Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Solomon2]

Let’s hope the settlers don’t smash and burn the aide like they did last week.
Like starving a whole population then wanting credit for letting aide in.
Another first.

• Monday, May 20, 2024
• 
  Elder of Ziyon

Egypt explicitly refuses to open Rafah for aid to Gaza. World still blames Israel. What's wrong with this picture?​

Last week, Israel gave a proposal to Egypt to coordinate the re-opening of the Rafah crossing.

Egypt rejected it out of hand, insisting that Palestinians must be the only people to control the crossing on the Gaza side.

Egypt does not deny any of this. They just say that the humanitarian crisis is Israel's fault, without elaborating on their refusal to open Rafah or to send aid trucks to Kerem Shalom.

So Israel approached the PA to formally control the crossing but to allow the ctul operations be done by a more neutral group - like the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, which is hardly neutral.

The PA refused.

Israel approached the EU asking if they can help operate the crossing. The EU has been paying an organization, EUBAM-Rafah, to oversee the Rafah crossing before Hamas took over Gaza. EUBAM employees are still in Israel, getting paid for doing literally nothing (outside issuing press releases on how they promote gender equality) - could they help coordinate aid?

The EU refused.

Hamas, which would collect taxes via the Rafah crossing as well as send its own injured terrorists through the crossingsend its own injured terrorists through the crossing while Gaza civilian casualties were refused entry, is in fulla alignment with Egypt in blaming Israel for the closing of Rafah.

Israel is meanwhile coordinating more aid deliveries than ever. On Sunday, it delivered 422 truckfuls of aid through its own crossings and facilitated 17 more via the US floating pier.

According to COGAT, last Wednesday, it transferred 248 trucks to UN agencies in Gaza - and not one of them was distributed.


Egypt's refusal to re-open Rafah does not only affect aid. Gaza patients who need to be treated in hospitals in Egypt and abroad cannot leave.

The only country in the world actually trying to get large amounts of aid into Gaza is Israel, with the US contributing a small percentage via the floating pier and several countries contributing a minuscule amount via airdrops.

The only country in the world that has tried to re-open the Rafah crossing is Israel.

Egypt receives $1.3 billion in aid from the US every year and has received $80 billion since 1978. As far as I can tell the US gets next to nothing back besides Egypt acting as a mediator in various Middle East disputes.

But we have not heard a word from the State Department or the White House being upset over Egypt's refusal to help Gazans. The "pro-Palestinian" protesters have nothing negative to say about Egypt - even though it received billions in aid from US taxpayers. The media is quite unwilling to find out exactly what happens to hundreds of trucks of aid that make it into Gaza but do not go anywhere.

The only country actually doing things to bring aid into Gaza - and being stymied at every turn - is the only one being blamed for their not receiving aid.

 

[That_Guy]

There is no threat to Israeli security from the ICC rulings. None whatsoever. Nada...

It literally only affects a few individuals. Israel can literally topple his government, replace him with someone else, and hand him over to the ICC, and just go about their business with nothing practically changing. Heck, it might actually improve their reputation.

 

[UKBengali]

It literally only affects a few individuals. Israel can literally topple his government, replace him with someone else, and hand him over to the ICC, and just go about their business with nothing practically changing. Heck, it might actually improve their reputation.

Disagree.

This is an indictment on the whole entity as they are nearly ALL(Jews) in on it.

All the leaders(ruling/opposition) of the entity are up in arms over the "outrageous" decision of the ICC.

They were so arrogant to think that their control of the US and by extension the west would allow them to outright commit genocide but it looks like they are wrong now.

PS - Around 85% of Jews living in Palestine wanted even more bombing. i.e. total obliteration and killing of all Gazans in effect.

 

[Musings]

• Monday, May 20, 2024
• 
  Elder of Ziyon

Egypt explicitly refuses to open Rafah for aid to Gaza. World still blames Israel. What's wrong with this picture?​

Last week, Israel gave a proposal to Egypt to coordinate the re-opening of the Rafah crossing.

Egypt rejected it out of hand, insisting that Palestinians must be the only people to control the crossing on the Gaza side.

