Microsoft Announces Major Downsizing - 60,000 Affected

Unfortunately, this impacts everyone.

Kids have gotten smarter. Number of kids enrolling for CS is plummeting. Electronics, AI...new frontier awaits..
With every new technological advancement, a course correction is inevitable. I’m old enough to have witnessed the computerisation of workplaces firsthand. Back then, there was a lot of noise about computers eating up jobs, too. History has a way of repeating itself!
 
With every new technological advancement, a course correction is inevitable. I’m old enough to have witnessed the computerisation of workplaces firsthand. Back then, there was a lot of noise about computers eating up jobs, too. History has a way of repeating itself!
Yes but you needed people to operate said computers. Sadly with the advent of ever increasingly advanced AI agents, human intervention will be a non issue as AI agents will simply be tasked to operate and maintain legacy systems including legacy AI agents themselves.
 
while i don't disagree with what you said, but i just have a bad feeling about this, specially when so many are warning us.
Who can afford to spend when we have no jobs left? We will become "useless eaters" to the global elites and they will want to get rid of most of us (depopulate).
That means no jobs at all.....

the datacenters are already gobbling up the drinkable water which is our biggest necessity for sustaining life....if there are shortages we're doomed
One way to address the cooling water requirements is to use treated effluent. Many people do not realize that effluent, if run through additional stages at the sewage treatment plant, becomes potable water.

How much effluent do you think is generated by a typical city on any given day? If you're still wonder about this:


Yes. Treated sewage effluent can be used for data centre cooling, and it is often a good alternative to drinking water. It is commonly referred to as reclaimed water or recycled wastewater when it is treated and supplied for reuse.

Data centres can consume significant volumes of water, particularly when using evaporative cooling. Reusing treated effluent can reduce demand on municipal drinking-water supplies and freshwater resources.

1.​




1. Sewage treatment plant

Secondary-treated effluent is collected for reuse.



2. Additional treatment

Filtration, disinfection, and, where necessary, softening or other processes to control scaling, corrosion, and biological growth.



3. Data centre cooling system

Reclaimed water supplies cooling towers or other suitable heat-rejection equipment.



4. Heat removal

Heat from servers is transferred to a cooling loop and ultimately rejected to the atmosphere or another heat sink.
The key point is that the recycled water normally cools the heat-rejection system, not the servers directly. Servers are typically cooled using a separate water or coolant loop, which may exchange heat with the reclaimed-water system through a heat exchanger.

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The water does not usually need to meet drinking-water standards for industrial cooling. Instead, it must meet the requirements of the cooling equipment and applicable regulations. The treatment depends on the effluent quality and the cooling system design.

US EPA
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Treatment stepPurpose
Fine filtrationPrevent suspended particles from clogging equipment
DisinfectionControl bacteria and other microorganisms
Softening or scale controlReduce mineral deposits on heat-transfer surfaces
Corrosion controlProtect pipes, heat exchangers and cooling towers
Biological growth controlLimit biofilms and manage Legionella risk, particularly in aerosol-generating systems
Blowdown managementRemove concentrated salts and contaminants from recirculating water
Reverse osmosis is not necessarily required. It may be justified where dissolved salts, silica, hardness or other contaminants make the effluent unsuitable for the intended cooling system. Cooling-tower water chemistry must be managed carefully because evaporation concentrates dissolved minerals.

Department of Energy
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Benefits

  • Reduces consumption of drinking-quality freshwater.
  • Creates a productive use for wastewater that might otherwise be discharged.
  • Can improve water security in areas experiencing water stress.
  • May reduce costs where reclaimed water is readily available nearby.

Challenges

  • Requires suitable treatment, storage and potentially dedicated pipelines.
  • Poor water chemistry can cause scaling, corrosion and fouling.
  • Cooling towers lose water through evaporation and require controlled blowdown.
  • Microbiological hazards and the disposal of concentrated wastewater must be managed.
  • Supply must remain reliable during periods of peak cooling demand.

4.​

Yes. The US Environmental Protection Agency documents industrial water reuse for data-centre cooling and other industrial applications. One example is Microsoft's partnership with the City of Quincy, Washington, to recycle data-centre cooling wastewater through a dedicated treatment facility.

