Where is Pakistan headed in the China-Türkiye relationship?

[Ravenman]

The terrifying ability of Türkiye to alter history.

btw, the Song Dynasty killed Mongke Khan. Zhu Yuanzhang destroyed the Mongol Empire. Lan Yu massacred Mongol nobles at Lake Baikal.

Didnt this all happen after Ghengis Khan? Because Ghengis Khan conquered China from West Xia to the land of the Jin and beyond the Wall. He invaded Northern China and took a lot of cities and attacked Beijing.

But yeah, according to CCP the person of Ghengis Khan never existed and its just fantasy.

 

[Ravenman]

"Hmm. Turkish textbook: We encountered powerful Mongolians in the 6th century and were humiliated. We fled to a distance of 6000km... Hmm. Turkish history."

I think you are right, the Turks were afraid of great Chinamen.

 

[Pioneer]

Didnt this all happen after Ghengis Khan? Because Ghengis Khan conquered China from West Xia to the land of the Jin and beyond the Wall. He invaded Northern China and took a lot of cities and attacked Beijing.

But yeah, according to CCP the person of Ghengis Khan never existed and its just fantasy.

I heard that the descendants of Genghis Khan (grandchildren?) easily destroyed Türkiye. There was almost no resistance... How does the history book of Türkiye record it?

 

[Pioneer]

I think you are right, the Turks were afraid of great Chinamen.

You are under the jurisdiction of the UK, not China. You don't need to fear China. Instead, worry about Greece.

 

[Master Chief]

 

[King Vahram]

These are the kinds of images being shared by Turkish mainstream media.

 

[Ravenman]

These are the kinds of images being shared by Turkish mainstream media.

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And here a commercial of a Dutch fruitdrink with Chinese look-a-likes.

 

[Ravenman]

You are under the jurisdiction of the UK, not China. You don't need to fear China. Instead, worry about Greece.

What was wrong with Mbappe's statement? Why was China again on hysteria mode?

Wasnt Mao a childfucking dictator?

 

[El Sidd]

Bahi can you stop trolling...
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Digital archaeology will prove you wrong.

 

[RescueRanger]

Digital archaeology will prove you wrong.

Okay sir.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I heard that the descendants of Genghis Khan (grandchildren?) easily destroyed Türkiye. There was almost no resistance... How does the history book of Türkiye record it?

So generally the Turco-Mongol empire is respected by Turks. Cengiz is a popular name still to this day with the Turks. In the case of the Seljuk Turks they defeated them but in the case of the Turks under Kipchak Turk Sultan baybars they were defeated. Infact i think the only peoples to gain any military victories during the great rise of the Turco-Mongol empire were other Turkic states. For example the Turkic Delhi sultanate that ruled much of India also defeated the Mongols.

The chinese in comparison despite outnumbering the Mongols a 1000 to 1 got absolutely destroyed and conquered by the Mongols.

Let me guess the chinese books bullshit you that the Turco-Mongol was a Chinese empire.

 

[Anatolia]

So generally the Turco-Mongol empire is respected by Turks. Cengiz is a popular name still to this day with the Turks. In the case of the Seljuk Turks they defeated them but in the case of the Turks under Kipchak Turk Sultan baybars they were defeated. Infact i think the only peoples to gain any military victories during the great rise of the Turco-Mongol empire were other Turkic states. For example the Turkic Delhi sultanate that ruled much of India also defeated the Mongols.

The chinese in comparison despite outnumbering the Mongols a 1000 to 1 got absolutely destroyed and conquered by the Mongols.

Let me guess the chinese books bullshit you that the Turco-Mongol was a Chinese empire.

The Chinese do not know their history. They are not taught Barbarian culture. they look down on it. so they have no clue the name of Genghis Khan even.

Temüjin (Genghis Khan's birth name),

According to the traditional Mongol chronicles, Temüjin was named after a Tatar chief called Temüjin-Üge, whom his father had captured around the time of his birth. So Genghis Khan's name was likely taken from that Tatar leader's name.

