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Totally agree, well put.as for the Israeli civilians and Hamas war crimes debate
on the one hand, some Palestinians clearly crossed the 'border' and targeted Israeli civilians in ways that violate the rules of war. we don't know if this was core Hamas members or random thugs that opportunistically crossed the border, but this hurt their messaging.
examples: babies and children and elderly people taken back to Gaza. there is no justification for this.
on the other hand, Israel will create a narrative of being the victims no matter what, and obviously slaughters civilians far more than any Palestinian ever could.
You are right. One can not become the monster they want to fight and defeat, there is no justification for targetting unarmed civilians, settlers or whatever. This was not the way of our religion or the rightous way when struggling for freedom.You need to take your meds. I don’t know what European country you have taken refuge in, but be careful you don’t get a knock on the door by the local authorities like your fellow brother SalarHaqq.
More than half of those pictures are from Hamas body cams. And the pictures don’t lie. Play whatever mental gymnastics you want to rationalize those killings.
Facts are you don’t see Hezbollah walk into cities and kill settlers. They have the capability. They could do this everyday in the North. They will never do this. They didn’t do this in Lebanon Civil war when they were a rag tag non cohesive group. They didn’t do this Syrian civil war either against hostile pro-FSA cities. You will not see any Shiite military group do this. Basij and IRGC won’t do this either. Men of God don’t murder women, children, and unarmed men.
You call yourself a Shiite and follower of God when you actively promote the killing of unarmed civilians including women and children? You aren’t any different than the Israeli’s who promote war crimes on social media. Two sides of the same coin.
I will never promote the deaths of unarmed civilians no matter their viewpoints. I was clear about this on 10/7, my posts are there for all to see when I said this would backfire from a messaging component. Wether your Zionist, Othordox Jew, Wahhabi, Neo-Nazi, Facist Turkmen, Klu Klux Klan, etc. whatever hate group, if you are not an enemy combatant or posing a lethal threat at that moment than you should not be murdered. This is basic rules of war.
I hope when you meet your creator you can’t sit and rationalize with him and tell ‘him’ how his views are “nonsense” and “questionable”. I’m sure it will go over really well.
You are labeling yourself as a hypocrite who complains about Palestine deaths from Israeli war crimes than actively promotes Hamas to do the same when given the opportunity to make up for past transgressions. That just feeds a vicious cycle that never ends.
With such logic, when Iranian influence took over Iraq they should have butchered all the Sunnis (and Shiites) who supported Saddam during the Iran-Iraq for causing numerous civilian and military combatants deaths on Iranian on their soil.
For someone who always talks about keeping their emotions in check and not to get emotional, you clearly have gone off the reserve.
So everyone in Israel has killed Palestinians? That is statistically impossible. There is more Israelis than Palestinians if everyone of them killed “Palestinian farmers” then there would be no Palestinians existing.
Stop this nonsense that every settler has murdered Palestinians thus it’s somehow “fair game” for Hamas to murder any Israeli civilian they see. In fact some members of Hamas do not adhere to such genocidal philosophy as you see with how they treated the hostages that were returned. But there are components and groups within the Palestinian umbrella that are Facist and gencoidal no different than the Facist Syrian “freedom fighters” that murdered tens of thousands of Syrian civilians.
Luckily the resistance isn’t as childish and keyboard warriors as you are and your fellow lot. Hezbollah doesn’t go after civilians and sticks to military targets. IRGC sticks to military targets. As Solemani said meet us on the battlefield.
You have lost the plot. Go see a doctor.
When Raisi helicopter when down you were telling everyone Iran should bomb Israel even if they aren’t involved.
You have clearly gotten too emotional and went from a rationale minded analysis to this drivel you now post all over this forum. Not sure what changed or if your account has been hacked. Very odd behavior out of you.
In my book since Al-Qussair and Syria debacle and their alliance with Al-Nusra Front Hamas is a terrorist group. before that these Palestinian groups for me were like the people who were practicing the oldest profession and did the bid of anybody who gave them money , but it won't make Israel less Terrorist , in fact they are bigger terrorist since 40sI do not blame the Palestinians even if they attack Jewish civilians. Put yourself in their place. Your family has been killed, your reputation has been ruined, you have been surrounded and imprisoned for years, even your country has been stolen. In this situation, it is strange that they do not resort to violence
I knew who deleted it and no its not visible to me unless i want to see it. the one who delete it is not the one you think.The post is visible because you are a moderator also, take the link into another browser and it is not viewable
So all we say about IDF, that they should die and suffer etc because they commit atrocities is okay but saying simply that their bodies should be burnt is not appropried?
And any living person inside Israel is not a civilian but a settler contributing to the settler cause, not random innocents, this is not their lands while people are dying and getting slaughtered at will by an unprofesionnal, child killing pseudo army
Ill stop the debate here, i have nothing more to say
as I previously said and many attacked me for it . you see Israeli post about Iran and get angry , won't you think Israeli also see Iranian post about Israel and it incite some emotion inside them , fr example post about all Israeli must be considered armed force , killed and their body burntListen when i look at Zionist conversations, lastly advocating for ISIS to bomb the rally for the president, and to "feast Iranians with F-35", it is very hard to stay in place in a chair and saying nothing in response, hatred induces hatred by ricochet
The level of hatred is never seen, you will not find a more hateful place than Zionist rallying points on internet, even far right and gore websites doesn't come to this level of hatred
you see its conscription law if israel,Nonsense. You seem to not know the history and military service practice of Zionia. Please stick to your tactical commentaries although even those are questionable often.
