UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people

[Yasser76]

Most Jamaicans have now integrated into white english society and are breeding with working class white english women. The Jamaicans are pretty much dying out. Their offspring are mainly half-castes who are very pro-white european. They are not the force they once were between the 1970s and 1990s.

It's really only uk Pakistanis who are fighting against the white english racists. ALL other non-white groups in the uk including non-Pakistani Muslims are worshipping the white european races and their women folk are desperate and see it as a badge of honour to breed with white european men.

Very true, in 80s and 90s they were very much at the forefront of smacking racists around, less so these days but still some pockets like in St Pauls in Bristol and Brixton in London.

Never seen a Jamaican be racist to anyone

 

[PakistanLVR]

A liberal white woman in the west is not the same as a liberal Muslim woman in the west. They are TWO COMPLETELY different things. Liberal so called "Muslim" women in the west is a code or cover for Muslim women becoming prostitutes for men of other races/religions and then breeding mixed breed sprogs. Liberal White women means women who don't follow traditional conservative values but maintain racial coherence and purity.

You hit the nail on the head. I've been meeting women to court - and I have luck, but I am running into a very specific problem, liberal Pakistani women who drink, has have intimate physical relationships with Whites and non-Muslims/Pakistani men.

I have a very strong filter but still I try to give them the benefit of the doubt so my conscious is clear. I have pre-filters which unfortunately have worked all too well and kinda making me a little comprehension about continuing with the process.

I Talked to someone through a matchmaker recently. Expected more traditional and grounded given the setup, but the lifestyle and history didn’t line up — drinking, dated outside the faith, and overall more progressive than I wanted. Ended it once that was clear.

It reminded me why a lot of us feel a certain way when women from our own background date outside and then look to settle inside. It reads like the outside options were preferred when available and the in-group is the later, safer choice. Doesn’t feel equal, especially when the norms are stricter on our side. Same pattern shows up with a lot of the white and Muslim guys I know; less so in some other groups for different historical and religious reasons.

Anyway, filter worked. Moving on.

It’s general enough that nothing identifies her, while still covering the main points.
Here’s a clean bullet list of the signs:

Visual / Appearance

• Nose ring

• Bleached blonde hair

• Blue or light-colored contacts

• Heavy glam makeup and polished “Instagram” styling

• Revealing or fashion-forward clothing (tight dresses, leather pants, off-shoulder tops, feather pieces, etc.)

• Visible tan lines while claiming to be pious

Photos & Social Presentation

• Pictures in bars, lounges, rooftop bars, or nightlife settings

• High-end shopping or luxury-brand photos

• Frequent “getting dolled up” or party photos

• Travel photos from places like Bali or Miami

Lifestyle & Profile Claims

• Profile says “practicing Muslim” / “faith is my greatest strength” while photos show the opposite aesthetic

• Drinks (even “sometimes” or “a cocktail/wine”)

• Liberal or progressive politics listed

• Sound-bowl, wellness, or new-age class mentions

• Sorority or heavy non-Muslim friend group

Dating & Behavior

• History of dating outside the faith or culture (Hindu, White, etc.)

• Still on dating apps while talking

• Okay with talking to multiple people at once

• Low religious practice (doesn’t pray, treats Islamic boundaries as optional)

• Quick repositioning toward “traditional” or in-group options after a more liberal phase

These are the markers that have repeatedly clustered together for me.

I've learned through my own feelings and reading ton of material on this:
Men often hold women from their own group to a stricter standard on dating outside because those women represent the group’s continuity, status, and norms in a way out-group women do not.

Core reasons

In-group women carry the group’s status.

When a woman from the same background dates outside and later returns to settle inside, many men read it as her having preferred the outside options when they were available, with the in-group man becoming the safer or more practical choice later. That ranking feels like a status loss for the group. An out-group woman’s past doesn’t implicate the group at all.

Loyalty and reciprocity expectations.

Men typically face stronger social penalties for dating outside their group. Women often face fewer. When an in-group woman dates outside and then wants an in-group man for marriage or stability, it can feel like she benefited from looser rules while the men who stayed inside the norms are treated as the default later option. Out-group women were never under those same expectations.

Paternity, selectivity, and long-term investment.

