Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder Bags Another Fighter Deal, Media Says; India’s LCA Tejas Banks On Massive IAF Contract

[Guynextdoor]

BUT BUT,, it was not for sale lol.

Whose buying this crap anyway!

The main operator- the IAF. Nigeria can even do with a c**p plane if they want (not suggesting JF 17 is, just making a point ---pss pss), but IAF can't.

 

[SecularNationalist]

This forum should not give any traffic or credibility to Eurasiantimes, a third grade propaganda blog. He purposely write sometimes slightly in favor as a bait and to get traffic from the both sides. 9 out of 10 times his articles are rubbish & based on propaganda.

Credible or not credible doesn't matter here. She just called day a day night a night. Whole world knows the export worthiness of tejas. Its a failed fighter jet. When a fighter isn't desired by anyone you don't need eurasian times or BBC to know the fact.

So Indian airforce placing massive order is a bad thing and PAF not placing order is. a 'good' thing?

What an excellent thinking.

That's shows other than IAF no one desires it because the world is not fool to waste its money. IAF only procures it to show its so called indigenous fighter or out of desperation because they have spent millions of dollars on a failed project. Its even more embarrassing to abandon the project ,so they have to induct them in IAF.
Tejas is a bone struck in India,s throat. They can't spit it out nor swallow it.

 

[Jaeger]

Credible or not credible doesn't matter here. She just called day a day night a night. Whole world knows the export worthiness of tejas. Its a failed fighter jet. When a fighter isn't desired by anyone you don't need eurasian times or BBC to know the fact.

That's shows other than IAF no one desires it because the world is not fool to waste its money. IAF only procures it to show its so called indigenous fighter or out of desperation because they have spent millions of dollars on a failed project. Its even more embarrassing to abandon the project ,so they have to induct them in IAF.
Tejas is a bone struck in India,s throat. They can't spit it out nor swallow it.

Pakistanis would have a right to cock-a- snoot at Tejas. If they had developed something similar or better. Here Pakistanis are ridding on the laurels of Chinese R&D and feeling proud.

Pakistan has almost zero contributions to JF 17 development. So much so, they can't even name parts of the aircraft that were developed by Pakistan.

Pakistan has just recently started assembling some models of JF 17s in home from semi-knocked down kits received from China.

I bet Su -30 MKI which was developed for India and has Indian avionics has more Indian contribution than JF 17 has Pakistani.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Pakistanis would have a right to cock-a- snoot at Tejas. If they had developed something similar or better. Here Pakistanis are ridding on the laurels of Chinese R&D and feeling proud.

Pakistan has almost zero contributions to JF 17 development. So much so, they can't even name parts of the aircraft that were developed by Pakistan.

Pakistan has just recently started assembling some models of JF 17s in home from semi-knocked down kits received from China.

I bet Su -30 MKI which was developed for India and has Indian avionics has more Indian contribution than JF 17 has Pakistani.

First of all other than engine and few avionics the rest of Jf17 is being manufactured In pakistan. That's the reason countries ask us when they want to buy this jet. There is a Chinese hand but China doesn't manufacture a single jet.
If still you take that as a inferior thing infront of your so called indigenous jet then tell me tejas has a western engine and avionics and still you fail to secure a single export order yet. Its time to accept your incompetence and impotence rather than arguing like a kid as improvement only comes after we accept our shortcomings. Oh wait Damn why I am giving such a valuable advice to my enemy Keep going that way lol.

 

[Jaeger]

First of all other than engine and few avionics the rest of Jf17 is being manufactured In pakistan. That's the reason countries ask us when they want to buy this jet. There is a Chinese hand but China doesn't manufacture a single jet.
If still you take that as a inferior thing infront of your so called indigenous jet then tell me tejas has a western engine and avionics and still you fail to secure a single export order yet. Its time to accept your incompetence and impotence rather than arguing like a kid as improvement only comes after we accept our shortcomings. Oh wait Damn why I am giving such a valuable advice to my enemy Keep going that way lol.

Ok a simple question.

What parts of JF 17 were developed by Pakistan?

 

[Cryptonian]

Ok a simple question.

What parts of JF 17 were developed by Pakistan?

You asked "developed".
Now see them responding with some basic parts which are being assembled through TOT in Pakistan.

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

First of all other than engine and few avionics the rest of Jf17 is being manufactured In pakistan. That's the reason countries ask us when they want to buy this jet. There is a Chinese hand but China doesn't manufacture a single jet.
If still you take that as a inferior thing infront of your so called indigenous jet then tell me tejas has a western engine and avionics and still you fail to secure a single export order yet. Its time to accept your incompetence and impotence rather than arguing like a kid as improvement only comes after we accept our shortcomings. Oh wait Damn why I am giving such a valuable advice to my enemy Keep going that way lol.

