Where is Pakistan headed in the China-Türkiye relationship?

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HARAY HARAY MAN TURKEM

 

[AiChina]

Cowards? We fucked your yellow hairless butts in the Korea War even when we depleted all our ammo. The Americans left the battle but we used our bayonets as sish kebabs and your soldiers were nothing more as Tjap Tjoi.

Many stories about Turkish soldiers putting frozen Chinese corps next to another and using as sandbags for cover.

And you can read every history book about the Battle of the Kunuri except Chinese because its forbidden knowledge for them. In

Cowards? We fucked your yellow hairless butts in the Korea War even when we depleted all our ammo. The Americans left the battle but we used our bayonets as sish kebabs and your soldiers were nothing more as Tjap Tjoi.

Many stories about Turkish soldiers putting frozen Chinese corps next to another and using as sandbags for cover.

And you can read every history book about the Battle of the Kunuri except Chinese because its forbidden knowledge for them.

BATTLE OF WAWON​

1950 Nov 27
Wawon, east of Kunu-ri, North Korea

The Battle of Wawon occurred from 27 to 29 November 1950, near Wawon in present-day North Korea, as part of the Korean War. Following the collapse of the US Eighth Army's right flank during the Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River, the Chinese People's Volunteer Army (PVA) 38th Corps advanced towards the critical road junction at Kunu-ri to cut off United Nations forces. The Turkish Brigade, newly arrived and assigned as the reserve of the US IX Corps, was tasked with delaying the Chinese advance. On 26 November, the Turkish Brigade mistakenly engaged a column of South Korean soldiers, resulting in casualties on both sides. By the night of 27 November, the Turkish Brigade established a defensive perimeter in Wawon, where they faced the PVA 114th Division, which launched concentrated attacks against their positions.

On 28 November, the Turkish defenders engaged in fierce combat, suffering approximately 400 casualties as they fought to maintain their positions against the encroaching Chinese forces. As the situation deteriorated, Brigadier General Tahsin Yazıcı ordered a withdrawal to Sinim-ri, but the brigade was soon cut off by the PVA, leading to further isolation and heavy fighting. Despite running low on ammunition, the Turkish Brigade continued to resist until a timely airstrike allowed them to escape encirclement. By the end of the battle, the brigade was fragmented, with significant losses in personnel and equipment. The remnants of the Turkish Brigade regrouped with the US 2nd Infantry Division at Kunu-ri, but continued to face renewed attacks from the PVA, which ultimately led to their further disarray and the exposure of the US right flank.

On 29 November, the PVA 114th Division, having linked with the 112th Division, launched renewed assaults against the Turkish Brigade and the US 38th Infantry Regiment. The Turkish forces, now in retreat, struggled to maintain cohesion as they faced overwhelming Chinese numbers. The PVA successfully outflanked the Turks, leading to a chaotic withdrawal that left the Turkish Brigade effectively destroyed as a fighting unit, with approximately 20 percent of its personnel becoming casualties. The battle exemplified the challenges faced by UN forces in the Korean War and highlighted the critical role of the Turkish Brigade in delaying the PVA advance, allowing for the safe withdrawal of other UN units.

China beats the crap out of you mate

 

[Anatolia]

We only recognize DNA test reports.

For example, Hungarians also talk about their association with the Xiongnu, but Chinese people are not angry. Because the DNA of Hungarians proves that they do have 15% East Asian steppe ancestry. In the historical narratives of countries such as Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, their historical relationship with the Xiongnu is also promoted, and their DNA contains 40% of East Asian grassland genes, so we also acknowledge it.

The Turkish ambitions pose no threat to China. We don't care because they have not threaten our strength and potential. What we care about is a group of Greek descendants who were conquered by the Turks and are tarnishing a branch of Chinese civilization.

The Turks' behavior is similar to that of a group of Indians who claimed that they were Anglo Saxons and defeated China in the Opium War.

You have nothing to do with Xiongu though.

Turkish flags always waved by Turks all over.

Grey Wolf sign, you know what that is, yeah?