Men are more sensitive to cues about a woman’s past selectivity. A history of out-group relationships raises questions (fair or not) about whether the later in-group choice is genuine preference or a practical fallback. This concern is stronger for in-group women because they are expected to transmit the group’s identity and values. Out-group women don’t carry that same weight.

Group continuity.

In communities that value endogamy (ethnic, religious, or cultural), in-group women are treated as carriers of that continuity. Dating outside and returning is often seen as free-riding on the group’s cohesion. The same behavior from an outsider doesn’t threaten that continuity.

This pattern shows up across many different groups (ethnic, religious, national) because the underlying incentives are similar: in-group women are held to higher loyalty and purity standards precisely because they are viewed as representing the group’s future in a way outsiders are not.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You hit the nail on the head. I've been meeting women to court - and I have luck, but I am running into a very specific problem, liberal Pakistani women who drink, has have intimate physical relationships with Whites and non-Muslims/Pakistani men.

I have a very strong filter but still I try to give them the benefit of the doubt so my conscious is clear. I have pre-filters which unfortunately have worked all too well and kinda making me a little comprehension about continuing with the process.

I Talked to someone through a matchmaker recently. Expected more traditional and grounded given the setup, but the lifestyle and history didn’t line up — drinking, dated outside the faith, and overall more progressive than I wanted. Ended it once that was clear.

It reminded me why a lot of us feel a certain way when women from our own background date outside and then look to settle inside. It reads like the outside options were preferred when available and the in-group is the later, safer choice. Doesn’t feel equal, especially when the norms are stricter on our side. Same pattern shows up with a lot of the white and Muslim guys I know; less so in some other groups for different historical and religious reasons.

Anyway, filter worked. Moving on.

It’s general enough that nothing identifies her, while still covering the main points.
Here’s a clean bullet list of the signs:

Visual / Appearance

• Nose ring

• Bleached blonde hair

• Blue or light-colored contacts

• Heavy glam makeup and polished “Instagram” styling

• Revealing or fashion-forward clothing (tight dresses, leather pants, off-shoulder tops, feather pieces, etc.)

• Visible tan lines while claiming to be pious

Photos & Social Presentation

• Pictures in bars, lounges, rooftop bars, or nightlife settings

• High-end shopping or luxury-brand photos

• Frequent “getting dolled up” or party photos

• Travel photos from places like Bali or Miami

Lifestyle & Profile Claims

• Profile says “practicing Muslim” / “faith is my greatest strength” while photos show the opposite aesthetic

• Drinks (even “sometimes” or “a cocktail/wine”)

• Liberal or progressive politics listed

• Sound-bowl, wellness, or new-age class mentions

• Sorority or heavy non-Muslim friend group

Dating & Behavior

• History of dating outside the faith or culture (Hindu, White, etc.)

• Still on dating apps while talking

• Okay with talking to multiple people at once

• Low religious practice (doesn’t pray, treats Islamic boundaries as optional)

• Quick repositioning toward “traditional” or in-group options after a more liberal phase

These are the markers that have repeatedly clustered together for me.

I've learned through my own feelings and reading ton of material on this:
Men often hold women from their own group to a stricter standard on dating outside because those women represent the group’s continuity, status, and norms in a way out-group women do not.

Core reasons

In-group women carry the group’s status.

When a woman from the same background dates outside and later returns to settle inside, many men read it as her having preferred the outside options when they were available, with the in-group man becoming the safer or more practical choice later. That ranking feels like a status loss for the group. An out-group woman’s past doesn’t implicate the group at all.

Loyalty and reciprocity expectations.

Men typically face stronger social penalties for dating outside their group. Women often face fewer. When an in-group woman dates outside and then wants an in-group man for marriage or stability, it can feel like she benefited from looser rules while the men who stayed inside the norms are treated as the default later option. Out-group women were never under those same expectations.

Paternity, selectivity, and long-term investment.

Men are more sensitive to cues about a woman’s past selectivity. A history of out-group relationships raises questions (fair or not) about whether the later in-group choice is genuine preference or a practical fallback. This concern is stronger for in-group women because they are expected to transmit the group’s identity and values. Out-group women don’t carry that same weight.

Group continuity.

In communities that value endogamy (ethnic, religious, or cultural), in-group women are treated as carriers of that continuity. Dating outside and returning is often seen as free-riding on the group’s cohesion. The same behavior from an outsider doesn’t threaten that continuity.

