Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[UKBengali]

This is not the thread for it, nor would I tell you any secret.

But Russia steam in Ukraine is gone. Unless something drastic happen, the situation in Ukraine will be very bad for Russia, you may think "wow, they are opening a third front in Kharkiv" Well, if they can take Liptsy and Vovchansk, it may, but now they still can't, that in itself did not achieve anything other than holding a vew village here and there when the Ukrainian can still lob artillery (let alone missile, now that US relax the restriction of their weapon) from the 2 cities I mentioned before and the southern attack is blogged down. I mean they made 9 mile since they took Avdiivka 4 months ago, and that is when we hang the Ukrainian dry by withholding aid.

On the other hand, what can Israel supply that make a different you asked?? How about them being the biggest F-16 operator in the region (US already okay F-16 transfer), how about Iron Dome? How about Israeli drones?? They may even be crazy enough to send force to Ukraine to either train or fight the Russian directly, if they think Russia is intended to take them out by supporting Iran. I mean, they aren't NATO, we have no say on what they can or cannot do.

US would NEVER allow any transfer where any top-secret US technology could fall into Russian hands like AMRAAM.

Iron Dome? They cannot even defend themselves with what they have and they will send of these batteries to Ukraine?

Russia would slaughter these Zionist armed terrorists if they went to Ukraine as they are rubbish at infantry fighting as can be seen in Gaza.

Putin has other reasons not to put military pressure on the Zionist entity and it is not any retaliation they are capable of in Ukraine war.

 

[Meengla]

well, if you are talking about Hezbolla or Houtis lobbing missile into Israel like they were in the last 20 or so years, sure, they don't need Russia. If you want anything more than that, then you either need Russia or China to counter the flow of US/Western Weapon into Israel. We aren't talking about Ukraine, US purse string is going to be wide open if Israel is in danger of being overrun, even a small inland incursion would probably trigger the GOP and Dem in congress that bend over backward and supply weapon to the IDF.

Otherwise, there aren't much H group can do, I mean you can seize a few ship or lob a few missile, it's not going to draw majority of IDF troop off gaza.

'the last 20 years'? I don't recall the southern and northern parts of Israel losing a chunk of population which became internal refugees in Israel. I don't recall hundreds of thousands of Israelis fleeing to safer countries. I don't recall Israel's growing 'image' problem and becoming an international target. I don't recall even EU Members recognizing Israel. I don't recall Israel leadership is in the crosshair of UN courts. I don't recall Israeli economy tanking like it is. I don't recall the public disunity in the highest echeleaon of Israeli power like even in the current 'War Cabinet'...

This is nothing like 'the last 20 years' and you know that.

The Resistance against Israel doesn't need any 'kinetic' support from Russia and China at this point because, per the American and Iranian agreements, the conflict is kept limited. And a limited conflict is a war of attrition against Israel which Israel can't win if this drags on and on.

 

[Meengla]

US would NEVER allow any transfer where any top-secret US technology could fall into Russian hands like AMRAAM.

Iron Dome? They cannot even defend themselves with what they have and they will send of these batteries to Ukraine?

Russia would slaughter these Zionist armed terrorists if they went to Ukraine as they are rubbish at infantry fighting as can be seen in Gaza.

Putin has other reasons not to put military pressure on the Zionist entity and it is not any retaliation they are capable of in Ukraine war.

Good response. Honestly, you responded to a joke of a post by a so-called military tactician! No disrespect but the guy is not suited for anyting above a platoon commander after reading that post by him!!

 

[UKBengali]

Good response. Honestly, you responded to a joke of a post by a so-called military tactician! No disrespect but the guy is not suited for anyting above a platoon commander after reading that post by him!!

I doubt the battle-hardened Ukrainians would even take any "advice" from the bumbling idiots that cannot defeat a militia force of a besieged enclave in Gaza, after nearly 8 months when they have unlimited money and weapons supplied by the US and European countries like Germany.

Russians and Ukrainians are likely the best soldiers on the planet now due to more than 2 years of experience in fighting each other as "peer adversaries".

 

[j_hungary]

US would NEVER allow any transfer where any top-secret US technology could fall into Russian hands like AMRAAM.

Ukraine to get AMRAAM weapons under $1 billion deal with RTX

Part of the firm-fixed-price deal — the largest ever awarded for AMRAAM weapons — will cover missiles for sale to multiple foreign allies and partners.

www.defensenews.com

Ukraine to get AMRAAM​

Iron Dome? They cannot even defend themselves with what they have and they will send of these batteries to Ukraine?

Again, you are not talking about the war in Ukraine is ending in 2024 or even 2025. The war will be a long haul. And again, my argument is that Israel have the capability to make it VERY difficult to the Russian, I am not saying they are going to be beat off by the end of the year.

Russia would slaughter these Zionist armed terrorists if they went to Ukraine as they are rubbish at infantry fighting as can be seen in Gaza.

Well, that remain to be seen

Putin has other reasons not to put military pressure on the Zionist entity and it is not any retaliation they are capable of in Ukraine war.

Normally I would say "I'll have to trust your word for it" but well, this is what I will say instead.

I would like to believe you, but.....all my training and knowledge tell me otherwise........

