Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Liquidator]

Your claim is not entirely correct and again puts everyone in the same basket. You are obssesed with race and "white people".

Instead of just saying "Jewish settlers" you go on again with your narration of evil Europeans,evil white people etc.

You obviously disregard the fact that a massive amount of people in Europe,maybe even the majority,are against Israeli war crimes and occupation.

Noted.
Some good points raised and I will reflect on what words I use.

 

[Liquidator]

He is dishonest and closeted islamophobe.

I disagree

He is very open about his beliefs. Cut him some slack.

He doesn't support what israel is doing so we shouldn't antagonise him further.

 

[mulj]

If he was honest then he would go against the western narrative that Hamas are terrorists.

That is the giveaway that he is not sincere and impartial.

I know his game he is anti Erdgan meaning that he is anti MB because they have good relations, in essence considering that muslim version of democracy is terrorism, to transparent in his hate altough he try it hide via various obfusications.
Meanwhile jewish real terrorist continue their genocide.

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[r3alist]

Europe invented the hebrew language and jewish identity? You're missing a few thousand years of history. Put the yiddish and Ladino aside,the Jewish identity and language has existed for thousands of years. That's a historical fact.
When you and the others go on ranting about "white European settlers",it offends everyone on the forum who's from Europe. Imagine if one would go like "you southeast asian muzzies always terrorists" or "Europe's problem is the brown people coming from the subcontinent hur dur"...you understand how that sounds now?

I respect that you say what you do even though you know it's not popular I think you mean this sincerely, but the project of Zionist Israel was a European settler project, now I am not sure you can be more granular than this because they came from all over Europe,or am I wrong

Secondly, a consistent and historical Jewish presence should and has never been questioned.

That's totally aside from people who came with the Zionist project who like to pretend it's all one, it's not and we see this in Israel today.

 

[mulj]

I disagree

He is very open about his beliefs. Cut him some slack.

He doesn't support what israel is doing so we shouldn't antagonise him further.

He is irrelevant grifter and fraud.

 

[r3alist]

If he was honest then he would go against the western narrative that Hamas are terrorists.

That is the giveaway that he is not sincere and impartial.

I don't think it's smart to support hamas and many in Europe have utmost sympathy for Gaza yet will still never suppose hamas.

 

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[Meengla]

I know his game he is anti Erdgan meaning that he is anti MB because they have good relations, in essence considering that muslim version of democracy is terrorism, to transparent in his hate altough he try it hide via various obfusications.
Meanwhile jewish real terrorist continue their genocide.

Correct. Bringing the anti-Erdogan/anti-Turkey projection to defend the indefensible Israeli action shows a lack of maturity; Indian bloggers do that too when they project their anti-Pakistan feelings to become anti-Muslim/anti-Palestinians and pro-Israel.

The Israeli actions against the Palestinians were for decades indefensible and remain indefensible and now the almost entire world is in agreement with what I am saying. Obfuscation, projecting and unnecessary references to History can't hide that.

 

[r3alist]

Correct. Bringing the anti-Erdogan/anti-Turkey projection to defend the indefensible Israeli action shows a lack of maturity; Indian bloggers do that too when they project their anti-Pakistan feelings to become anti-Muslim/anti-Palestinians and pro-Israel.

The Israeli actions against the Palestinians were for decades indefensible and remain indefensible and now the almost entire world is in agreement with what I am saying. Obfuscation, projecting and unnecessary references to History can't hide that.

There is this, those who see through hate invariably see with one eye.

 

[UKBengali]

I don't think it's smart to support hamas and many in Europe have utmost sympathy for Gaza yet will still never suppose hamas.

It is not supporting Hamas per se but the right to armed resistance.

Those who understand why the tiny western minority of the world branded Hamas as "terrorist organisation" know the real reason is to delegitimise armed resistance against occupation of Palestine.

 

[r3alist]

It is not supporting Hamas per se but the right to armed resistance.

Those who understand why the tiny western minority of the world branded Hamas as "terrorist organisation" know the real reason is to delegitimise armed resistance against occupation of Palestine.

I see this, and the western media pundits themselves say more hamas will be created with Israeli actions thereby explaining the logic of resistance.

That's probably unwittingly a big admission and better to leave it at that.

 

[Foinikas]

Secondly, a consistent and historical Jewish presence should and has never been questioned.

But there has been a consistent and historical Jewish presence in Palestine. Even in the early 20th century,they were about 1/3 of the population.

iggest supporters of jewish settler colonialism are not jewish, actually those are white europeans evangelistic christians and they are dominant group among europeans/westerners in global.

