muhammed45
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The whole thread is a joke. Ironically Hyperwar is a Greek originated phrase. Maybe the guy is pointing to his own routes?!
Turkiye Builds A Hyperwar Capable Military ( unrivaled in the region )
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MMM-E
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Not only SIPER Block-3 ( GUMS ) for Ballisitc Missile Defense System
TUBITAK-SAGE develops Ramjet powered GOKHAN air to air Missile
and TUBITAK says we will develop Ballistic Missile interceptor over the GOKHAN Missile
Gürcan Okumus, Director of TUBITAK-SAGE (Turkish Defense Industries Research and Development Institute) the T0 phase for the GOKHAN Missile has begun and that it can be an effective missile against ballistic targets in the advanced stages
Source : https://www.turkishdefencenews.com/turkey-carries-out-ramjet-missile-studies/
Another System based on GOKDOGAN Air to Air Missile
similar concept to American NASAMS
GOKDEMIR AD System
I remember celebrating small drones and indigenous handguns produced in Türkiye. Time really flies by, eight years are nothing.
Nuffle
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I didn't say they abandoned it, I said they are losing the relevance they had before, particularly the USAF which depends entirely on the US Navy for SEAD/DEAD, this is particularly aimed at the USAF's capabilities.Firstly, US never dropped LBJ/MBJ/HBJ path, here they are doubling down on development of LBJ
Next Generation Jammer – Low Band (NGJ-LB)
Delivering extended stand-off range, simultaneous multiple-target engagement, and greater electronic attack effectiveness.www.l3harris.com
Here it is Growler with SEAD/DEAD configuration
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What are you talking about, even IAF is doing radar fingerprinting matching since decade and half now for long range radar detection. And then to launch DPSA stike or DEW strike , and for doing DPSA LBJ/MBJ/HBJ become more important.
Nothing new, as I said before, even IAF is doing that for a decade now.
F-35 is not optimized for UHF/S/L-band radars, which majority of ground radars going to be.
Indeed, but you need dual mode seeker, combining IIR and PHH. Or you have to launch 2 missiles with different seekers for mission success.
If you start employing such tactics from Day 1 of war, you dont going to be left with sorties to launch other missions. JASSM type missiles are never meant for SEAD/DEAD ops, rather targeting command & control nodes.
SEAD missions are assigned to the EA-18G in the USN, but DEAD are from all strike package assets, including Tomahawks and JASSMs.
Strictly speaking, the USAF does not have specific aircraft for SEAD missions. It adopts MALD (including the J, with jamming capability) and HARM decoy missiles launched by the F-16, B-52 and F-15, but does not have broad electronic attack capabilities and only uses self-protection ECM in the form of internal devices , towed and external cocoons.
Eventually, the USAF operates together with the USN's EA-18G, which provides electronic attack.
The USMC adopted the EA-6 with electronic attack capabilities but they were withdrawn. What is intended is that the USMC's F-35Cs can carry the NGJ pods that will also be adopted by the USN's EA-18Gs.
When CHAMP is operating, it would be a DEAD system since, if used against an IADS, it has the potential to cause the physical destruction of electronic systems, neutralizing them definitively and not temporarily, as in a conventional electronic attack.
Today, SEAD and DEAD operations are increasingly confusing as electronic pulses can permanently damage electronic systems and some anti-radar missiles have a terminal seeker that, even with the radar turned off, the missile hits.
And look, you said it exactly like this:
Yes. The USAF uses it as the attack package. Even today's hypersonic missiles are fully aimed at high-value targets to attack in critical time and this includes all early warning radars, aerial scanning and target acquisition of an enemy IADS.
The Gulf War itself is an example of this. The effects of joint SEAD were achieved by cruise missile launches from maritime assets and multiple launch rocket systems.
There is a whole bibliography to read:
Another book to read:
Storming Camicus: Rolling Back the IADS in 2030
Between others.