Egypt does not deny any of this. They just say that the humanitarian crisis is Israel's fault, without elaborating on their refusal to open Rafah or to send aid trucks to Kerem Shalom.

So Israel approached the PA to formally control the crossing but to allow the ctul operations be done by a more neutral group - like the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, which is hardly neutral.

The PA refused.

Israel approached the EU asking if they can help operate the crossing. The EU has been paying an organization, EUBAM-Rafah, to oversee the Rafah crossing before Hamas took over Gaza. EUBAM employees are still in Israel, getting paid for doing literally nothing (outside issuing press releases on how they promote gender equality) - could they help coordinate aid?

The EU refused.

Hamas, which would collect taxes via the Rafah crossing as well as send its own injured terrorists through the crossingsend its own injured terrorists through the crossing while Gaza civilian casualties were refused entry, is in fulla alignment with Egypt in blaming Israel for the closing of Rafah.

Israel is meanwhile coordinating more aid deliveries than ever. On Sunday, it delivered 422 truckfuls of aid through its own crossings and facilitated 17 more via the US floating pier.

According to COGAT, last Wednesday, it transferred 248 trucks to UN agencies in Gaza - and not one of them was distributed.


Egypt's refusal to re-open Rafah does not only affect aid. Gaza patients who need to be treated in hospitals in Egypt and abroad cannot leave.

The only country in the world actually trying to get large amounts of aid into Gaza is Israel, with the US contributing a small percentage via the floating pier and several countries contributing a minuscule amount via airdrops.

The only country in the world that has tried to re-open the Rafah crossing is Israel.

Egypt receives $1.3 billion in aid from the US every year and has received $80 billion since 1978. As far as I can tell the US gets next to nothing back besides Egypt acting as a mediator in various Middle East disputes.

But we have not heard a word from the State Department or the White House being upset over Egypt's refusal to help Gazans. The "pro-Palestinian" protesters have nothing negative to say about Egypt - even though it received billions in aid from US taxpayers. The media is quite unwilling to find out exactly what happens to hundreds of trucks of aid that make it into Gaza but do not go anywhere.

The only country actually doing things to bring aid into Gaza - and being stymied at every turn - is the only one being blamed for their not receiving aid.

If you stopped bombing innocent people - collectively punishing - flattening hospitals and tying kids hands behind their backs and shooting - it would definitely help.
Suggesting you are the men in shining armour and trying to provide aide to those that you have collectively punished is quite horrendous thought and an embarrassing stance…..

 

[lightning f57]

It’s not, and Israel is 100% justified in its defense. Israel is on the right side of history.

Hamas is an evil, barbaric, terrorist entity that needs to be excised like the cancer it is, no different than the Nazis.

No difference between zionism and nazism, another cancer that needs to be excised. Now be a good boy and start in your own country where they control your government and whole political apparatus.

 

[lightning f57]

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Why they crying when they are not signatories....oh wait they realise this wont sit well with rest of the world. Good these nazis will have an application for an arrest warrant, hopefully its granted like the one with Putin. Let's be consistent now and not show up to be the hypocrites that your likes are.

 

[mulj]

It literally only affects a few individuals. Israel can literally topple his government, replace him with someone else, and hand him over to the ICC, and just go about their business with nothing practically changing. Heck, it might actually improve their reputation.

It would have sense if it is normal society but it is not, they are founded on violence and their main doctrine is deterrence trough disproportional violence and long term ethnic cleansing of palestinians they are like borg in star track tv show on that matter.

 

[GoMig-21]

You got it wrong we the wolves...

Y'all teaming up on @F-22Raptor like it's some kind of achievement to brag about. Come on, gimme a break. Even though there's a bunch more of y'all and you've got the numbers on your side, it ain't gonna do much. @F-22Raptor and I together could take down governments (Wesley Clark voice). We on that "we're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years" wavelength.

And just so yall know, me and my guy @Musings squashed our beef and we cool now.

Anyway, what I'm saying is everyone's got their own opinion and just because you don't agree with it doesn't give you the green light to start dissing folks.

Yo, this ain't about who's on who's side or anything like that. I've known Raptor since I joined this forum back in 2016 and we've never had any issues. We've argued about all kinds of crap including Tom Brady destroying his Seahawks lool as matter of fact, we actually agree on almost everything and even on US political subject matters. His position on the justification of this war is really the only thing we're in complete disagreement on.

