Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[925boy]

I don't get it.

don't or can't?

Are you saying Hamas won the war

yes, because Israel lost it

by letting the Israel to commit genocide on themselves???

No, by fighting cohesively and calculatedly and smart, but Israel genocides Gazans during this war of liberation that is being succesfully fought- Hamas can win and ISrael can genocide and both can happen at the same time in the war.

Now I am confused......

No, you're trolling.

 

[Indos]

We are all Hamas now. Otherwise you are a Munafiq.

Does Hamas abide with Quran verses and Hadith that forbid Muslim to target civilians during War time ?

 

[muhammed45]

Does Hamas abide with Quran verses and Hadith that forbid Muslim to target civilians during War time ?

There is no civilian in Israel to begin with.

Each and everyone of those settlers are potential terrorists that need to be jailed and kept in chain.

Those who go to look for a job in Israel risk their lives.

 

[925boy]

The problem with it is that they all revolve Iran.

that's not a problem.

But Iran probably would need Russia backing to have them attack Israel be it high or low intensity conflict.

No Iran doesn't! You dont even understand Iran, because if you did, you would know that Iran has made succesful regional plans against US and Israel that don't rely on Russian approval or support- because afterall, Russia sees ME regional issues and players a bit different from Iran- Iran is not doign things in ME because of Russian approval (at least not mainly or motivationally)

The issue here is, Israel is currently staying neutral in Ukraine, and if Russia F with Israel by letting Iran attack Israel themselves or using their proxies, that may change,

a whole bunch of BS- Iran and its proxies have attacked and are attacking Israel already without Russia stopping it so this is rubbish because you are connecting 2 things that are not connected- Iran + its proxies actions in ME and ISrael's support for Ukraine. Israel is more likely deterred from helping Ukraine because it is afraid of how Russia will increase support for Syrian govt against Israel- Russia can make Syrian airspace unavailable to the IAF, and Israel knows it and fears that possibility.

unless you think those H - Group can eliminate Israel once and for all,

not likely, but it could break down Israel's military capabilities considerably at the end of this war, which will stop ISrael' from attacking neighbors illegally and unreasonably.

if Israel remain, it have the capability to make Russia progress in Ukraine a living hell (Don't forget Ukraine have a very large Jewish population, include the president himself, Zelenskyy)

what rubbish- Israel cant even make Lebanon or Yemen's lives miserable despite all the damage they've done to Israel so tell me how Israel can assist Ukraine that is 100s of miles away in a way that actually hurts Russia? you think these wars are video games and they are not- this logic has no practicality in it.

That is the reason why 9 months down, and we are talking about IDF attacking the last strong hold in Gaza,

no- 9 months down and Israel is about to admit defeat agianst rag tag militias in Gaza- Israel has attacked all of Gaza and thats not what matters- what matters is what has Israel achieved other than getting its leaders indicted in ICC and the world against it- not much really!

and none of the H-Group have done anything meaningful.

define meaningful first.

Also, HEzbollah has destroyed alot of IDF infrastruture in northern Israel and displaced over 100K Israelis from nothern Israel and made them IDPs- you consider that not meaningful? once again, you make general comments that sound logical but dont have any sense in them sometimes.

If there were things to be done, they would have done so already.

illogical comment when the war is still going on- you dont knwo the miiltary plans and strategies both sides are using and have planned to make this statement and be correct.

We are talking about a total wipeout in Gaza here.

thanks for confirming Israel is genociding Gaza, thats exactly why we are on this thread and the world is watching- Israel will not genocide Gaza and go scot free-it will pay the price for its war crimes.

 

[j_hungary]

I was clear, can not help further with clarification

Again, as I said, you lost me on this one.

That is all after war outcome, China already calls for international conference to implement palestinian state, it would happen decades ago but jews control USA so it is hard, israel itself is irrelevant.

You do know even if Palestinian state exist, there can still be war, right? That's my point.

Not really, 800k of settlers fled the country with no intention for coming back so it is not normal for them too.

That did not answer my point......at all.....