This pattern shows up across many different groups (ethnic, religious, national) because the underlying incentives are similar: in-group women are held to higher loyalty and purity standards precisely because they are viewed as representing the group’s future in a way outsiders are not.

Women in general who date outside their race and breed mixed race offspring are completely discarded, ruined, miserable and thrown by the way side by the age of about 45. Their lives are filled with regret, no future and misery. Some of these types then try to become religious or jump on some left-wing cause.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Jamaicans also fight back. No doubt. Others are subservient.

Pakistanis and Jamaicans smash the shit out of these white racist thugs. That is also the reason why these flagshaggers keep pointing fingers at us.

Nowadays jamaicans have assimilated into white english society and most of their men by and large have ended up breeding with white working-class english women. Their mixed race offspring are very pro-white and anti-Muslim. The jamaicans and their once vibrant communities across the uk have pretty much died out.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Nowadays jamaicans have assimilated into white english society aand most of their men by and large have ended up breeding with white working-class english women. Their mixed race offspring are very pro-white and anti-Muslim. The jamaicans and their once vibrant communities across the uk have pretty much died out.

In North America, they are very much respected I think. Also due to the fact that they kind stick to their own and don't try to chase White women - which earns them a lot of respect (I could understand why).

 

[Yasser76]

Nowadays jamaicans have assimilated into white english society aand most of their men by and large have ended up breeding with white working-class english women. Their mixed race offspring are very pro-white and anti-Muslim. The jamaicans and their once vibrant communities across the uk have pretty much died out.

Nah, there are still some very strong Jamaican communities still around, not as many as there used to be but there are.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

In North America, they are very much respected I think. Also due to the fact that they kind stick to their own and don't try to chase White women - which earns them a lot of respect (I could understand why).

Here in the uk, they are dying and the majority of their offspring are the result of black jamaican men breeding with white working class english women.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Nah, there are still some very strong Jamaican communities still around, not as many as there used to be but there are.

In harlesdan, Ladbroke Grove and brixton in London where the jamaicans had a strong presence up until the 1990s, they seem to have all but disappeared.

 

[RescueRanger]

You hit the nail on the head. I've been meeting women to court - and I have luck, but I am running into a very specific problem, liberal Pakistani women who drink, has have intimate physical relationships with Whites and non-Muslims/Pakistani men.

I have a very strong filter but still I try to give them the benefit of the doubt so my conscious is clear. I have pre-filters which unfortunately have worked all too well and kinda making me a little comprehension about continuing with the process.

I Talked to someone through a matchmaker recently. Expected more traditional and grounded given the setup, but the lifestyle and history didn’t line up — drinking, dated outside the faith, and overall more progressive than I wanted. Ended it once that was clear.

It reminded me why a lot of us feel a certain way when women from our own background date outside and then look to settle inside. It reads like the outside options were preferred when available and the in-group is the later, safer choice. Doesn’t feel equal, especially when the norms are stricter on our side. Same pattern shows up with a lot of the white and Muslim guys I know; less so in some other groups for different historical and religious reasons.

Anyway, filter worked. Moving on.

It’s general enough that nothing identifies her, while still covering the main points.
Here’s a clean bullet list of the signs:

Visual / Appearance

• Nose ring

• Bleached blonde hair

• Blue or light-colored contacts

• Heavy glam makeup and polished “Instagram” styling

• Revealing or fashion-forward clothing (tight dresses, leather pants, off-shoulder tops, feather pieces, etc.)

• Visible tan lines while claiming to be pious

Photos & Social Presentation

• Pictures in bars, lounges, rooftop bars, or nightlife settings

• High-end shopping or luxury-brand photos

• Frequent “getting dolled up” or party photos

• Travel photos from places like Bali or Miami

Lifestyle & Profile Claims

• Profile says “practicing Muslim” / “faith is my greatest strength” while photos show the opposite aesthetic

• Drinks (even “sometimes” or “a cocktail/wine”)

• Liberal or progressive politics listed

• Sound-bowl, wellness, or new-age class mentions

• Sorority or heavy non-Muslim friend group

Dating & Behavior

• History of dating outside the faith or culture (Hindu, White, etc.)

• Still on dating apps while talking

• Okay with talking to multiple people at once

• Low religious practice (doesn’t pray, treats Islamic boundaries as optional)

• Quick repositioning toward “traditional” or in-group options after a more liberal phase

These are the markers that have repeatedly clustered together for me.