Evangelicals aren't necessarily white and they are mostly American.

Actually arabs invented modern hebrew language.

Yala,khalas

Modern Hebrew - Wikipedia

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So is Fatah/PA worse than a Quisling?? Their so-called President can't even leave Ramallah without Israel's permission! They are a joke. J.O.K.E!!

He can't leave? Maybe because of the Israeli oppression? Are you kidding me? Remember when the IDF was besieging Arafat's office in Ramallah? In your opinion,in order for them to be taken seriously,they should be launching dumb attacks that have no strategic significance,but on the contrary are the cause of heavy reprisals by the yahood?

He is dishonest and closeted islamophobe.

You're an idiot for even saying that. And @UKBengali you're naive for agreeing with him. You're saying I'm dishonest? If I was dishonest,I would have come here and cheering Hamas like an American liberal campus student. I'm giving you an honest and personal opinion. The fact that for you,everything Hamas does is a rainbow of human kindness and love,that means you are being dishonest and not me.

Hamas has been acting like a gang,running Gaza like a mafia organization for 14 years. They are ruthless and selfish. All they care about is having a Palestine under their rule.

'power-hungey and unrealistic'? Have you read the Likud Charter? Have you not noticed that the longest serving and ELECTED PM of Israel is Netanyahu who is from Likud and who is finally publicly starting to boast about his decades-old machinations to thwart a Palestinian State? Who elected him for so long?? Does he not represent the 'will' of the Israeli people?

Captain Obvious,we all know that Netanyahu wants to see Palestinians kicked out or exterminated. My point is there have been other governments ever since Hamas was formed and ever since Hamas took power. Likud wasn't the only party ruling the country,yet Hamas ideology is "flstn from the river to the see,no zews,no zews,kick all the zews". If Likud is "Khamash and balastinians kol terrorists",then Hamas' is "we want all of it or nothing".

And you're destroying your own argument right now,because when you say Likud and Netanyahu represent the wil of the Israeli people,doesn't that mean that Hamas represents the will of the Palestinian people? You're making your own argument worse.

Correct. Bringing the anti-Erdogan/anti-Turkey projection to defend the indefensible Israeli action shows a lack of maturity; Indian bloggers do that too when they project their anti-Pakistan feelings to become anti-Muslim/anti-Palestinians and pro-Israel.

Hold on a second there. Where exactly did you see me mention Erdogan or Turkey here? And where did you see me defending Israeli actions?

Are you seeing things? Imagining stuff? Are you on acid? Mulj says something dumb and you expand on it and make it sound like fact? Go on and show me where the f did I defend Israeli war crimes or where did I even mention Turkey on this thread?

MB because they have good relations, in essence considering that muslim version of democracy is terrorism

The MB are radicals who have been messing up entire countries,historically trying to seize power with violence or other means. Not everything revolves around Turkey,you know. Just giving you a heads up,because it seems you're obsessed with your Ottoman past. The Muslim Brotherhood has been a threat to numerous countries that have a secular,Panarabist or mild islamic character.

 

[r3alist]

But there has been a consistent and historical Jewish presence in Palestine. Even in the early 20th century,they were about 1/3 of the population.

Yes, of Arab and other oriental Jews, not European descended.

So the other Jews were mostly Eastern European descended, thus the original point.

 

[Foinikas]

It is not supporting Hamas per se but the right to armed resistance.

Those who understand why the tiny western minority of the world branded Hamas as "terrorist organisation" know the real reason is to delegitimise armed resistance against occupation of Palestine.

"Tiny western minority"



The entire EU is a "tiny western minority"

Yes,what a tiny minority.

Where do you draw the line for someone to be a freedom fighter? What's the limit? What is forbidden? What's honorable and what's dishonorable? Where does one cross the line and stops being a freedom fighter and becomes a criminal?

 

[UKBengali]

"Tiny western minority"

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The entire EU is a "tiny western minority"

Yes,what a tiny minority.

Where do you draw the line for someone to be a freedom fighter? What's the limit? What is forbidden? What's honorable and what's dishonorable? Where does one cross the line and stops being a freedom fighter and becomes a criminal?

Yes still just 20% of the world's countries and population.

Argentina joined the list of shame recently as that nutjob(Jewish bloodline) got into power.

Look if you want to hold a fringe view in the world then so be it.

Now since you are all "democracies" and can make you own mind up, why do you all agree that Hamas are a "terrorist organisation"? Think only Norway and neutral Switzerland were able to think for themselves and not be bullied by the big boys.

No one(bar US slave Japan) outside the west takes your position seriously and so tell us do you support the right of the Palestinians to armed resistance against their occupiers?