Turkish Brigade regrouped with the US 2nd Infantry Division at Kunu-ri, but continued to face renewed attacks from the PVA, which ultimately led to their further disarray and the exposure of the US right flank.

On 29 November, the PVA 114th Division, having linked with the 112th Division, launched renewed assaults against the Turkish Brigade and the US 38th Infantry Regiment. The Turkish forces, now in retreat, struggled to maintain cohesion as they faced overwhelming Chinese numbers. The PVA successfully outflanked the Turks, leading to a chaotic withdrawal that left the Turkish Brigade effectively destroyed as a fighting unit, with approximately 20 percent of its personnel becoming casualties. The battle exemplified the challenges faced by UN forces in the Korean War and highlighted the critical role of the Turkish Brigade in delaying the PVA advance, allowing for the safe withdrawal of other UN units.

China beats the crap out of you mate

 

[Anatolia]

We only recognize DNA test reports.

For example, Hungarians also talk about their association with the Xiongnu, but Chinese people are not angry. Because the DNA of Hungarians proves that they do have 15% East Asian steppe ancestry. In the historical narratives of countries such as Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, their historical relationship with the Xiongnu is also promoted, and their DNA contains 40% of East Asian grassland genes, so we also acknowledge it.

The Turkish ambitions pose no threat to China. We don't care because they have not threaten our strength and potential. What we care about is a group of Greek descendants who were conquered by the Turks and are tarnishing a branch of Chinese civilization.

The Turks' behavior is similar to that of a group of Indians who claimed that they were Anglo Saxons and defeated China in the Opium War.

You have nothing to do with Xiongu though.

Turkish flags always waved by Turks all over.

Grey Wolf sign, you know what that is, yeah?