Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

[hussain0216]

wrong.. but it was a reaction. Look, the law is white and black but the implementation considers background and context.

Agreed,,

But once a line is broken by protestors and the representative of the state is treated like that

Then the equation changes, now you have to respond to the challenge to state security and apparatus

Now the protestors have become tools of the enemies of Pakistan even if they did not intend to

Now the elements who continued to push for riots EVEN THOUGH agreement had been reached, need to face the consequences of insurrection and sedition

 

[KingQamaR]

I saw policemen thrown off the side of some hill or cliff or something, beaten by mobs
What do you want security to do after that chaos

On media I watched a Punjabi police officers pumping rounds of tear gas into a class room full of terrified crying school girls. We then wonder why local get angry and respond with violence.

 

[tman786]

I saw policemen thrown off the side of some hill or cliff or something, beaten by mobs
What do you want security to do after that chaos

Retreat and negotiate.

I noticed you excluded key items from the timeline before this incident. Brutal attacks on peaceful protestors, tear gassing with expired shells, hospitalisation of many including young girls in a school. Then night raids against protesters at 3am, humiliation of family members and threats of rape of girls and women.

Maybe put yourself in their shoes for a minute and then consider your response in this situation.

Police is out of control and run by thugs and criminals from Punjab.

 

[Dalit]

You're a fucking disgrace for an administrator. People's demands have been met, they are being given subsidies for being lazy and incompetent. They are still agitating, the state should now hammer then hard.

You can't do shit. You are in the business of agitating everyone. That's it. The problem for you guys is that at this rate no sympathisers will be left for your cause. The question is, what is the end goal here? Do you want to lock up people one by one? Do you intend to agitate people and groups? The amount of opposition is growing manifold.

 

[Waz]

The latter. Elders migrated from IoK at partition, our family settled in Punjab, but the rest stayed in AJK.

Acha mashallah. You're the first I've met who has an even mix of family from AJK and Punjab. Usually our brothers who came from the Indian side all settled in Punjab, usually Sialkot and Lahore.

They've been doing the same crap in Balochistan and FATA for long.

Now that they have started doing it in mainland Pakistan, they are learning the fallacies of their ways.

The only utility AJK gave them was as a rallying point against India, easy people to radicalize, and power generation. Otherwise in ko bas dabayi rakho aur yeh bas chup ho kar waqt guzartay rahain gay.

Day by day I am amazed at the absence of strategic foresight of our ruling class. I actually used to think way back that these people were actually smart.

Yep the same bigoted policies against the 'savages'. With mainland Pakistan now seeing the same it's snowballing to a massive avalanche. The deaths today will just add to the momentum.
You said it one, all these bigots have ever seen us is as a power source and a buffer against India.
There never was any strategic foresight to begin with.

 

[Waz]

After Kashmir Rawalpindi is boiling

What happening in Pindi bro? The people have close links to us in AJK.

 

[Jango]

Acha mashallah. You're the first I've met who has an even mix of family from AJK and Punjab. Usually our brothers who came from the Indian side all settled in Punjab, usually Sialkot and Lahore.

It's a long story haha, most people get confused once I tell them the whole story! We are settled close to one of those cities, about 45 min away

 

[Goenitz]

The BJP politicians are laughing their heads off at how the so called 'government' is treating AJK. They started this blood filled tamasha, not our people.

The AJK PM and his cabinet is sitting in Islamabad... He has been ridiculing public since last year when the demands were first put forward, He said "death is free (like air) but electricity cannot be"

 

[Dalit]

The BJP politicians are laughing their heads off at how the so called 'government' is treating AJK. They started this blood filled tamasha, not our people.

It is exactly the same story all over again. Out of nowhere PTI and Imran Khan became the enemy overnight. We are seeing exactly the same thing happen in AJK. All of a sudden AJK people who are demanding their rights are evil and the enemy. Just overnight. This is all by design and with a clear intent. PML-N thugs are waging an unwinnable crusade.

 

[Jango]

You can't do shit. You are in the business if agitating everyone. That's it. The problem for you guys is that at this rate no sympathisers will be left for your cause. The question is, what is the end goal here? Do you want lock up people one by one? Do you intend to agitate people and groups? The amount of opposition is growing manifold.

Nhn samajh aye gi inhain yeh baat.

They think mulk ka har banda jo in kay khilaf bolta hai ghaddar hai, Indian agent hai, ya deshatgard hai.

Sab ko pakro, maro, aghwa karo, that's all they know.

 

[Jango]

The AJK PM and his cabinet is sitting in Islamabad... He has been ridiculing public since last year when the demands were first put forward, He said "death is free (like air) but electricity cannot be"

I'd also do that if I was installed by the establishment and not by actual votes. Can't blame the guy.

 

[Waz]

The AJK PM and his cabinet is sitting in Islamabad... He has been ridiculing public since last year when the demands were first put forward, He said "death is free (like air) but electricity cannot be"

They've been caste aside bro. Only now are talks happening, meanwhile we have the rangers committing violence.

 

[Goenitz]

Agreed,,

But once a line is broken by protestors and the representative of the state is treated like that

Then the equation changes, now you have to respond to the challenge to state security and apparatus

Now the protestors have become tools of the enemies of Pakistan even if they did not intend to

Now the elements who continued to push for riots EVEN THOUGH agreement had been reached, need to face the consequences of insurrection and sedition

Yes, as people and security forces have lost lives
Not necessarily as it is not a planned and continue armed struggle. Still, the siutaion can be quenched.
It is govt job to prevent Pakistanis from falling into the hands of the enemy. While we are pushing them towards the enemy.
Not reached. It is a hog wash and propaganda. Even if it was reached people are not believing as a previous agreement was finalised in Jan, which was violated in Feb.

 

[Waz]

It is exactly the same story all over again. Out of nowhere PTI and Imran Khan became the enemy overnight. We are seeing exactly the same thing happen in AJK. All of a sudden AJK people who are demanding their rights are evil and the enemy. Just overnight. This is all by design and with a clear intent. PML-N thugs are waging an unwinnable crusade.

That's it bro everyone has the same formula fed to them;
No talks, you are traitors.
Send force .
They are anti-state.
Kill them all.

 

[Awwad]

It's indeed all notorious mafias vs. military command in Pakistan at present.

Dickhead, its the military command that is the root cause of all problems. From regime change to mandate robbery. Problems will only worsen if nation's mandate & nation's voice is ignored. Everything will go south, if nation's mandate will not be respected. There's only one solution that is to respect the mandate. People of Pakistan unanimously have spoken loud & clear that who they consider as true leader of the nation. But COAS has done opposite. True leader is in jail on hilarious cases, and looters and nation's rejected people are in power. People of Pakistan absolutely rejected PMLN, even their rat like leader Nawaz lost his own seats and COAS has given them the power. Ofcourse there won't be any stability or any economic progress with such horrible & horrific actions.