Can you also post a few Hamas child killing and baby eating photos from Zionia?
Please don’t spread the Zionist narrative here.
Thousands of innocent Palestinians have died and it's the Zionist hill you’ve chose to die on?
You should be ashamed of yourself. SMH.
As of 2022, the minimum required length of military service is two years and eight months (with some roles requiring an additional four months of service) for all conscripted men, and two years (with some roles requiring an additional eight months of service) for conscripted Jewish women.[1] Once they have completed their mandatory term of service, all discharged citizens remain eligible to be called up for reserve duty until the age of 40. Draftees may be exempted from military service on humanitarian, religious, or certain legal grounds.
let me translate it for people in simple termدر سال ۱۳۶۳ و با توجه به شرایط جنگی کشور، قانون سربازی مشتمل بر ۶۷ ماده و ۵۷ تبصره در روز یکشنبه ۲۹ مهرماه ۱۳۶۳ در مجلس شورای اسلامی تصویب شد.[۱۸] طبق این قانون سربازی در ایران ۳۰ سال است و شامل چهار دوره، ضرورت (دو سال)، احتیاط (۸ سال)، ذخیره اول (۱۰ سال) و ذخیره دوم (۱۰ سال) میشود. در دوران صلح اجازه داده شده که این مدت به ۱۸ ماه کاهش یابد.[۳۱]
Hamas did not target any festival. Hamas targeted a military base known as the Re'eim military base. Festival happened to be near it. People ran away and Israeli helicopters fired at Hamas fighters approaching the military base. Israel killed any festival goers. The main police stations and other Israeli government and military institutions were based in those settlements. So were specific Israeli officials that were on the target list for capture or elimination.I’m skeptical. But it’s a huge positive development for the innocent people inside Gaza.
The question is what happens in the North? Does HZ stop?
If this is true, it was entirely because of 3 things:
1) HZ dominating the North
2) Israeli war crimes being shown across the world and loss of standing of Israel even among Allies. Lead to even 3 European countries to recognize a Palestinian state.
3) ICC (dramatic theatrical) war crimes announcement
Israel was given a GIFT by Hamas on Oct 7th when elements of Hamas attacked CIVILIAN targets (music festival and settlements) instead of focusing on just police stations and military targets.
Hamas targeted over 25 Israeli military bases in the first phase of the operation. That was referred to as a terrorist attack and was not published in the media. Instead fake atrocity propaganda was published.I said it then it was HUGE mistake killing innocent civilians (on either side) and all it did was give Israel a get out of jail free card for first 3 months of conflict and even to this day. If Hamas has stuck to soldiers and valid military and security targets then they would have the entire upper hand throughout the conflict regarding the messaging. Just look at HZ in the North, the vast majority of their attacks is focused on military targets outside of firing rockets (which you can’t really control where an unguided $250 rocket lands).
Correct. I’m aware of that. What relationship does the conscription law in Iran (which is more or less universal. The US has a similar law called Selective Service for eg) .have to do with a bunch of squatting thieves in Zionia?you see its conscription law if israel,
well let me tell you the conscription law of iran, not many people are aware of it and they think its 14-20 month, they can't be more wrong than that
let me translate it for people in simple term
according to law passed by our parliament 40 years ago conscription time in Iran for male is 30 years . 2 years is mandatory and you must enlist then for 8 years you are cautionary reserve and they can call you if they want , then there is 2 ten year period after that that they can call you in emergency situation its called first and second reserve period.
also we have non mandatory enlistment for women that is under justification of Downtrodden Basij Organization and women can receive military training there.
so as you see by you guys standard there are no civilian in Iran , after all in Israel they can call you up to 40 years , in iran they can call you until you reach 50
the law mentioned here to point the flaw of argument about all Israeli are soldiers because of their conscription law. if all Israeli are soldier then all Iranian are also soldiersCorrect. I’m aware of that. What relationship does the conscription law in Iran (which is more or less universal. The US has a similar law called Selective Service for eg) .have to do with a bunch of squatting thieves in Zionia?
Irrelevant and you miss the point. All Zionists are squatters. There are no ‘civilians’ amongst squatters. Don’t forget these thieves are mostly armed close to the borders to make the poor argument redundantly weaker. This whole ‘conscription vs civilian’ thing is a red herring and a western construct.the law mentioned here to point the flaw of argument about all Israeli are soldiers because of their conscription law. if all Israeli are soldier then all Iranian are also soldiers
Well law don't work like thatIrrelevant and you miss the point. All Zionists are squatters. There are no ‘civilians’ amongst squatters. Don’t forget these thieves are mostly armed close to the borders to make the poor argument redundantly weaker. This whole ‘conscription vs civilian’ thing is a red herring and a western construct.
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