Su30MK1 is being manufactured in India from raw material stage for decades even the engine of su30mki is manufactured in India, India has modified the AL-31 engine to increase thrust and service life

 

[Guru Dutt]

Basanti, you do talk a lot of shit and self contradictory statements. Tejas was not for sale....... we want to sell.... kitna BS bhonko gaey ?

chichhaa tussee halle wee naee samjhee ... ya samjhaa nai chaundde

sadde wallo innee Manufacturing capability nahee hai is waille ki appaa khud to pailaa dujje mulkaa nu taiyarre vaichiyye but appa us taiyarre nu market zaroor karangge takee sannu saddee asal keemaatt da patta lagg sakke aur sannu keree keree aur salahiytte udde wichho rakhnee pauniya wo bhee ilm hove

in short we market LCA not cause we need to but to know acutal worthiness of owr platform against those in similar catagorry made by koreans or american or russians or french or swedes for internation market ....... sure owr product lags in some parameters as of now for getting the true export potention it deserves but we can get it overtime

in the meantime we are working on upgrading and filling in the squads for IAF and making two new verssion based on LCA so do not worry about your potential export markets of dirt poor third world nations we are not interested in chillarr anyway

 

[Guru Dutt]

The F-16 is equipped with a Pratt & Whitney engine.
Gripen is superior to any other single-engine 4th generation fighter jet in the world but costs more than even the fifth generation F-35 and is susceptible to sanctions but, The Tejas MK1A, priced comparably to the F-16, surpasses it in performance and is less prone to sanctions.

F16 has two engine options PW F100 & GEF110 series of engines form starting and every US fighter or civilian -comerrcial plane is alwyas given that option

thats not the point

Point is indian capabilitoies and and political clout and needs and doctroine is very very different than what USAF had or even Israel or sweden or turkey had cause they were both NATO and european union members and did not had a collonial past and poverty baggage like we had so lets not go there

LCA was made for as a answer to Mig21 and Mig27s so it could counter attacking F16s if the need arises and used as a goalkeeper inside indian borders by those who made it or wanted it

its in automotive terms compared to F16 is like an LCA is a 1000 three cylinder motor of alto while MK1A is like latest ALTO K10 while older F16 were like 1.6 four cylinder Honda engine with auto shifter gear box but the latest ones are like latest I Vtec 1.6 with next gen CVT gearbox with all those smart gizmos you get today ... though latest K 10 Alto caomes with ABS & EBD and twin air bags & aircon but can it be equal to latest Honda City ...? though both seat 4 to 5 pessengers ...???

same is with LCA MK1A which no dought has a great Radar and EW and self protection suit and great HOBs capabilities with goos air to air and air to ground pakage but can it counter one to one with latest F16 BLK 70/72 ...????? when both on internal fuel and air defnce roles have almost simillar combat radius in simmillar altitude

 

[kambhakt]

The combat range of Tejas MK1A is 739 kilometres its much higher than the 550 kilometres combat range of F16

• The F-16 Fighting Falcon's combat radius is 550 km (340 mi) on a hi-lo-hi mission with six 450 kg (1,000 lb) bombs.

Radius of action - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tejas Mk 2 languishes amid lack of funds

India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mk 2 programme is languishing without funding, months after the project was approved by New Delhi.

www.janes.com

Jackson FRAes, Paul (27 April 2017). Jane's All the World's Aircraft: Development & Production 2017-2018 (2017-2018) (105th ed.). Jane's Information Group. p. 244

Is there a link for the range.

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

Is there a link for the range.

Wikipedia has the link

 

[mulj]

Pakistanis would have a right to cock-a- snoot at Tejas. If they had developed something similar or better. Here Pakistanis are ridding on the laurels of Chinese R&D and feeling proud.

Pakistan has almost zero contributions to JF 17 development. So much so, they can't even name parts of the aircraft that were developed by Pakistan.

Pakistan has just recently started assembling some models of JF 17s in home from semi-knocked down kits received from China.

I bet Su -30 MKI which was developed for India and has Indian avionics has more Indian contribution than JF 17 has Pakistani.

reinventing wheel is one of the most stupid things to do from wrong motives and unrealistic expectations.

 

[Cryptonian]

reinventing wheel is one of the most stupid things to do from wrong motives and unrealistic expectations.

That's a cope for those who can't build things on their own.

But I can understand where this mentality comes from, considering how Pakistan sent a paid satellite cube weighing puny 8kg towards moon. But propagated it as some big achievement.

 

[mulj]

That's a cope for those who can't build things on their own.

But I can understand where this mentality comes from, considering how Pakistan sent a paid satellite cube weighing puny 8kg towards moon. But propagated it as some big achievement.

not a cope, nice to see how you persist on futility for outdated and poorly assembled airframe, why would i cope with something which is obviously failure for you?

 

[Cryptonian]

not a cope, nice to see how you persist on futility for outdated and poorly assembled airframe, why would i cope with something which is obviously failure for you?

Outdated airframe ?? Delta wings with higher composite alloy % and Quad redundant FBW is more modern than What latest Jf17 variant has. Your lack of knowledge is showing. You better not speak out of your depth.