Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Gents now there is suspicion that UAE covertly helping the houthi's:



What a messed up dirty war this is.
 
Ah yes, “elections” or, shall we say, the appointments of Israel and America are taken oh-so-seriously by the people, both on this forum and elsewhere. Of course, because the general policy of literally any country has never actually changed, nor will it ever unless, of course, they use the brilliant method they tried out in Syria and Libya, you know, the one that almost completely destroyed both countries. What a smashing success that was.

And let’s not forget a little history lesson. The first attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities happened neither under Trump nor even under Bidenو heaven forbid we credit the usual suspects. No, no. It was that charming fellow called Obama who, by masterfully abusing those hilarious international mechanisms like the IAEA which so generously handed over the information of our scientists, the entire nuclear cycle and process, and the locations of Iran’s completed or under-construction power plants to the West and Israel kicked off these attacks. Truly, a Nobel Peace Prize was well earned there.

It would be positively adorable, nay, naive to think that an election in Israel would change even an iota of the course of the war. We must fight Israel and America until the very last moment of the liberation of Islamic nations from American domination, from America’s lackeys, and naturally from the lackeys of the lackeys of America. (One shudders to think how deep this lackey-ception goes.)


Rest assured, Iran’s strategy and the West’s will under no circumstances change. But it is absolutely essential to point out that people like Obama and Biden are far, far more dangerous than the rest of the warmongering American terrorists, because they pursue the weakening of Iran under the hilarious banner of “human rights” and other such novelties, all while trying to build consensus against Iran. Which is why, without a doubt, madmen like Trump are actually necessary for Iran a real public service, really, to clarify the state of the world and the filthiness of America’s terrorist regime, so that the true face of this devil may be revealed more clearly than ever before. Thank you, Donald, for your invaluable contribution to transparency.
 
ShapurII said:
This meeting is about Yemen. Pakistan, and the whole Mecca Accord together, do not have any weight on the international stage whatsoever to influence the US decision making.

As for Yemen, Saudi Arabia started the war. They thought Iran had been weakened and it was a good time to "finish the job". Well, it turned out the Houthis are much stronger than they thought. Now they have to find a way to please the Houthis and convince them to stop the war. Iran didn't tell the Saudis to resume the war with Yemen to be responsible for this now.
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So Tehran has no leverage over one of their pet projects? Is that what you are trying to convince yourself to believe?

This mess could have been avoided.
Persian Gulf said:


Shia Iraq closes its airports and borders to us, while Sunni Afghanistan remains open for business

Those who view the region and Iran’s foreign policy through a sectarian religious lens should recognise that shared civilisational roots are more important than religious sects
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That's some interesting cope. "Shared civilisation roots" can also be trumped by absolute bog standard human desperation for money or resources.

You think Talibs are sitting in Kabul philosophising over "shared civilisational roots"?

For the same reasoning, sectarian and even "pan-Islamic" dramas are also a facade but I suspect your leadership is well aware of all this.

To borrow a phrase from Eddie Murphy, the only question that matters in regional diplomacy is: what have you done for me lately?
 
It does look like Netanyahu is the next leader of Israel.

The region should expect more Greater Israel operations and more war and more chaos especially Iran who will be on the receiving end of more shaping operations by Israel at a military level.
 
Ali_Baba said:
It does look like Netanyahu is the next leader of Israel.

The region should expect more Greater Israel operations and more war and more chaos especially Iran who will be on the receiving end of more shaping operations by Israel at a military level.
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This is EXCELLENT news as the other terrorist(whatever his name is) would have been labelled by the west as the "good one" and all is well again as per reputation of Zionist entity.

Iran should have responded over the weekend with a 200 missile barrage if only to "guarantee" Netanyahu got back in but all good anyway now it seems as arch war criminal is back in.
 
UKBengali said:
This is EXCELLENT news as the other terrorist(whatever his name is) would have been labelled by the west as the "good one" and all is well again as per reputation of Zionist entity.

Iran should have responded over the weekend with a 200 missile barrage if only to "guarantee" Netanyahu got back in but all good anyway now it seems as arch war criminal is back in.
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There is a now a need for a reckoning within the west itself on their approach to Israel, as their approach of "zero cost" and pleading does not work to get Israel to behave and will not do so for the next government for the next 4 years.

And there is now a reckoning for the region as a whole that either they join and take actions to make things better for themselves, or accept things will get worse if they decide to sit around and do nothing.

After Iran, I expect Israel to take the whole of South Syria on the pretext of "protecting" the Druze... Just watch.
 
Ali_Baba said:
There is a now a need for a reckoning within the west itself on their approach to Israel, as their approach of "zero cost" and pleading does not work to get Israel to behave and will not do so for the next government for the next 4 years.

And there is now a reckoning for the region as a whole that either they join and take actions to make things better for themselves, or accept things will get worse if they decide to sit around and do nothing.

After Iran, I expect Israel to take the whole of South Syria on the pretext of "protecting" the Druze... Just watch.
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Iran has not fallen and actually has the military advantage if it chooses to use it.

Iran has thousands of ballistic missiles and Zio-US is down to maybe 300-400 interceptors now. Also it now has access to super accurate optically guided Qasseem Bassir missile.

They can only produce 100-150 interceptors a year as "ramp up" to 400-500 a year won't happen till 2028-2029.

Ball is in Iran's court if it wants to press home its military advantage.
 
Persian Gulf said:


Shia Iraq closes its airports and borders to us, while Sunni Afghanistan remains open for business

Those who view the region and Iran’s foreign policy through a sectarian religious lens should recognise that shared civilisational roots are more important than religious sects
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And you think Afghanistan opens its borders because of "shared civilisational roots"?
 
UKBengali said:
Iran has not fallen and actually has the military advantage if it chooses to use it.

Iran has thousands of ballistic missiles and Zio-US is down to maybe 300-400 interceptors now. Also it now has access to super accurate optically guided Qasseem Bassir missile.

They can only produce 100 interceptors a year as "ramp up" to 300-400 a year won't happen till 2028-2029.

Ball is in Iran's court if it wants to press home its military advantage.
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I would say that "even" a fair amount of the Iranians on this thread here would agree that Iran has not handled the war well, esp with regards to Israel and its failure to impose a deterrent cost on Israel.

Had the war turned out to be a big disaster for Israel and Netanyahu, then maybe the vote would have gone different for Netanyahu but Israel left rather unscathed.

Iran is here, because of the decisions Iran has made, and Iran now has to face 4 more years of Netanyahu...

Netanyahu will be offered first refusal to form a government and an extension as prime minister until that process is resolved, he could then suspend the election process to wage a war on Iran and force another new election to try and increase his vote count. Is Iran now capable of changing decision by Netanyahu into a fatal mistake for Netanyahu?

Right now, Iran's approach to Israel has made it nothing more than an electioneering "prop" for Israel and personal kick around for Netanyahu every time Netanyahu wants a distraction.
 
Ali_Baba said:
There is a now a need for a reckoning within the west itself on their approach to Israel, as their approach of "zero cost" and pleading does not work to get Israel to behave and will not do so for the next government for the next 4 years.
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I am certain that most EU governments pinned their hopes on the elections, believing they would lead to the removal of such an abomination from the government.

That has not been the case, and it is clear that it is now up to the European Union to make a move—at the very least by imposing sanctions on Israel and increasing pressure regarding its foreign policy.

Either that, or we will all end up at war.
 
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