I am aware that Palestine is not the ONLY news, anyway MSM is not maim factor for public informing anymore.

But you are talking about international attention is pointless, as it shift from things to things........

If you believe only iof sources and estimations who are proven liers it might be so, i will remain sceptical to those claims.

I am not talking about IDF source, I am talking about the public destruction of Gaza and people (whether Gazan or Hamas) in it.......

 

[Indos]

There is no civilian in Israel to begin with.

Each and everyone of those settlers are potential terrorists that need to be jailed and kept in chain.

Those who go to look for a job in Israel risk their lives.

Nope, involving civilians as target like Hamas indiscriminate rocket launch to Israel cities and terrorist act inside Israeli city targeting civilians are the ones that makes Israel is also targetting Palestinians civilians

Hamas has been doing their stupid action for decades and understand what will be the consequence of such action but keep doing that due to their ego/emotion/abide with their leadership

We should abide and follow Allah, not emotion or other human

 

[j_hungary]

that's not a problem.

No Iran doesn't! You dont even understand Iran, because if you did, you would know that Iran has made succesful regional plans against US and Israel that don't rely on Russian approval or support- because afterall, Russia sees ME regional issues and players a bit different from Iran- Iran is not doign things in ME because of Russian approval (at least not mainly or motivationally)

a whole bunch of BS- Iran and its proxies have attacked and are attacking Israel already without Russia stopping it so this is rubbish because you are connecting 2 things that are not connected- Iran + its proxies actions in ME and ISrael's support for Ukraine. Israel is more likely deterred from helping Ukraine because it is afraid of how Russia will increase support for Syrian govt against Israel- Russia can make Syrian airspace unavailable to the IAF, and Israel knows it and fears that possibility.

not likely, but it could break down Israel's military capabilities considerably at the end of this war, which will stop ISrael' from attacking neighbors illegally and unreasonably.

what rubbish- Israel cant even make Lebanon or Yemen's lives miserable despite all the damage they've done to Israel so tell me how Israel can assist Ukraine that is 100s of miles away in a way that actually hurts Russia? you think these wars are video games and they are not- this logic has no practicality in it.

no- 9 months down and Israel is about to admit defeat agianst rag tag militias in Gaza- Israel has attacked all of Gaza and thats not what matters- what matters is what has Israel achieved other than getting its leaders indicted in ICC and the world against it- not much really!

define meaningful first.

Also, HEzbollah has destroyed alot of IDF infrastruture in northern Israel and displaced over 100K Israelis from nothern Israel and made them IDPs- you consider that not meaningful? once again, you make general comments that sound logical but dont have any sense in them sometimes.

illogical comment when the war is still going on- you dont knwo the miiltary plans and strategies both sides are using and have planned to make this statement and be correct.

thanks for confirming Israel is genociding Gaza, thats exactly why we are on this thread and the world is watching- Israel will not genocide Gaza and go scot free-it will pay the price for its war crimes.

I was gonna take you seriously and answer your question, then I remember who you were and look at your post......

 

[925boy]

I was gonna take you seriously and answer your question, then I remember who you were and look at your post......

thank you, thats a compliment that someone like you can't effectively oppose my logical and reasonable points.

Seeing you post on this thread made me know trouble has arrived, but we are here for it! I predict you will stop posting on this thread soon, once Israel and US admit defeat, just like the others like F-22, Foinikas and Solomon guys.

 

[j_hungary]

thank you, thats a compliment that someone like you can't effectively oppose my logical and reasonable points.

Seeing you post on this thread made me know trouble has arrived, but we are here for it! I predict you will stop posting on this thread soon, once Israel and US admit defeat, just like the others like F-22, Foinikas and Solomon guys.

lol, I don't post much anymore, (I probably only ever come up 1 or twice a week now) and you remind me how pointless posting in thread like these with people like you.

I don't mind being labelled, or you think you are more logical, I mean, if you believe that then you probably going to believe when someone is selling you a bridge....