 

[j_hungary]

'the last 20 years'? I don't recall the southern and northern parts of Israel losing a chunk of population which became internal refugees in Israel. I don't recall hundreds of thousands of Israelis fleeing to safer countries. I don't recall Israel's growing 'image' problem and becoming an international target. I don't recall even EU Members recognizing Israel. I don't recall Israel leadership is in the crosshair of UN courts. I don't recall Israeli economy tanking like it is. I don't recall the public disunity in the highest echeleaon of Israeli power like even in the current 'War Cabinet'...

This is nothing like 'the last 20 years' and you know that.

The Resistance against Israel doesn't need any 'kinetic' support from Russia and China at this point because, per the American and Iranian agreements, the conflict is kept limited. And a limited conflict is a war of attrition against Israel which Israel can't win if this drags on and on.

Okay, whatever float your boat bud, I said my piece, that was going to be my opinion whether you like it or not, you are free to believe what you want to believe

And oh, I am not a platoon leader, I got out as a captain, my billing is WAY over that. (A platoon leader is anyone who's a 2LT)

 

[UKBengali]

Ukraine to get AMRAAM weapons under $1 billion deal with RTX

Part of the firm-fixed-price deal — the largest ever awarded for AMRAAM weapons — will cover missiles for sale to multiple foreign allies and partners.

www.defensenews.com

Ukraine to get AMRAAM​

There you go.

They have nothing to give Ukraine that the US/Europe are not already supplying or preparing to supply.

Russia probably has the R-77M(dual motor) in IOC and the SU-35 with its larger weapon load, higher altitude and top-speed will dominate F-16 in BVR duels. Putin does not even need to risk his precious SU-57s to deal with these F-16s. Ukraine will probably not get AIM-120D which would be comparable in performance.

 

[j_hungary]

There you go.

They have nothing to give Ukraine that the US/Europe are not already supplying or preparing to supply.

Russia probably has the R-77M(dual motor) in IOC and the SU-35 with its larger weapon load, higher altitude and top-speed will dominate in BVR duels. Putin does not even need to risk his precious SU-57s to deal with these F-16s. Ukraine will probably not get AIM-120D which would be comparable in performance.

You do know the article I quote is to show you that NASAM uses AIM-120 AMRAAM, and they ARLEADY have NASAM.. That mean they would have spare AMRAAM to goes with the NASAM already, in order word, THE UKRAINIAN ALREADY HAVE AMRAAM-D3R.

I mean what else do you need in a F-16? They already have JDAM, export licenses for F-16D/Block 52, they already have sidewinder. And they already have AMRAAM. On the other hand, how many Su-57 was made, and being made??

Again, I will have to defer from this as this is not the thread for Ukraine.

 

[Meengla]

There you go.

They have nothing to give Ukraine that the US/Europe are not already supplying or preparing to supply.

Russia probably has the R-77M(dual motor) in IOC and the SU-35 with its larger weapon load, higher altitude and top-speed will dominate in BVR duels. Putin does not even need to risk his precious SU-57s to deal with these F-16s. Ukraine will probably not get AIM-120D which would be comparable in performance.

Ukraine is being obliterated! Even the NY Times is starting to bring up a collapse of Ukraine up to the Dnieper River. Ukraine is not a topic here but, as you rightly pointed out, Israel can't do much to supply Ukraine. Iron Dome?? Have we not seen how many of Hezbollah rockets and drones in last few days along penetrating the Israeli defences and doing damage in northern Israel? Israel keeps asking and getting for Washington's $$$ and weaponary for a reason: Israel is running low on weaponry due to the ongoing and prolonged multifront conflicts since October 7. Israel can't do jack for Ukraine!!

 

[Persian Gulf]

Heavy damage to IDF Branit Barracks (command HQ) caused by Hezbollah Burkan rockets

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[Ali_Baba]

US will lose its sole superpower status as China becomes a peer in the 2030s.

When you are the sole superpower you can get away with anything and impose your will but not when you have a true peer like China in the economic, military and technological domains.

I am not sure China becoming #1 will make a difference, as China has shown no interest in exterting itself anywhere for any reason - they are interested in just making money - nothing else.

 

[mulj]

I don't get it. Are you saying Hamas won the war by letting the Israel to commit genocide on themselves???

Now I am confused......

You are not confused,must playing stupid games, you know very well what i meant.

 

[mulj]

Ukraine is being obliterated! Even the NY Times is starting to bring up a collapse of Ukraine up to the Dnieper River. Ukraine is not a topic here but, as you rightly pointed out, Israel can't do much to supply Ukraine. Iron Dome?? Have we not seen how many of Hezbollah rockets and drones in last few days along penetrating the Israeli defences and doing damage in northern Israel? Israel keeps asking and getting for Washington's $$$ and weaponary for a reason: Israel is running low on weaponry due to the ongoing and prolonged multifront conflicts since October 7. Israel can't do jack for Ukraine!!

Iron dome missiles are produced and paid by usa, israel can supply shit.

 

[j_hungary]

You are not confused,must playing stupid games, you know very well what i meant.

Honestly, I don't......

You said Hamas won the war, and then say this is Israel Genocide project........

So, unless you are claiming it's Hamas goal to have Israel genocide its own people, that's nothing to win. And if Israeli can just go murder Gazan in a genocidal kind of way, then how exactly Hamas won the war??

 

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Sky will fall over these Zionists and traitor coward Arab leaders.

And Muslims will play a crucial role in that.

Israelis are done for

Only gullible treasonous Pakistani liberals still believe in the fake Western liberal values of democracy and Huma rights.... Those rights are not for the Palestinians and any other Muslim people...