HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

DevendraRajput said:
Trouble is not how many TRMs... Trouble is when it will be flying in our planes. Like, original vision of Tejas was being fully fuctional in 90s or 2000s.. If it was functional, even with PESA radar, AESA upgrade now would have been very beneficial... but this "oh we will have this ready by 2040 but we will claim it now" is rather ..... sad.
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It has been flying on Tejas Mk1A prototypes for well over 2 years now. Mostly all testing and certification that was required to be done prior to production has been completed.

As per the latest report, production related work has started so that the Uttam AESA production standard radar is ready by the time the 41st Tejas Mk1A is on the assembly line.

Given that HAL is targeting 16 Tejas Mk1A this year (2024-2025) and then 24 in 2025-2026, they will reach the 41st Tejas Mk1A on the assembly line in mid-2026.

That gives them 2 years from now, to have the production standard Uttam radar ready and on the Tejas assembly line.
 
The second batch of Tejas MK1A should feature a cockpit similar to that of the F-35, with a wide screen and a side-mounted control stick, akin to what has been developed for the Tejas MK2 and LIFT Trainer jet. IAF is already paying $80 million per Tejas MK1A, incorporating this additional feature would add only an insignificant cost to the overall price.
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silicon0000 said:
you want a similar cockpit for Tejas MK1A ............. Ok i will talk to Modi and Hal leadership to follow your instruction. 😅 :LOL: ;)
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Maybe they’re already working on it, and later batches of the Tejas MK1A will feature a cockpit similar to the Tejas MK2 or F-35. An under-development trainer jet by HAL, called LIFT, has a similar cockpit with a single wide screen and a side control stick.
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GTRE has finally decided to power a trainer LCA with a 75KN Kaveri engine. They have already received the 54KN Dry Kaveri engine, which they will fit into an LCA trainer and fly. After testing with the 54KN engine, they will then fit another engine with a wet thrust of 75KN and fly it to test various parameters. this will be a significant achievement, as it will pave the way for making drones and trainer jets using the Kaveri engine. This move also assures that after 10 years, Tejas will receive a new and powerful indigenous engine.
 
DRDO and GTRE to Integrate Dry Kaveri Engine Derivative into LCA-Tejas Trainer Aircraft

DRDO and GTRE to Integrate Dry Kaveri Engine Derivative into LCA-Tejas Trainer Aircraft – Indian Defence Research Wing

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In a significant development, Dr. Samir V. Kamat, Secretary of Defence Research and Development (DD R&D) and Chairman of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has announced plans to integrate a Dry Kaveri engine derivative into the LCA-Tejas Trainer aircraft. This integration will serve as a crucial step in advancing India's indigenous engine technology, though it is not intended as a replacement for the existing F-404 engines in operational fighter jets.
 
Bhojpuranchali said:
The second batch of Tejas MK1A should feature a cockpit similar to that of the F-35, with a wide screen and a side-mounted control stick, akin to what has been developed for the Tejas MK2 and LIFT Trainer jet. IAF is already paying $80 million per Tejas MK1A, incorporating this additional feature would add only an insignificant cost to the overall price.
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They're not paying anywhere near USD 80 million for the Tejas Mk1A. The IAF signed a contract worth Rs 48,000 crores (~5.8 billion USD) for the 83 Tejas Mk1A. That itself works out to USD 69.8 million per jet, if one is to just divide the contract cost by the units sold.

But the contract is much more complex and includes spares, spare radars, spare engines, tools, jigs to support the jets, plus maintenance support contract from HAL for 5 years, training for technicians, etc.
 
MirageBlue said:
They're not paying anywhere near USD 80 million for the Tejas Mk1A. The IAF signed a contract worth Rs 48,000 crores (~5.8 billion USD) for the 83 Tejas Mk1A. That itself works out to USD 69.8 million per jet, if one is to just divide the contract cost by the units sold.

But the contract is much more complex and includes spares, spare radars, spare engines, tools, jigs to support the jets, plus maintenance support contract from HAL for 5 years, training for technicians, etc.
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The next batch of 97 Tejas MK1A jets is more expensive, possibly because the IAF requested modifications and enhancements.
But, even at a price of $100 million, it's still cost-effective. Onky Few fighter jets worldwide are equipped with Gallium Nitride AESA radar and a 90% carbon composite body. The Tejas is the only fighter jet in the IAF inventory capable of carrying all advanced weapons in the IAF arsenal, including BrahMos NG and Meteor (after getting the UTTAM radar). Moreover, no Pakistani jet can fire Meteor-like missiles; even upgrading their F-16s to Block 70 standard would not enable them to fire Meteor like missiles.
 
Bhojpuranchali said:
The next batch of 97 Tejas MK1A jets is more expensive, possibly because the IAF requested modifications and enhancements.
But, even at a price of $100 million, it's still cost-effective. Onky Few fighter jets worldwide are equipped with Gallium Nitride AESA radar and a 90% carbon composite body. The Tejas is the only fighter jet in the IAF inventory capable of carrying all advanced weapons in the IAF arsenal, including BrahMos NG and Meteor (after getting the UTTAM radar). Moreover, no Pakistani jet can fire Meteor-like missiles; even upgrading their F-16s to Block 70 standard would not enable them to fire Meteor like missiles.
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It cannot fire Meteor. 1) It has not been given permission to by France yet (good luck with that) and 2) not integration work has been done.

Other then that, perfect post.
 
Yasser76 said:
It cannot fire Meteor. 1) It has not been given permission to by France yet (good luck with that) and 2) not integration work has been done.

Other then that, perfect post.
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As long as it has Israeli radar it cannot fire meteor but with UTTAM Radar it can fire all kind of weapons from any country Except China
 
Yasser76 said:
It cannot fire Meteor. 1) It has not been given permission to by France yet (good luck with that) and 2) not integration work has been done.
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Meteor is not a french missile ! it is a european one, mainly paid by GB, so the key is GB top brass, not french one.
I don't know if one MBDA member can stop a sale.
 
Bhojpuranchali said:
The next batch of 97 Tejas MK1A jets is more expensive, possibly because the IAF requested modifications and enhancements.
But, even at a price of $100 million, it's still cost-effective. Onky Few fighter jets worldwide are equipped with Gallium Nitride AESA radar and a 90% carbon composite body. The Tejas is the only fighter jet in the IAF inventory capable of carrying all advanced weapons in the IAF arsenal, including BrahMos NG and Meteor (after getting the UTTAM radar). Moreover, no Pakistani jet can fire Meteor-like missiles; even upgrading their F-16s to Block 70 standard would not enable them to fire Meteor like missiles.
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Has the contract been signed? No, then how is a contract value even out there? HAL has to first respond to the RFP and then only, after the contract is signed, can a deal price be quoted.
 
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