 

[muhammed45]

Nope, involving civilians as target like Hamas indiscriminate rocket launch to Israel cities and terrorist act inside Israeli city targeting civilians are the ones that makes Israel is also targetting Palestinians civilians

Hamas has been doing their stupid action for decades and understand what will be the consequence of such action but keep doing that due to their ego/emotion/abide with their leadership

We should abide and follow Allah, not emotion or other human

What a pathetic creature you are. A shameless liar or maybe you are collecting Zionist supporters for Indonesia.

First lie, Hamas' missiles are not guided, they cannot guide it in the first place so they don't hit Israeli settlers intentionally. They just fire something in retaliation to Israeli massacre of civilians, torture of civilians and Israeli occupation.

Stop dancing with that religious gesture. Indonesia is anything but an Islamic country. A secular land to say the least. Your country doesn't represent an Islamic country. So you should be the last person to speak of Allah and his rules among Muslim masses.

Secondly, Israel didn't exist prior to British invasion of Ottoman lands. Jews lived in Palestine before Zionist cancer of Israel was created by colonial powers. That solely proves that Israel is a colonial military post not a cancer built upon religious standards. And who could be better than Zionist Jews hiding behind LoLocaust fiction to destroy Palestine?

Hamas and PIJ are a logical and Islamic response to years of massacre, displacing Muslims of Palestine, occupation and colonization by west.

By condemning Hamas, you prove that you are a hypocrite, nothing more nothing less.

No wonder you supported Qaeda and ISIS prior to their public savagery. You camp where west approves like an snake.

 

[Indos]

What a pathetic creature you are. A shameless liar or maybe you are collecting Zionist supporters for Indonesia.

First lie, Hamas' missiles are not guided, they cannot guide it in the first place so they don't hit Israeli settlers intentionally. They just fire something in retaliation to Israeli massacre of civilians, torture of civilians and Israeli occupation.

Stop dancing with that religious gesture. Indonesia is anything but an Islamic country. A secular land to say the least. Your country doesn't represent an Islamic country. So you should be the last person to speak of Allah and his rules among Muslim masses.

Secondly, Israel didn't exist prior to British invasion of Ottoman lands. Jews lived in Palestine before Zionist cancer of Israel was created by colonial powers. That solely proves that Israel is a colonial military post not a cancer built upon religious standards. And who could be better than Zionist Jews hiding behind LoLocaust fiction to destroy Palestine?

Hamas and PIJ are a logical and Islamic response to years of massacre, displacing Muslims of Palestine, occupation and colonization by west.

By condemning Hamas, you prove that you are a hypocrite, nothing more nothing less.

No wonder you supported Qaeda and ISIS prior to their public savagery. You camp where west approves like an snake.

What the heck, what an emotional respond made by you here. Did I touch your ego with my statement ? Nope I never support Al Qaeda and ISIS as it is inline with my post history

 

[muhammed45]

What the heck, what an emotional respond made by you here. Did I touch your ego with my statement ? Nope I never support Al Qaeda and ISIS as it is inline with my post history

Yeah it angers me to death when I see a hypocrite and a liar condemns and blames the oppressed for retaliating to oppressor. Great try by you

 

[Indos]

Yeah it angers me to death when I see a hypocrite and a liar condemns and blames the oppressed for retaliating to oppressor. Great try by you

The oppressed still cannot kill any civilians dude. I condemn both Hamas and Israel, and of course the most blame should be pointed to Israel. But boundaries is still boundaries.

Lesson 2. If your population protesting your government gasoline price hike, then does your Mullah gov has any right to kill those protesters ?

Think

 

[clutch]

Does Hamas abide with Quran verses and Hadith that forbid Muslim to target civilians during War time ?

They are the only defensive the Palestinians have. Let's not get cocky here.

 

[Indos]

They are the only defensive the Palestinians have. Let's not get cocky here.

What ? Fatah has an army as well and Hamas made a war with Fatah arm faction and kick them out.

You definately dont understand the situation. Defensive what ? Hamas is more on offensive stupid dude who dont care with their own population that become the punching bag while Hamas hide inside tunnel seeing the city being bombed and women and kids/babies being massacred every times Hamas do stupid and useless and sinning offensive to Israel civilians