 

[wangdefa]

Engaging in historical debates here holds no significance for me, but from what I see on Twitter, the Chinese people have a clear and comprehensive understanding of history. As one of the four ancient civilizations, history is an unavoidable and essential subject for every student, whether it is the millennia-long historical heritage of China or world history.
You cannot fabricate a history of nothingness and then convince a Chinese person, because every written record leaves its trace.

 

[MH.Yang]

You have nothing to do with Xiongu though.

Turkish flags always waved by Turks all over.

Grey Wolf sign, you know what that is, yeah?

The Xiongnu royal family and the aristocracy were Han Chinese.

After the downfall of the Xia Dynasty by the Shang Dynasty in China, some nobles of the Xia Dynasty fled to the grasslands and began to integrate the wild people of various tribes on the grasslands, eventually forming the Xiongnu. The Xiongnu are the grassland branch of Chinese civilization. That's why Chinese people strongly dislike a group of conquered Greeks impersonating the Xiongnu.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Didnt this all happen after Ghengis Khan? Because Ghengis Khan conquered China from West Xia to the land of the Jin and beyond the Wall. He invaded Northern China and took a lot of cities and attacked Beijing.

But yeah, according to CCP the person of Ghengis Khan never existed and its just fantasy.

Genghis Khan destroyed the Jin Dynasty with 60 million of population with the peasantry mostly Han Chinese, but its ruling elites were mostly Jurchens.

By that time, China's artillery/powder technologies were fully spread to Europe via the Mongol Empire.

And it was his grandson Kublai Khan who fully destroyed the Southern Song Dynasty with 100 million population where both peasantry and ruling class were Han Chinese.

And during Kublai Khan era, the Mongol Empire was split into 4 parts, he controlled the Yuan Dynasty in China.

Although the Han Chinese were fully enslaved by the Mongols during the Yuan Dynasty, but it was still part of China's history, just like the Golden Hordes era was also a undeniable part of Russia's history.

 

[MH.Yang]

Genghis Khan destroyed the Jin Dynasty with 60 million of population with the peasantry mostly Han Chinese, but its ruling elites were mostly Jurchens.

By that time, China's artillery/powder technologies were fully spread to Europe via the Mongol Empire.

And it was his grandson Kublai Khan who fully destroyed the Southern Song Dynasty with 100 million population where both peasantry and ruling class were Han Chinese.

And during Kublai Khan era, the Mongol Empire was split into 4 parts, he controlled the Yuan Dynasty in China.

Although the Han Chinese were fully enslaved by the Mongols during the Yuan Dynasty, but it was still part of China's history, just like the Golden Hordes era was also a undeniable part of Russia's history.

The Han people were indeed conquered by the Mongols and Manchus, but we are the ultimate victors. The hardships of the past are our badge of glory, a testament to our courage to make a comeback time and time again. These descendants of slaves who impersonate slave owners cannot understand true morality and glory.

They live in a false historical narrative, which is why they believe that Chinese people will modify history and even do not understand Genghis Khan and Huang Taiji. Because they are using their own experiences to fantasize about the experiences of Chinese people.

Even Indians consider colonial history a shame and do not consider themselves descendants of the British, but they take pride in the history of the rape of the conquered.

We cannot teach them that just because a woman is raped by 14 men does not mean that the families of these 14 men will recognize her as an automatic family member. Her DNA doesn't lie.

 

[Anatolia]

The Xiongnu royal family and the aristocracy were Han Chinese.

After the downfall of the Xia Dynasty by the Shang Dynasty in China, some nobles of the Xia Dynasty fled to the grasslands and began to integrate the wild people of various tribes on the grasslands, eventually forming the Xiongnu. The Xiongnu are the grassland branch of Chinese civilization. That's why Chinese people strongly dislike a group of conquered Greeks impersonating the Xiongnu.

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The ruling clan of the Xiongnu was the Luandi (Luan-ti) clan, which supplied the Chanyus (Xiongnu supreme rulers), including figures such as Touman and Modu (Maodun) Chanyu. The Luandi were regarded in Chinese sources as the ruling dynasty of the Xiongnu, not as a Han Chinese family.

Please stop stealing our history. No Turk claims Han Empire or whatever as Turk, so you shouldn't do the same.
Thanks.