I asked him on a personal level, man-to-man if he could relate to our Arab/American struggles in this conflict as it relates to our loyalties to this great country and he sort of replied, not really but kinda maybe.

His POV is that bottom line it doesn't matter what all of us feel and what's important is the principle he -- and many in this country -- believe and that is the old tired line of "Israel has the right to blah blah blah......" but the Palestinians don't? Even you know that's bogus.

But he shouldn't have insults hurled at him because of that. I never advocated for any of that and neither have many others who've challenged him. Matter of fact we've been calling out those who do.

Hey listen, if you wanna be the wolves then by all means have at it! It's only 3 of youz that's kinda sad TBH. Bring on more of your homies and add to the wolfpack. Not a good idea looool but you're free to do it if you wish.

Also I'd like to know if you, Raptor & Soloman have read Bin Landen's letter to America?

 

[UKBengali]

Yo, this ain't about who's on who's side or anything like that. I've known Raptor since I joined this forum back in 2016 and we've never had any issues. We've argued about all kinds of crap including Tom Brady destroying his Seahawks lool as matter of fact, we actually agree on almost everything and even on US political subject matters. His position on the justification of this war is really the only thing we're in complete disagreement on.

I asked him on a personal level, man-to-man if he could relate to our Arab/American struggles in this conflict as it relates to our loyalties to this great country and he sort of replied, not really but kinda maybe.

His POV is that bottom line it doesn't matter what all of us feel and what's important is the principle he -- and many in this country -- believe and that is the old tired line of "Israel has the right to blah blah blah......" but the Palestinians don't? Even you know that's bogus.

But he shouldn't have insults hurled at him because of that. I never advocated for any of that and neither have many others who've challenged him. Matter of fact we've been calling out those who do.

Hey listen, if you wanna be the wolves then by all means have at it! It's only 3 of youz that's kinda sad TBH. Bring on more of your homies and add to the wolfpack. Not a good idea looool but you're free to do it if you wish.

Also I'd like to know if you, Raptor & Soloman have read Bin Landen's letter to America?

You cannot have any rational debate with anyone who thinks that calling out land grabs, murder and genocide as being "anti-semitism". In effect they reserve the right for their friend to do anything without any criticism allowed.

As @PAKISTANFOREVER said there is no point trying to reason with people like that, as the only reason they understand is hard power when you can beat them through sheer force.

 

[clutch]

And right here is the root of the problem. Most here silently support Hamas terror attack on 10/7. You want to murder Israelis, but not face the consequence, and when you do you cry victim.

Israel has the right to defend itself. Hamas using civilians as human shields doesn’t negate that.

 

[Davey Crockett]

No difference between zionism and nazism, another cancer that needs to be excised. Now be a good boy and start in your own country where they control your government and whole political apparatus.

Read the book, A German Ace Tells Why, written by a National Socialist fighter pilot, an early member of the NSDAP.

He describes how criminal thugs took over the NSDAP party and shoved out those in the NSDAP who were against what was happening, as a result of WWII.

 

[clutch]

• Monday, May 20, 2024
• 
  Elder of Ziyon

Egypt explicitly refuses to open Rafah for aid to Gaza. World still blames Israel. What's wrong with this picture?​

Last week, Israel gave a proposal to Egypt to coordinate the re-opening of the Rafah crossing.

Egypt rejected it out of hand, insisting that Palestinians must be the only people to control the crossing on the Gaza side.

Egypt does not deny any of this. They just say that the humanitarian crisis is Israel's fault, without elaborating on their refusal to open Rafah or to send aid trucks to Kerem Shalom.

So Israel approached the PA to formally control the crossing but to allow the ctul operations be done by a more neutral group - like the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, which is hardly neutral.

The PA refused.

Israel approached the EU asking if they can help operate the crossing. The EU has been paying an organization, EUBAM-Rafah, to oversee the Rafah crossing before Hamas took over Gaza. EUBAM employees are still in Israel, getting paid for doing literally nothing (outside issuing press releases on how they promote gender equality) - could they help coordinate aid?

The EU refused.