I've learned through my own feelings and reading ton of material on this:
Men often hold women from their own group to a stricter standard on dating outside because those women represent the group’s continuity, status, and norms in a way out-group women do not.

Core reasons

In-group women carry the group’s status.

When a woman from the same background dates outside and later returns to settle inside, many men read it as her having preferred the outside options when they were available, with the in-group man becoming the safer or more practical choice later. That ranking feels like a status loss for the group. An out-group woman’s past doesn’t implicate the group at all.

Loyalty and reciprocity expectations.

Men typically face stronger social penalties for dating outside their group. Women often face fewer. When an in-group woman dates outside and then wants an in-group man for marriage or stability, it can feel like she benefited from looser rules while the men who stayed inside the norms are treated as the default later option. Out-group women were never under those same expectations.

Paternity, selectivity, and long-term investment.

Men are more sensitive to cues about a woman’s past selectivity. A history of out-group relationships raises questions (fair or not) about whether the later in-group choice is genuine preference or a practical fallback. This concern is stronger for in-group women because they are expected to transmit the group’s identity and values. Out-group women don’t carry that same weight.

Group continuity.

In communities that value endogamy (ethnic, religious, or cultural), in-group women are treated as carriers of that continuity. Dating outside and returning is often seen as free-riding on the group’s cohesion. The same behavior from an outsider doesn’t threaten that continuity.

This pattern shows up across many different groups (ethnic, religious, national) because the underlying incentives are similar: in-group women are held to higher loyalty and purity standards precisely because they are viewed as representing the group’s future in a way outsiders are not.

Bahi... There is a lot to digest in this post of yours where to begin:

1. No one gives us a certificate to determine who is a Muslim and who isn't. What one self proclaimed Muslim does and what another does is between them and god.

2. You have self disclosed that you are using an app or website to find a partner, regardless of filter the type of people you will encounter will not fit the type of ideal you have pictured in your mind of your ideal woman.

3. You seem to be obsessed with physical appearance and preference in terms of lifestyle and appearance. This is a red flag for anyone... If you are seeking a person that suits a very fine list, brother you will never find your perfect woman (never) because they don't exist.

4. Life partners are humans and humans come with baggage, the key to a successful life is not digging too much into the past and focusing on how you and other party can be compatible and make a life together.

5. Tan lines, holidays abroad, choice in clothing and any misadventures in their past is in the past, if you are judging someone based on this alone, just remember that "judge not lest ye be judged".

6. On the subject of piety, this is a human construct, no one can measure piety as it is a deeply personal relationship between the servant and the creator, if you are seeking a deeply traditional and pious women visit a mosque and ask an imam not a dating website.

7. A lot of men seem to dump on womens life choices, we have all seen the meme:


Ask yourself doesn't this apply to men too? Our men are no different who are happy to date a non-muslim for time pass - yet somehow when it comes to settling down they want a saint...

Anyway all this is rather an issue topic to discuss.

 

[Yasser76]

In harlesdan, Ladbroke Grove and brixton in London where the jamaicans had a strong presence up until the 1990s, they seem to have all but disappeared.

A lot of those areas in London became very gentrified, it was as much about economics as it was about race mixing or community cohesion I guess.

Compare what it cost to buy a house in those areas in 1980s to now, it is eye watering man.

My father bought big 5 bedroom smart Victorian house in Camden in late 70s. House was around £18,000, his salary was £15,000 (decent for back then). Mortgage paid off in 3 years.

Same place now would cost around £2 Million to £2.5 Million. No chance for me to buy same type of property in Camden as my father did.

This happened to many communities in London , Irish, Bengalis, Pakistanis, Greek, Turk Cypriot

 

[PakistanLVR]

Bahi... There is a lot to digest in this post of yours where to begin:

1. No one gives us a certificate to determine who is a Muslim and who isn't. What one self proclaimed Muslim does and what another does is between them and god.

2. You have self disclosed that you are using an app or website to find a partner, regardless of filter the type of people you will encounter will not fit the type of ideal you have pictured in your mind of your ideal woman.

3. You seem to be obsessed with physical appearance and preference in terms of lifestyle and appearance. This is a red flag for anyone... If you are seeking a person that suits a very fine list, brother you will never find your perfect woman (never) because they don't exist.