US EPA
+1


5.​

A practical starting point is to:

  1. Quantify the data centre's hourly and annual cooling-water demand.
  2. Assess the sewage treatment plant's effluent quality, available flow and seasonal reliability.
  3. Test the effluent against cooling-system requirements, including hardness, conductivity, silica, nutrients, suspended solids and microbiological indicators.
  4. Select the appropriate treatment train and cooling technology.
  5. Design the cooling-water chemical programme, blowdown treatment and residuals disposal.
  6. Complete a lifecycle cost assessment covering treatment, pumping, pipelines, energy and water charges.
  7. Establish continuous monitoring, contingency supplies and regulatory approvals.
Bottom line: Treated sewage effluent is a technically viable and established source of cooling water for data centres. The best solution is usually to treat it to the quality needed for the specific cooling system, rather than to potable-water quality.
 
One way to address the cooling water requirements is to use treated effluent. Many people do not realize that effluent, if run through additional stages at the sewage treatment plant, becomes potable water.

How much effluent do you think is generated by a typical city on any given day? If you're still wonder about this:


Yes. Treated sewage effluent can be used for data centre cooling, and it is often a good alternative to drinking water. It is commonly referred to as reclaimed water or recycled wastewater when it is treated and supplied for reuse.

Data centres can consume significant volumes of water, particularly when using evaporative cooling. Reusing treated effluent can reduce demand on municipal drinking-water supplies and freshwater resources.

1.​




1. Sewage treatment plant

Secondary-treated effluent is collected for reuse.



2. Additional treatment

Filtration, disinfection, and, where necessary, softening or other processes to control scaling, corrosion, and biological growth.



3. Data centre cooling system

Reclaimed water supplies cooling towers or other suitable heat-rejection equipment.



4. Heat removal

Heat from servers is transferred to a cooling loop and ultimately rejected to the atmosphere or another heat sink.
The key point is that the recycled water normally cools the heat-rejection system, not the servers directly. Servers are typically cooled using a separate water or coolant loop, which may exchange heat with the reclaimed-water system through a heat exchanger.

2.​

The water does not usually need to meet drinking-water standards for industrial cooling. Instead, it must meet the requirements of the cooling equipment and applicable regulations. The treatment depends on the effluent quality and the cooling system design.

US EPA
+1


Treatment stepPurpose
Fine filtrationPrevent suspended particles from clogging equipment
DisinfectionControl bacteria and other microorganisms
Softening or scale controlReduce mineral deposits on heat-transfer surfaces
Corrosion controlProtect pipes, heat exchangers and cooling towers
Biological growth controlLimit biofilms and manage Legionella risk, particularly in aerosol-generating systems
Blowdown managementRemove concentrated salts and contaminants from recirculating water
Reverse osmosis is not necessarily required. It may be justified where dissolved salts, silica, hardness or other contaminants make the effluent unsuitable for the intended cooling system. Cooling-tower water chemistry must be managed carefully because evaporation concentrates dissolved minerals.

Department of Energy
+1


3.​


Benefits

  • Reduces consumption of drinking-quality freshwater.
  • Creates a productive use for wastewater that might otherwise be discharged.
  • Can improve water security in areas experiencing water stress.
  • May reduce costs where reclaimed water is readily available nearby.

Challenges

  • Requires suitable treatment, storage and potentially dedicated pipelines.
  • Poor water chemistry can cause scaling, corrosion and fouling.
  • Cooling towers lose water through evaporation and require controlled blowdown.
  • Microbiological hazards and the disposal of concentrated wastewater must be managed.
  • Supply must remain reliable during periods of peak cooling demand.

4.​

Yes. The US Environmental Protection Agency documents industrial water reuse for data-centre cooling and other industrial applications. One example is Microsoft's partnership with the City of Quincy, Washington, to recycle data-centre cooling wastewater through a dedicated treatment facility.

US EPA
+1


5.​

A practical starting point is to:

  1. Quantify the data centre's hourly and annual cooling-water demand.
  2. Assess the sewage treatment plant's effluent quality, available flow and seasonal reliability.
  3. Test the effluent against cooling-system requirements, including hardness, conductivity, silica, nutrients, suspended solids and microbiological indicators.
  4. Select the appropriate treatment train and cooling technology.
  5. Design the cooling-water chemical programme, blowdown treatment and residuals disposal.
  6. Complete a lifecycle cost assessment covering treatment, pumping, pipelines, energy and water charges.
  7. Establish continuous monitoring, contingency supplies and regulatory approvals.
Bottom line: Treated sewage effluent is a technically viable and established source of cooling water for data centres. The best solution is usually to treat it to the quality needed for the specific cooling system, rather than to potable-water quality.

