Clashes with Afghan Taliban break out again: Taliban removing fence and covering for TTP infiltration

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

It does not work that way.

You can drop as.many bombs within your territory but you can't do on other borders.

You don't want a permanent enemy who is much capable in gorilla war. Pakistan struggling with a few armed people and it causing many Pakistanis soldiers being killed.. it will be disaster if you make a organisation alike Taliban your enemy.

Hello - I think you are failing to comprehend my point here - a guerilla war is fought on your *own territory*.

With a secure border - they can't fight a guerilla war inside another country. You need a conventional force to cross over.

 

[Mrc]

Once you have secured the border with proper infrastructure - Afghans don't have the potential to go on an offensive - they are guerilla fighters. So they'll be limited. Just screaming at the border trying to cross.

So you can strike the infrastructure/camps with impunity whenever you want. Just secure your border properly first.

They are already doing what's pretty much their level best in tribal areas, that's the reason clash is happening in first place

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Hello - I think you are failing to comprehend my point here - a guerilla war is fought on your *own territory*.

With a secure border - they can't fight a guerilla war inside another country. You need a conventional force to cross over.

You didn't get it..

The real question is " how much control you have in tribal areas"?

Are you sure - borders are secure??

 

[Dalit]

It does means you can cross the border and attack.

Will they going to tolerate?

1 -2 incidents are fine but you can't do regularly, it will turn Afghanistan as permanent enemy and every one's know, how they are capable to harm.

Afghanistan like India is a permanent enemy of Pakistan. Taliban or no Taliban.

 

[hussain0216]

Afghans are a enemy just as bad as the Hindus

Get them out of the country, get moving, throw them out and keep the border secure

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Afghanistan like India is a permanent enemy of Pakistan. Taliban or no Taliban.

Best wishes against Taliban..

Afghans are a enemy just as bad as the Hindus

Get them out of the country, get moving, throw them out and keep the border secure

Say Indians, not Hindu... Atleast respect your minorities

 

[hussain0216]

Best wishes against Taliban..

Say Indians, not Hindu... Atleast respect your minorities

Honestly we don't have that much of a problem with general indians, even abroad you might find something in common

The enemy is the Hindu'tva, and that enemy is a enemy not just to Pakistani, Bangladeshi but even hundreds of millions of Indians

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Honestly we don't have that much of a problem with general indians, even abroad you might find something in common

The enemy is the Hindu'tva, and that enemy is a enemy not just to Pakistani, Bangladeshi but even hundreds of millions of Indians

Seriously, man!!!

I would finish here by saying that such mentality never helps pakistan.in past 75 years, military leadership has caused more issues in Pakistan due to bad policies and blunders. Why military leadership in Pakistan? The answer is very simple: because insecurity due to bad relationships with neighbors and obsession with kashmir

hate or don't hate hindutva- it's doesn't make difference

Pakistan must learn from china - how to handle foreign policies, trade, business etc with neighbours and other countries.......

There is not only - black and white colours available - friend or enemy - there are many colours - it does same applies to relationship with others... I don't believe you will get it.. good day

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

Why don't we just bomb the shiit out of their posts in that region.
Caz few hundred casuality and they will learn

Because of strategic depth constraints, you want understand this is next level.

 

[RealNapster]

When Soviet and USA, can't win against Afghanistan, Pakistan has no chance

Pakistan can not win against Afghanistan with an occupying force, but Pakistan can certainly bomb the shit out of it and cripple it to a point where it can not pose serious threat to Pakistan.

Take example of PAF using F-16s and JF-17s to destroy all the runways, helicopters, jets, military bases, MRAPs, artillery etc. They will have only one option left, attacking a nuclear state using foot soldiers with AK-47s and M-4/16s .

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

Best wishes against Taliban..

Say Indians, not Hindu... Atleast respect your minorities

Really, you expect that from him

 

[SecularNationalist]

Because Pakistan military is well aware about the situation.

When Soviet and USA, can't win against Afghanistan, Pakistan has no chance.

It will be disaster for Pakistan and situation will be worst than 2000s in Pakistan if they go fully offensive.

Going strongly offensive means, you will have a permanent enemy at your West border and gorilla war is more problematic, it is not easy to deal with

Best option for Pakistan to tight security at border fence as India does between india and Pakistani borders

Sometimes okay to go offensive but with limits... This will be the best deAl.

Agree.
Though not agree on USA and soviet part of your post.
Both USA and USSR clearly won militarily against them if it was without the help of pakistan and ISI.
Secondly economically Soviets were weak and had internal dismantling so they had to withdraw from Afghanistan. US faced internal political pressure so trump decided to bring troops back home.
Taliban can't fight any well structured,trained and modern army like Indian or pakistani army. Guerilla tactics is all they know and can't stop any invasion or free their occupied territory .

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pakistan can not win against Afghanistan with an occupying force, but Pakistan can certainly bomb the shit out of it and cripple it to a point where it can not pose serious threat to Pakistan.

Take example of PAF using F-16s and JF-17s to destroy all the runways, helicopters, jets, military bases, MRAPs, artillery etc. They will have only one option left, attacking a nuclear state using foot soldiers with AK-47s and M-4/16s .

Pakistan can not win against Afghanistan with an occupying force, but Pakistan can certainly bomb the shit out of it and cripple it to a point where it can not pose a serious threat to Pakistan.

If it were true, than no security person had been killed in the past few years. Just remember, you are just fighting with small groups.

Take example of PAF using F-16s and JF-17s to destroy all the runways, helicopters, jets, military bases, MRAPs, artillery etc. They will have only one option left, attacking a nuclear state using foot soldiers with AK-47s and M-4/16s .

Really? Does Pakistan have as many resources as the United States?

Is the way such things work so easy?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Agree.
Though not agree on USA and soviet part of your post.
Both USA and USSR clearly won militarily against them if it was without the help of pakistan and ISI.
Secondly economically Soviets were weak and had internal dismantling so they had to withdraw from Afghanistan. US faced internal political pressure so trump decided to bring troops back home.
Taliban can't fight any well structured,trained and modern army like Indian or pakistani army. Guerilla tactics is all they know and can't stop any invasion or free their occupied territory .

Agreed already - they can't win face-to-face or a traditional war against Pakistan.

Since we are all aware of the present situation - they have the capability to hit Pakistan via the Guerilla War in Pakistan itself.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Agreed already - they can't win face-to-face or a traditional war against Pakistan.

Since we are all aware of the present situation - they have the capability to hit Pakistan via the Guerilla War in Pakistan itself.

I think with the majority of Afghans already kicked out from Pakistan and with afghan border completely sealed. They can't transfer their guerilla warfare and terrorism inside Pakistan. Or it will be little and ineffective.
But on the other hand we can strike them right inside Afghanistan using drone technology and airforce.