4. Life partners are humans and humans come with baggage, the key to a successful life is not digging too much into the past and focusing on how you and other party can be compatible and make a life together.

5. Tan lines, holidays abroad, choice in clothing and any misadventures in their past is in the past, if you are judging someone based on this alone, just remember that "judge not lest ye be judged".

6. On the subject of piety, this is a human construct, no one can measure piety as it is a deeply personal relationship between the servant and the creator, if you are seeking a deeply traditional and pious women visit a mosque and ask an imam not a dating website.

7. A lot of men seem to dump on womens life choices, we have all seen the meme:

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Ask yourself doesn't this apply to men too? Our men are no different who are happy to date a non-muslim for time pass - yet somehow when it comes to settling down they want a saint...

Anyway all this is rather an issue topic to discuss.

Thank you for your reply. I will fully digest your point and will likely try to reply via DM

 

[Yasser76]

Bahi... There is a lot to digest in this post of yours where to begin:

1. No one gives us a certificate to determine who is a Muslim and who isn't. What one self proclaimed Muslim does and what another does is between them and god.

2. You have self disclosed that you are using an app or website to find a partner, regardless of filter the type of people you will encounter will not fit the type of ideal you have pictured in your mind of your ideal woman.

3. You seem to be obsessed with physical appearance and preference in terms of lifestyle and appearance. This is a red flag for anyone... If you are seeking a person that suits a very fine list, brother you will never find your perfect woman (never) because they don't exist.

4. Life partners are humans and humans come with baggage, the key to a successful life is not digging too much into the past and focusing on how you and other party can be compatible and make a life together.

5. Tan lines, holidays abroad, choice in clothing and any misadventures in their past is in the past, if you are judging someone based on this alone, just remember that "judge not lest ye be judged".

6. On the subject of piety, this is a human construct, no one can measure piety as it is a deeply personal relationship between the servant and the creator, if you are seeking a deeply traditional and pious women visit a mosque and ask an imam not a dating website.

7. A lot of men seem to dump on womens life choices, we have all seen the meme:

View attachment 222985
Ask yourself doesn't this apply to men too? Our men are no different who are happy to date a non-muslim for time pass - yet somehow when it comes to settling down they want a saint...

Anyway all this is rather an issue topic to discuss.

100% spot on post yaar

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bahi... There is a lot to digest in this post of yours where to begin:

1. No one gives us a certificate to determine who is a Muslim and who isn't. What one self proclaimed Muslim does and what another does is between them and god.

2. You have self disclosed that you are using an app or website to find a partner, regardless of filter the type of people you will encounter will not fit the type of ideal you have pictured in your mind of your ideal woman.

3. You seem to be obsessed with physical appearance and preference in terms of lifestyle and appearance. This is a red flag for anyone... If you are seeking a person that suits a very fine list, brother you will never find your perfect woman (never) because they don't exist.

4. Life partners are humans and humans come with baggage, the key to a successful life is not digging too much into the past and focusing on how you and other party can be compatible and make a life together.

5. Tan lines, holidays abroad, choice in clothing and any misadventures in their past is in the past, if you are judging someone based on this alone, just remember that "judge not lest ye be judged".

6. On the subject of piety, this is a human construct, no one can measure piety as it is a deeply personal relationship between the servant and the creator, if you are seeking a deeply traditional and pious women visit a mosque and ask an imam not a dating website.

7. A lot of men seem to dump on womens life choices, we have all seen the meme:

View attachment 222985
Ask yourself doesn't this apply to men too? Our men are no different who are happy to date a non-muslim for time pass - yet somehow when it comes to settling down they want a saint...

Anyway all this is rather an issue topic to discuss.

Would you be willing to marry and start a family with a Muslim woman who has had black, white and other non-Muslim sexual partners? By doing so, a man loses his self-respect, dignity and becomes a cuck. The reality is, a woman can be defiled in a way that a man can never be. Women who race-mix make it look to the other younger women from the community that it is okay to become prostitutes for men of other races and religions. This eventually destroys and defiles the community.

 

[RescueRanger]

Would you be willing to marry and start a family with a Muslim woman who has had black, white and other non-Muslim sexual partners?

Yes.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes.

...........there is NOTHING more to be said.