Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

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If you're requesting the world fight on behalf of you then why do you boast about being a powerful independent country ?

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Persian Gulf said:
precisely striking strategic IAF air base deep inside Israel with ballistic missiles, sure eyewash, whatever you want to call it.
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It would have been a Greta move if it was successful and had clear objectives

Neither of which happened
At worst this was pre-planned white wash (message relayed like Iraq strikes) and at best a complete operational failure that should create shock waves in Iran about their military arsenal(99% interception rate is not bad .it's ridiculously bad)
 
ziaulislam said:
Jordan has USA patriot systems
I won't be surprised if they are under network and self fire if turned on

Jordan is nothing but vessel state
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Nah, Jordanian fighter jets also did the work, they knew

It's not safe to activate SAM systems like that because of other air traffic
 
Persian Gulf said:
you quoted this post:



to say "the Americans are saying they will support the Israelis on this"

... but yes we agree USA will not assist Israel with any retaliation. Israel knows it cannot go to war with Iran without the USA.
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Look,I don't know what Americans want to do. But I don't think they want to open a second front while the Russians are slowly winning in Ukraine.
 
ziaulislam said:
It would have been a Greta move if it was successful and had clear objectives

Neither of which happened
At worst this was pre-planned white wash (message relayed like Iraq strikes) and at best a complete operational failure that should create shock waves in Iran about their military arsenal(99% interception rate is not bad .it's ridiculously bad)
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firstly we do not accept israeli statistics about interception rates. secondly they do not even claim that interception % against ballistic missiles. thirdly that was interception rate by USA + UK + France + Israel + Jordan. fourthly the objective was to strike the IAF base which launched the F-35s which attacked the Iranian consulate building, and that was clearly achieved as per video footage and satellite imagery.
 
There will be a lot of lessons learnt from last nights actions by alot of countries.

a - Iran will up the tempo of missiles with the expectation of more direct conflict. Current stock levels/production rates are not important as Iran will react to this. Current production levels are to maintain capability but for conflict - that capability will upped to surge levels.
b - review how they can stop so many being detected/intercepted - possibly stealth shaping with RCS paint ?
c - Systems that successfully attached the airbases - they will be making alot more of those for sure.

This was the first real world conflict of multi-layered defence systems against multi-layered attack systems and on the face of it - it looks like Israel "won" but when you consider it is $30 million versus $1billion to defend - i think some people need to rethink their strategy.

I do need think Iran needs to rebuild/rethink their offensive strategy. Would the USAF/RAF have shot down Iranian aircraft if they were on an offensive strike mission ?

The above two statements are not a contradiction!
 
So essentially Israel started a war by directly attacking Iran, Iran responding and now Israel is planning to respond resulting in an exchange I.e. war. All the while it is trying to drag the West into this conflict to do the heavy lifting for them. So how do American taxpayers (not the religious crazies) but normal people feel about this? Do you want to go to a large war for Israel who btw started this and have been arrogant with the whole region. Iran is no joke and it has pacts with Russia and China, is it worth it?
 
The coping mechanism of Israel supporters is very intriguing and complex

Normal mechanism
- Denial
- Truth
- Cope with it

Israel supporters
- Denial
- Truth and proofs
- Denial
- More proofs
- Denial and send Israeli farms posts
- More denial and believes the IDF
- Continue denial besides sat and image proofs
- Post random bullshit from Israeli accounts such as the trunk of a missile

The difference is that the cope mechanism is not functional at the end for the second mechanism

This will likely take a year for the cope mechanism to finish
 
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they are already produced in massive numbers


Rezvan was likely used, its engine was found in the debris (similar engine to Emad so hard to say for sure)
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I say put those factories deep beneath the ground, so Israel may never have any good sleep.
 
I have been listening to American prepper channels and they are openly calling to nuke Iran. They are truly crazy and are saying this is all written in the Bible. Is this not religious extremism then I don't know what is. It makes them no different from the Muslim extremists but one is good the other is bad, okay... nice narrative. This is why the Muslim world needs to unite against the countries who hate you, because they are trying to destroy you through war, narratives, installing people like the kind of Jordan, keeping you poor, demonizing EVERYTHING your religion stands for so my advise is Iran if they attack you go 100% on them and don't hold back.
 
CrniLabud said:
I have been listening to American prepper channels and they are openly calling to nuke Iran. They are truly crazy and are saying this is all written in the Bible. Is this not religious extremism then I don't know what is. It makes them no different from the Muslim extremists but one is good the other is bad, okay... nice narrative. This is why the Muslim world needs to unite against the countries who hate you, because they are trying to destroy you through war, narratives, installing people like the kind of Jordan, keeping you poor, demonizing EVERYTHING your religion stands for so my advise is Iran if they attack you go 100% on them and don't hold back.
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Israel existence is based on biblical claims and their acts based on biblical claims, in fact it is based on religion and biblical quotes

So not surprised to see evangelical Americans defend Israel by willing to give their life for its existence
 
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