 

[MH.Yang]

The ruling clan of the Xiongnu was the Luandi (Luan-ti) clan, which supplied the Chanyus (Xiongnu supreme rulers), including figures such as Touman and Modu (Maodun) Chanyu. The Luandi were regarded in Chinese sources as the ruling dynasty of the Xiongnu, not as a Han Chinese family.

Please stop stealing our history. No Turk claims Han Empire or whatever as Turk, so you shouldn't do the same.
Thanks.

The royal family and nobles of the Xiongnu came from China, and the lower class herders of the Xiongnu were indeed grassland herders with chaotic bloodlines. We have a wealth of uninterrupted historical records to prove that you only have one mouth that keeps spreading rumors.

Your DNA proves that you have no connection to the East Asian grasslands. DNA doesn't lie, you do.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Han people were indeed conquered by the Mongols and Manchus, but we are the ultimate victors. The hardships of the past are our badge of glory, a testament to our courage to make a comeback time and time again. These descendants of slaves who impersonate slave owners cannot understand true morality and glory.

They live in a false historical narrative, which is why they believe that Chinese people will modify history and even do not understand Genghis Khan and Huang Taiji. Because they are using their own experiences to fantasize about the experiences of Chinese people.

Even Indians consider colonial history a shame and do not consider themselves descendants of the British, but they take pride in the history of the rape of the conquered.

We cannot teach them that just because a woman is raped by 14 men does not mean that the families of these 14 men will recognize her as an automatic family member. Her DNA doesn't lie.

We were descended from the peasantry of the traditional agrarian Chinese Dynasties.

Since our ancestors were very smart to invent many pre-industrial technologies via their great artisanship, and the rich elites from the ancient China were the first to invent the fiat currency and the earliest form of the modern finance long before the western finance.

However, we lack the aggressive expansionist nature of the earliest western colonists/capitalists, that's why China was destined to miss the capitalistic industrial revolution.

By now, the descendants of the western capitalists have become fully atomized/fragmented, and they won't have any chance to rejuvenate themselves to advance their civilization into the next level.

Only China with the great foresight of Chairman Mao can allow us to fully bypass this trap for the capitalists, and it will allow us to develop into a hyper collective society which will push us toward the next level.

 

[MH.Yang]

Also, the Turkish narrative about the function of the Great Wall is also a lie.

The main function of the Great Wall is offense, not defense.

For example, in ancient China, the sale of strategic goods to grassland ethnic groups was prohibited, including but not limited to iron, horses, sulfur, nitrate, archery materials, salt, grain, tea, cloth, medicine, and so on. The Great Wall can effectively block merchant caravans.

Secondly, every autumn, the Chinese army takes turns to set fire to grasslands and forests. Every winter, the army goes to the grasslands to destroy grassland tribes outside the Great Wall, kill livestock, plunder the population of grassland tribes, and relocate them to the Great Wall, destroying water sources. The Great Wall can provide cover for military assembly and mobilization, preventing grassland tribes from relocating in advance.

As for defense, the Great Wall's defensive capability is not strong. A wall only a few meters high cannot stop an army; it can only block caravans and scouts.

Anyone with even a modicum of knowledge about ancient military history can easily discern the true purpose of the Great Wall. Only those with ulterior motives and a severe inferiority complex, who wish to steal the glory of Chinese civilization, would degrade the function of the Great Wall to a purely defensive facility.

 

[HERO]

Not in the same league. Not worth a peer-level response.

 

[ety]

Not in the same league. Not worth a peer-level response.

Lol, they might actually think Turkey is like a "superpower" more powerful than China. They have the second largest number of foreign military bases after the US. That's why they are constantly trying to challenge China that is 6000 km away.

 

[wangdefa]

Lol, they might actually think Turkey is like a "superpower" more powerful than China. They have the second largest number of foreign military bases after the US. That's why they are constantly trying to challenge China that is 6000 km away.

As netizens have said, a country with a moon on its flag is comparing its technology, military, economy, and historical continuity with a country that has a flag on the moon.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

As netizens have said, a country with a moon on its flag is comparing its technology, military, economy, and historical continuity with a country that has a flag on the moon.

We maintain our stance against the historical revisionism, but no need to mock fun of other people's national flag.