Pakistan's leaders dread US Democrats win but its households are praying for it

[El Sidd]

Wow, so much utter shit flows out of your account and we only really get a break when you get banned which never seems to last long enough...

There are some very juicy bills laying around in the congress. These have been meticulously drafted by Pakistani democracy patrons and wholeheartedly supported by Indian lobby.

 

[kambhakt]

That is a ridiculously farfetched connection that can only exist in some Indians' fantasies. Even the White House, let aside Congress, is not going to interfere in an ongoing IMF program.

The Congress is not going to interfere. It may now allow the IMF to take decisions without interference from the USA.

Here is an article which shows the USA interfering in the workings of the IMF for the sake of Pakistan

https://www.dawn.com/news/1695726/pakistan-seeks-us-help-with-imf-talks

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

I see youthias now are worshipping democrats, but Imrandu will die in jail. Democrats will not save him as they know his love for terrorism and Taliban. After all it ws democrats admin that was responsible for removing Imrandu in 2022.

 

[Master Chief]

Pakistan has not had civilian supremacy since Liaquat Ali Khan was assassinated. So, when you use "we", I assume you are speaking as a spokesperson for the military/hybrid regimes that have ruled Pakistan since then.

Anyway, I am confident that the Democrats would be more sympathetic to the cause of true democracy in Pakistan.

Again you have provided ZERO evidence for your claims, just as was the case earlier. Carry on embarrassing yourself

 

[K2RULEZ]

You are equating Pakistan's deep state with the country as a whole. The Democrats are more supportive of the democratic and human rights of the common people in Pakistan and other countries. Those who believe in Pakistan's Constitution and rule of law should welcome their policies.

We know the supportive the Democrats are of Pakistan an democracy within Pakistan.

 

[Owaiz]

The Congress is not going to interfere. It may now allow the IMF to take decisions without interference from the USA.

Here is an article which shows the USA interfering in the workings of the IMF for the sake of Pakistan

https://www.dawn.com/news/1695726/pakistan-seeks-us-help-with-imf-talks

No it doesn't. It just says the new regime installed after toppling Imran was asking the US to support negotiations on a new program after the previous one had been suspended. That is very different from asking the IMF to stop an ongoing program. Anyway, Congress has no direct administrative oversight over the IMF and Democracts anyway profess to stand for strong and independent UN institutions.

 

[Owaiz]

Wow, so much utter shit flows out of your account and we only really get a break when you get banned which never seems to last long enough...

I have no idea why i get banned or unbanned here, but if you have a problem , take it up with the boys at Aabpara.

I would personally prefer to stay banned. Most of the quality posters have either left on their own or been banned and we are left with low IQ trolls and ignorami who spew out drivel.

 

[peagle]

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistans-leaders-dread-us-democrats-win-its-households-are-praying-it-2026-11-06/

Surprisingly accurate assessment from Reuters

More Garbage, changes in administration or electoral outcomes are the hallmark of democratic societies' and it's especially the case in America.
The purpose of diplomacy is to take advantage of the moment you're in, which is exactly what Pakistani leadership has done, situations change, it does not mean the Pakistani leaderships thinking will remain static. They will adopt accordingly.

There's a logic in such articles that Pakistan is stupid, they're incapable of having any agency of their own. The strange thing is this is exactly the kind of logic Pakistanis themselves buy into with wilfully ignorant joy.


This reminds me of another thread I read recently about blasphemy laws, it was extremely stupid in nature, yet Pakistani members were all over it celebrating with the usual display of self loathing. Typical.

 

[mythbuster]

I have no idea why i get banned or unbanned here, but if you have a problem , take it up with the boys at Aabpara.

I would personally prefer to stay banned. Most of the quality posters have either left on their own or been banned and we are left with low IQ trolls and ignorami who spew out drivel.

If you prefer to stay banned as you claim then why are you rushing back at first opportunity to post gibberish ?...log out and say goodbye , how difficult is that ?

 

[kambhakt]

No it doesn't. It just says the new regime installed after toppling Imran was asking the US to support negotiations on a new program after the previous one had been suspended.

First sentence in my link

"The United States has agreed to help Pakistan negotiate a deal with the International Monetary Fund (IMF), diplomatic sources told Dawn on Sunday."

So yes, the USA has inteferred in the working of the IMF on behalf of Pakistan.