Hamas, which would collect taxes via the Rafah crossing as well as send its own injured terrorists through the crossingsend its own injured terrorists through the crossing while Gaza civilian casualties were refused entry, is in fulla alignment with Egypt in blaming Israel for the closing of Rafah.

Israel is meanwhile coordinating more aid deliveries than ever. On Sunday, it delivered 422 truckfuls of aid through its own crossings and facilitated 17 more via the US floating pier.

According to COGAT, last Wednesday, it transferred 248 trucks to UN agencies in Gaza - and not one of them was distributed.


Egypt's refusal to re-open Rafah does not only affect aid. Gaza patients who need to be treated in hospitals in Egypt and abroad cannot leave.

The only country in the world actually trying to get large amounts of aid into Gaza is Israel, with the US contributing a small percentage via the floating pier and several countries contributing a minuscule amount via airdrops.

The only country in the world that has tried to re-open the Rafah crossing is Israel.

Egypt receives $1.3 billion in aid from the US every year and has received $80 billion since 1978. As far as I can tell the US gets next to nothing back besides Egypt acting as a mediator in various Middle East disputes.

But we have not heard a word from the State Department or the White House being upset over Egypt's refusal to help Gazans. The "pro-Palestinian" protesters have nothing negative to say about Egypt - even though it received billions in aid from US taxpayers. The media is quite unwilling to find out exactly what happens to hundreds of trucks of aid that make it into Gaza but do not go anywhere.

The only country actually doing things to bring aid into Gaza - and being stymied at every turn - is the only one being blamed for their not receiving aid.

 

[lightning f57]

You cannot have any rational debate with anyone who thinks that calling out land grabs, murder and genocide as being "anti-semitism". In effect they reserve the right for their friend to do anything without any criticism allowed.

As @PAKISTANFOREVER said there is no point trying to reason with people like that, as the only reason they understand is hard power when you can beat them through sheer force.

These kind of people are plain and simple racists, they value white and other western allied lives more than the brown person and justify it through some twisted boogie man logic. Funny thing is Hamas creation was supported by the state of israel, and more recently Netanyahu ensured money kept flowing in to divide the Palestinian leadership. At one hand their best ally is helping hamas and then next its a cancer and all that rubbish. Hamas was formed because of Israeli racist apartheid brutality of near 80 years. Unfortunately these types don't care just as they didn't care when their ancestors genocided the native americans.

 

[Shadihassan28]

@Musings it's messed up how they're treating and dissing @F-22Raptor. @F-22Raptor I got you big homie. Musing, check the last 5 pages, members be throwing all sorts of disrespect at @F-22Raptor. That ain't cool. Third world behavior.

I'm totally with @F-22Raptor on this one. ICC call is just wrong one of the nastiest things I've seen in a while.

The funny thing is people who usually don’t agree with one another on a wide scope of topics are together in unity don’t agree with some over the top comments but doesn’t mean they’re wrong this has now become a matter of justice justice is saying several of these people on both sides should be held for trial I don’t disagree let them all be held accountable, do I think Israeli leaders are going to jail anytime soon no I don’t but now there will be a chain of events that Israel or it’s greatest Allie’s can’t stop this is more fun than watching Iranian fireworks display Israel can’t talk their way out this America can’t pressure an independent body that it has no say over it Israelis are screaming because they’re actually scared Hamas honestly say what you will knows it options are fight to the death or two be self exiled in the future to a friendly Muslim country that will block extradition either way through death or exile they win

 

[UKBengali]

These kind of people are plain and simple racists, they value white and other western allied lives more than the brown person and justify it through some twisted boogie man logic. Funny thing is Hamas creation was supported by the state of israel, and more recently Netanyahu ensured money kept flowing in to divide the Palestinian leadership. At one hand their best ally is helping hamas and then next its a cancer and all that rubbish. Hamas was formed because of Israeli racist apartheid brutality of near 80 years. Unfortunately these types don't care just as they didn't care when their ancestors genocided the native americans.

I think the two here we are "debating" with are either Jews, Christian Zionists or just plain old white racists.

I cannot see how either can have such extreme views if they were any other kind of Americans.

Most Americans have now turned against the settler entity.