Other example:
CENTCOM: USS Carney Launched Tomahawk Land Attack Missile Against Houthi Radar Site - USNI News
USS Carney (DDG-64) launched a Tomahawk Land Attack Missile against a Houthi radar site in Yemen at 3:45 a.m. local time Saturday, U.S. Central Command announced in a Friday night release. The strike comes the day after the U.S. and United Kingdom launched a series of strikes across 28 locations...
news.usni.org
But if you still insist, Gen. James B. Hecker allegedly stated that USAFE uses the JASSM-ER as a vector part of the strike package for a SEAD/DEAD mission.
USAFE Boss Says Counter-IADS is His Top Priority and Lesson from Ukraine
Gen. James Hecker says countering air defenses (counter-IADS) is his top priority, along with equipping air bases to service NATO aircraft.
www.airandspaceforces.com
Bilal
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Well it was known. It seems to be a joint product at best or just some design work share task given to NASTP for offset at worse.
NASTP if everything goes right will come of age by 2030. For now it’s ok if they get exposed to ideas and technologies like this.
hodor
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Do you like to tag Iranians and stir things up?
MMM-E
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60 Turkish F-16s already equipped with SPEWS-2 self protection electronic warfare suite and HARM anti-radiation Missiles for SEAD-DEAD role
and Turkish MEDPOD Jamming Pod
Turkiye buys 40 new F-16V and modernize 230 F-16s to block70 standard
AN/APG-83 AESA Radar
AN/ALQ-257 Integrated Viper Electronic Warfare Suite (IVEWS)
Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar
Aselsan FEWS Electronic Warfare Suite
and 952 AIM-120C-8 Air-to-Air Missiles ..... 160 km
also 100 AGM-88E anti-radiation Missiles
Turkish GOKHAN ramjet powered long range Air to Air Missile .... under development
Turkish AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missile .... under development
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Mehmed Bey
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Ironically? This guy is not a Greek. He is Serb , that fact , both me and Mulj established in the old forum.
Ah , it is so hilarious that this unemployable Turks, keeps annoying " the experts " . Seemingly in today's world, the fools are really the smartest one.
MMM-E
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JASSM-ER is a IIR guided cruise Missile
and Indian guy laughing at Turkish SOM-J IIR guided cruise Missile for SEAD-DEAD role
Turkish Air Force getting ANKA-3 flying wing stealth UCAV
AESA Radar
LoS/BLOS (Satellite Control) capabilities
SEAD/DEAD role
Strategic strike
Deep strike
-- Full of composite material
-- Internal weapon bay
-- The exhaust will be inside the body to reduce its RCS
-- The infrared trace will be reduced by mixing the cold air with the hot air of the engine
-- The V-shaped aircraft does not have horizontal and vertical stabilisation to reduce RCS
to carry KUZGUN-TJ and SOM-J Missiles in internal weapon bay
KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
Also 20 KAAN Fighter Jets in 2028
to carry 275 km SOM-J stealth Cruise Missiles in internal weapon bay for SEAD-DEAD role
Also Fighter Jets like F-15 , F-16 , RAFALE , MIG-29M2 , SU-30 , SU-35 will have no chance against stealth KAAN Fighter Jets in BVR combat
Indian and Iranian guys only can dream about these technologies
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Foinikas
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You keep avoiding to reply to other people's comments and notes. Are you only looking for an audience to advertise Turkish equipment without having anyone question you?
Foinikas
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Ah again with this nonsense. You insist that I'm a Serb. If I use some slang in another language,people lose it.
Foinikas
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I like to tag Iranians to compare the equipment and see if the big claims of this guy are valid or not. Most of the time it's just bragging about Turkish equipment without accepting any criticism or comments from others.
Nuffle
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You don't even need to extrapolate to the USA.
Just look at Ukraine and see how Storm Shadow can be used for a SEAD/DEAD, but Ukraine's inability to locate and detect a Russian IADS clearly limits the attack options, the HARMs (more easily intercepted by the Russian IADS) clearly played a lesser role in relevance to Storm Shadows.