That is very different from asking the IMF to stop an ongoing program.
Anyway, Congress has no direct administrative oversight over the IMF and

Theoretically, no one in the US has direct administrative oversight over the IMF. It is an independent organization. But if that was accurate, Pakistan would not have requested the USA for help.

I have already said that the democrats may prefer to not intefere.

The IMF sets conditions for the continuation of the IMF program. And has periodic reviews. Pakistan does not meet all the conditions.
eg https://www.dawn.com/news/2032485 has 174 amendments to various laws that Pakistan has to make, out of which it has not made a single one. Instead it will request IMF to be lenient.

Decision on leniency is done at the board level. That is the place where the US generally helps. But if the US admin allows the IMF to take independent decision, we do not know which way the board decision will go.

Democracts anyway profess to stand for strong and independent UN institutions.

When the USA admin agreed to help Pakistan, the democrats were in power. There is a significant difference in what is professed and what is acted on.

 

[PK781]

Whether someone or some lobby likes it or not, May 2025 has changed a lot of things. Pakistan is here to stay, no matter what happens in geopolitics.
It does not matter who's in charge in the US, we all know when it comes to our both countries establishments, they work together and cooperate when needed.
The American estb and Govt simply cannot afford to leave Pakistan altogether.

Some people think oh just cuz the Reps lost now Pakistan is going to be bullied or beaten or reduced to a rubble or something.....guess what, it ain't happening. The dems aren't stupid and all these bills are just that, bills. Wake me up the day when something actually happens.......

As our great leader/founder Quaid e Azam (RA) said:
There is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan.

and to those that wish to see us harm, well, it just won't happen, keep dreaming!

 

[Distant_Observer]

Pakistan has not had civilian supremacy since Liaquat Ali Khan was assassinated. So, when you use "we", I assume you are speaking as a spokesperson for the military/hybrid regimes that have ruled Pakistan since then.

Anyway, I am confident that the Democrats would be more sympathetic to the cause of true democracy in Pakistan.

So a new regime in US would punish Pakistan by restricting its access to financing and wanting a good relationship with a sitting US president at the time?

Imran Khan was Trump's idea in the first place. Many epsteinians took positions of power around the world after Trump first took office in 2017. And most of them are either in jail or embezzled in controversy.

Biden didn't even bother calling IK when he was PM and this was his comms with SS so perhaps it will be BAU after Trump leaves.

 

[Meengla]

I'm not sure 100% but I have a feeling things may be different this time around, as there is simply too much going on in geopolitics and the American Govt does not have alot of friends left in the region.....they may, as always, NEED Pakistan even more now as an ally.
Obviously all bets would be off if shit hits the fan, for example, devastating wars grip the region as usual.

Good post.
I was thinking the same: Trump admin suddenly warming up to Pakistan was probably driven by larger American regional foreign policy goals--goals which the Democrats are not going to deviate from. Why would they?
Having said that, the publicly warm US-Pak relations are unlikely to be repeated if/when a Democratic POTUS takes power in 2028. Pakistan still has two years to work with a POTUS Trump and a Pakistani-American who is a Republican party member said 'Make hay while the sun shines'.

 

[Meengla]

The purpose of diplomacy is to take advantage of the moment you're in, which is exactly what Pakistani leadership has done, situations change, it does not mean the Pakistani leaderships thinking will remain static. They will adopt accordingly.
There's a logic in such articles that Pakistan is stupid, they're incapable of having any agency of their own. The strange thing is this is exactly the kind of logic Pakistanis themselves buy into with wilfully ignorant joy.

Agreed.
And it is a common curse in many Pakistani PDF members who think past failures are absolutely going to be repeated in future. Their political biases have blinded them. You can see their posts in every thread.
As you are saying, countries adapt to change. And Pakistan's Foreign Office is one of the brightest spots in Pakistan. I don't fear the new Democratic setup. But as Pakistanis, we should support Senator Chris Van Hoelen to be the next POTUS; I am hearing he might be contemplating to run for the office in 2028. He took a clear stand against India over Kashmir during the 2019 conflict and also takes a clear stand against Israel.

 

[El Sidd]

But as Pakistanis, we should support Senator Chris Van Hoelen to be the next POTUS; I am hearing he might be contemplating to run for the office in 2028. He took a clear stand against India over Kashmir during the 2019 conflict and also takes a clear stand against Israel.

don't know about Pakistanis, but Pakistan support democracy in united states to whatever definition americans can agree with each other upon it.

Americans have enough guns to come to a decision sooner or later.