What's interesting is that Temüjin, Temür, Timur, Temir, and Demir all seem to be related to the ancient steppe root for "iron". The word appears across both Mongolic and Turkic languages:

• Mongolian: Temür = iron
• Kazakh: Temir = iron
• Kyrgyz: Temir = iron
• Turkish: Demir = iron
• Uzbek: Temur = iron

The famous conqueror Timur (Tamerlane) lived centuries later and bore a related "iron" name, but he was not named after Genghis Khan.

 

[GoatsMilk]

The Chinese do not know their history. They are not taught Barbarian culture. they look down on it. so they have no clue the name of Genghis Khan even.

Temüjin (Genghis Khan's birth name),

According to the traditional Mongol chronicles, Temüjin was named after a Tatar chief called Temüjin-Üge, whom his father had captured around the time of his birth. So Genghis Khan's name was likely taken from that Tatar leader's name.

What's interesting is that Temüjin, Temür, Timur, Temir, and Demir all seem to be related to the ancient steppe root for "iron". The word appears across both Mongolic and Turkic languages:

• Mongolian: Temür = iron
• Kazakh: Temir = iron
• Kyrgyz: Temir = iron
• Turkish: Demir = iron
• Uzbek: Temur = iron

The famous conqueror Timur (Tamerlane) lived centuries later and bore a related "iron" name, but he was not named after Genghis Khan.

I know the Ottoman sultans claimed direct linage from the great Khan. The Crimean Khanate rulers who also had direct linage to Temujin were basically told by the Ottomans that if the Ottoman dynasty was to cease, that their dynasty would have the right take over complete rule.

When you see these chinese talking shit they know nothing about it honestly reminds me of the same dopey shit we hear from the greeks.

 

[MH.Yang]

The Turks are mostly Roman or you can call it more precise The Byzantinians. There is part greek in there but mostly Byzantians as Byzantine itself was a collection of Europeans that gathered together that settle there to form Byzantine empire just like USA minus other ethnic groups with only Europeans in there plus with some greek, mideast flavor added to it including some final touches of turkic.

But honestly if you look at it from an overall point of view, then Turkey honours the Asian culture which is atleast something China should appreciate.

excluding the claims on East Turkestan but other then that they are pro-Asians and hail the Asian plains as part of their civilization..... Example Turkey and Korea are very friendly with each other because they claim to be distant cousins.

They do not like their European heritage but prefer their Asian/Chinese hertige but you will see other bums like the Indians doing it the opposite trying to connect themselves to Europe while the Turks are running away from their European bloodline and hertige to claim roots in China. Atleast you gotta appreciate that somehow

We only recognize DNA test reports.

For example, Hungarians also talk about their association with the Xiongnu, but Chinese people are not angry. Because the DNA of Hungarians proves that they do have 15% East Asian steppe ancestry. In the historical narratives of countries such as Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, their historical relationship with the Xiongnu is also promoted, and their DNA contains 40% of East Asian grassland genes, so we also acknowledge it.

The Turkish ambitions pose no threat to China. We don't care because they have not threaten our strength and potential. What we care about is a group of Greek descendants who were conquered by the Turks and are tarnishing a branch of Chinese civilization.

The Turks' behavior is similar to that of a group of Indians who claimed that they were Anglo Saxons and defeated China in the Opium War.

 

[MH.Yang]

Didnt this all happen after Ghengis Khan? Because Ghengis Khan conquered China from West Xia to the land of the Jin and beyond the Wall. He invaded Northern China and took a lot of cities and attacked Beijing.

But yeah, according to CCP the person of Ghengis Khan never existed and its just fantasy.

Genghis Khan and other East Asian grassland leaders have nothing to do with Turks. You are just a group of Greeks conquered by them, descendants of slaves. Your DNA is evidence.