Space has to be the answer, as much solar as you like and instant cooling!
 
Thing is "protection of workers" will mean capping the AI companies ability to make money and Tech companies ability to cut costs, lots of governments will be reluctant to do that, especially the Irish Government who make a lot of money out of Tech companies having their EMEA HQs in Dublin
I came to Ireland 4 years back for my son at an age people do not cross continent for work and after living here , i think I understood few things, I would not have otherwise. It's relevant to this topic. a) EU countries are dead scared of Russia ( USSR) which was a surprise to me but I think decades of fear creation has resulted in this survival sort of danger for them. b) These EU countries, in an attempt to counter Communism, became socialist and communist themself . All these social perks , free education, allowances and cash transfer are but a reaction to the pressure they face from USSR and expansion of communism. Now we do not have USSR , so corporates and govt do not have pressure point and they are no more caring about public and workers . And China is not seen as expansionist like USSR. I wish China should advertise socialist and communist ideology like erstwhile USSR , that will be a big stick in the hands of workers . But China seems more capitalist than many EU countries. Ireland depend upon US corporates. I don't think they will go against these corporates.
 
Crazy IT software developers have designed a system that’s going to replace their jobs.
 
Crazy IT software developers have designed a system that’s going to replace their jobs.
Not really. There is a huge difference in quality between the computer scientists and elite programmers who build these systems and the overpaid average developers whose jobs will become redundant. There will always be a need for the top guys in any field.
 
Not really. There is a huge difference in quality between the computer scientists and elite programmers who build these systems and the overpaid average developers whose jobs will become redundant. There will always be a need for the top guys in any field.


Governments really need to clamp down on AI GROWTH!!!

How quickly not just tech companies other sectors have adopted AI into their workforce… 😧

Employees pay tax, employers and employees pay Nat insurance , employees pay tax on nearly everything they buy! AI DOESN'T PAY TAX. So where is the money going to come from for gov to run the country? if we lay large proportion not just in IT Jobs but in all other sectors rest of the of the working population off. True in the past people re-skilled In the past

Were are up against dumb machines but these machines are most likely to become cleverer than us. It's the elephant in the room that nobody's talking about brother!!!
 
AI risk is it will make lots of us humans valueless. What else have we got.
 
Governments really need to clamp down on AI GROWTH!!!

How quickly not just tech companies other sectors have adopted AI into their workforce… 😧

Employees pay tax, employers and employees pay Nat insurance , employees pay tax on nearly everything they buy! AI DOESN'T PAY TAX. So where is the money going to come from for gov to run the country? if we lay large proportion not just in IT Jobs but in all other sectors rest of the of the working population off. True in the past people re-skilled In the past

Were are up against dumb machines but these machines are most likely to become cleverer than us. It's the elephant in the room that nobody's talking about brother!!!
 
Governments really need to clamp down on AI GROWTH!!!

How quickly not just tech companies other sectors have adopted AI into their workforce… 😧

Employees pay tax, employers and employees pay Nat insurance , employees pay tax on nearly everything they buy! AI DOESN'T PAY TAX. So where is the money going to come from for gov to run the country? if we lay large proportion not just in IT Jobs but in all other sectors rest of the of the working population off. True in the past people re-skilled In the past

Were are up against dumb machines but these machines are most likely to become cleverer than us. It's the elephant in the room that nobody's talking about brother!!!
The vast majority of the tax in almost all countries is paid by a few individuals and companies. They will mostly be fine.

AI is going to be very disruptive for the middle class in this generation and will widen class differences, but I am quite confident it will ultimately vastly improve quality of human life, just like the other great economic revolutions. Human beings have a great instinct for survival and we will adapt again, though, like always, there will be winners and losers.
 
AI risk is it will make lots of us humans valueless. What else have we got.

bro that's where that plan of violent depopulation agendas come in, they have plan to reduce global population (its way over 7 billion right now) right down to 500million or something.....
That's why u see these wars heating up!
There's too many flashpoints out there with nukes in many places, enough to blow the planet ecosystem off. Time will tell, nothing certain

Corporations always love saving money for the bottomline so they do whatever they can to remove human jobs and use more software/tools to automate. Employees are seen as a cost/burden these days by the bean counters
 

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