PAF Conducts successful test of indigenously developed FAAZ BVRAAM

[puttputt]

What is there that we need that can’t be sourced from China and/or Turkey? It’s not 90s or 2000s anymore.

True, but I think even the Turkish ones would only sell us these things under the table as many of them also have business interests in the US.

Point is, we don't have issues accessing these things, but our purchases won't be easy to track, and that's all by design.

Do you all remember when we had the EXIM database and could literally see Saab 2000s, radars, etc., getting registered? The authorities shut a lot of those reporters down so as to cover their activities.

 

[ThoroughPro]

The concerning thing is that we are not getting any news about expansion of production sites. We are making multiple role indigenous weaponary but from the production end, there's net silence like nothing is happening.
Yes there're NASTAP & NRDI like institutions but I don't think these institutions are anything more than simple government funded ghup chup offices.

PA is in the process of printing a detailed list of all weapon production sites with their exact coordiantes to help the enemies easily get this targeting info rather than hiring dumb internet trolls to ask dumb questions on defence forums

 

[Bilal]

True, but I think even the Turkish ones would only sell us these things under the table as many of them also have business interests in the US.

Point is, we don't have issues accessing these things, but our purchases won't be easy to track, and that's all by design.

Do you all remember when we had the EXIM database and could literally see Saab 2000s, radars, etc., getting registered? The authorities shut a lot of those reporters down so as to cover their activities.

Agreed, but much simpler than how it used to be when the suppliers were European without alternative.

 

[puttputt]

Agreed, but much simpler than how it used to be when the suppliers were European without alternative.

The other variable worth tracking is what we develop ourselves. There is technology that is very sensitive and tightly controlled for every country, so the only way to develop it is to create the underlying R&D infrastructure or manufacturing systems ourselves. As the Turks increasingly lean into this to drive their rockets (including SLVs) or ramjet and scramjet programs, we will likely follow or collaborate with them.

In other words, IMO, we'll see the New Labs or PINSTECH equivalent of in-house CNC, instrumentation, and other critical equipment. There's no other way but to develop things we need in the future.

 

[MS Sandhu]

PA is in the process of printing a detailed list of all weapon production sites with their exact coordiantes to help the enemies easily get this targeting info rather than hiring dumb internet trolls to ask dumb questions on defence forums

Kid get into some real life before starting posting shit on internet.
I know most of people here are young college /university level kids and these kind of responses are expected but I would advise you to stay out of things that are beyond your intellectual capacity.

 

[MS Sandhu]

tbh over half of the machinery and equipment Pakistan needs is on US export control lists. In all likelihood, if Pakistan is expanding production, it's doing so by smuggling the equipment. In such cases, we won't hear much or anything about it until the US decides to sanction a bunch of Belarusian firms.

That literally means Pakistani production process is not only painful but slow as hell.
Any disruption in supply chain can push any program years back.There comes the point where simply importing the finished product becomes economically much more viable.

Simply smuggling a specialty machine will not do any good. The machine repair and maintenance, contant parts resupply & other related tasks can only be ensured if there's continues customer & OEM relationship.
If Pakistan is ensuring all this by smuggling, then either they are next level geniuses or simply lying.

 

[K2RULEZ]

What is there that we need that can’t be sourced from China and/or Turkey? It’s not 90s or 2000s anymore.

Exactly. What on earth do we need from Western nations that China and Türkiye cannot provide?

 

[Jaeger]

The entire Faaz family of BVRAAMs, is in reality, the Umkhonto family of BVRAAMs developed by South Africa’s Denel Dynamics.

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[Signalian]

necessary when pl-15 lands in indian hands.

 

[RandomThoughts7]

The entire Faaz family of BVRAAMs, is in reality, the Umkhonto family of BVRAAMs developed by South Africa’s Denel Dynamics.


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TRISHUL

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LOL! Just like the JF17 was a rejected design from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited that was then bought by the PAF...

 

[Jaeger]

LOL! Just like the JF17 was a rejected design from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited that was then bought by the PAF...

It up to you, to believe what you want.

"But if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck"

 

[Michael]

Exactly. What on earth do we need from Western nations that China and Türkiye cannot provide?

Recently, a blogger on Chinese social media—who specializes in the trade of military-related equipment (operating within legal frameworks)—revealed an intriguing development.

A client from a "volatile region" reached out to him through a complex network of intermediaries, seeking to purchase a twin-screw mixer. While the stated purpose of the order was food processing, the technical specifications were highly unusual. Furthermore, the client specifically sought out a dealer of military equipment rather than a conventional manufacturer of food-processing machinery.

Upon careful analysis of the requested technical specifications, it became clear that the equipment was, in fact, a specialized mixer designed for the production of solid fuel used in rocket engines—a type of machinery strictly regulated under Chinese law.

Many items that appear simple on the surface are, in reality, far more complex.