HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[onlinpunit]

India could equip the first few Rafales with Gallium Nitride Uttam AESA Radar if DRDO can make Gallium Nitride UTTAM AESA Radar for the Su-30MKI then why not Rafales, Rafale is a powerful fighter jet, with good combat range, payload capacity, low radar cross-section, and is capable of carrying nuclear weapons capability. But to make it India specific it must be upgraded with Indian avionics Similar to how the Super Su-30MKI, a Russian fighter jet, is being upgraded with Indian avionics.

Well If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Rafale as of now comes with integrated spectra suite.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Well If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Rafale as of now comes with integrated spectra suite.

China modified Russian jets to enhance their performance, even replacing the Russian engines with indigenously developed Chinese ones. India also upgraded the Al-31 engine of the Su-30MKI to increase thrust and service life. In about ten years, when an indigenous engine is ready, India may not need France's help to upgrade the Rafales, as both the avionics and engines could be replaced with indigenous options.

 

[MirageBlue]

China modified Russian jets to enhance their performance, even replacing the Russian engines with indigenously developed Chinese ones. India also upgraded the Al-31 engine of the Su-30MKI to increase thrust and service life. In about ten years, when an indigenous engine is ready, India may not need France's help to upgrade the Rafales, as both the avionics and engines could be replaced with indigenous options.

India will not touch the Rafale in any way. The Su-30MKI was different- it is being license manufactured in India at HAL and that meant a high degree of local manufacturing was already there.

In the case of the Rafale, there is a Dassault roadmap to keep the Rafale up to date with F4 and F5 level capabilities. It involves years of heavy R&D, testing, flight testing, to validate the technologies that F4 and F5 will add to the Rafale. Doesn't make sense to develop our own variant of the Rafale when we don't build it in India nor do we own source codes for it's systems.

Su-30MKI never had anything like that, since the Russians themselves only adopted the Su-30SM much later on and did not have a roadmap for continuous development. If the IAF didn't want a Super Sukhoi program, the Su-30MKI would've continued to stagnate or gotten some minor upgrades based on what the Russians have developed.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

India will not touch the Rafale in any way. The Su-30MKI was different- it is being license manufactured in India at HAL and that meant a high degree of local manufacturing was already there.

In the case of the Rafale, there is a Dassault roadmap to keep the Rafale up to date with F4 and F5 level capabilities. It involves years of heavy R&D, testing, flight testing, to validate the technologies that F4 and F5 will add to the Rafale. Doesn't make sense to develop our own variant of the Rafale when we don't build it in India nor do we own source codes for it's systems.

Su-30MKI never had anything like that, since the Russians themselves only adopted the Su-30SM much later on and did not have a roadmap for continuous development. If the IAF didn't want a Super Sukhoi program, the Su-30MKI would've continued to stagnate or gotten some minor upgrades based on what the Russians have developed.

Israeli F16s are equipped with Israeli Radar

 

[DDG-80]

HAL is completing the integration of five major upgrades to the Tejas Mk 1, which will grant it the designation of Mk 1A.
Two of the five major improvements, which are practically complete, are to the airborne radar and the electronic warfare (EW) suite.

Revamped Tejas Mark 1A fighters ready for take-off: First batch of 16 to enter IAF service this year

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The Tejas Mark 1’s earlier, manually scanned array radar has been replaced by a far more capable AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar that makes the Mark 1A far more capable and versatile in air-to-ground and air-to-air combat.

The second improvement to the Tejas Mark 1 involves the integration of new, self-protection jammers, and mission computers.

 

[kaku]

HAL is completing the integration of five major upgrades to the Tejas Mk 1, which will grant it the designation of Mk 1A.
Two of the five major improvements, which are practically complete, are to the airborne radar and the electronic warfare (EW) suite.

Revamped Tejas Mark 1A fighters ready for take-off: First batch of 16 to enter IAF service this year

www.ajaishukla.com

The Tejas Mark 1’s earlier, manually scanned array radar has been replaced by a far more capable AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar that makes the Mark 1A far more capable and versatile in air-to-ground and air-to-air combat.

The second improvement to the Tejas Mark 1 involves the integration of new, self-protection jammers, and mission computers.

Have they given any timeline for twin launchers?

 

[Oscar]

Israeli F16s are equipped with Israeli Radar

The F-16 Netz was rumored to receive the Elta 2032 but this was never confirmed and when delivered to Top Aces these aircraft were retrofitted with US made AESA apparently.

The Barak C/D and the Sufa both carry the APG-68V9

 

[kambhakt]

By that logic
"He says that the Tejas has a higher payload capacity and range compared to the Tejas, but overlooks the fact that Mitsubishi Type Zero is smaller, lighter, and stealthier than Tejas."
You can even say that the Zero has better dogfight capabilities. No jet fighter would want to enter a dogfight with a Zero (cannon only).

Maybe not stealthier. Zero was full metal. Tejas has composite. Also Tejas has a smaller wing span.
In a dog fight of a modern jet with a world war 2 plane, the modern jet would simply start from around 5000 ft above the old plane and come down to strafe it. I don't think the turning rate of the zero would be able to save it and it would be basically weaponless against the far faster jet.

 

[DevendraRajput]

UTTAM Aesa Radar to have 900 TR Modules

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Trouble is not how many TRMs... Trouble is when it will be flying in our planes. Like, original vision of Tejas was being fully fuctional in 90s or 2000s.. If it was functional, even with PESA radar, AESA upgrade now would have been very beneficial... but this "oh we will have this ready by 2040 but we will claim it now" is rather ..... sad.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Trouble is not how many TRMs... Trouble is when it will be flying in our planes. Like, original vision of Tejas was being fully fuctional in 90s or 2000s.. If it was functional, even with PESA radar, AESA upgrade now would have been very beneficial... but this "oh we will have this ready by 2040 but we will claim it now" is rather ..... sad.

Patience is Indians' Biggest Virtue

Even the current MMR based on Elta 2032 is as good as our Upgraded Mirage 2000 RDY 3 and MiG 29 upgraded Zhuk ME

However even the 40 currently available Tejas MK 1's Main Advantage is the Sortie Generation Rate

It can carry out 3 sorties per day

A plane has to be present at the desired Altitude and the Area where An Enemy strike is expected or possible

Only then it can fire its BVRs to thwart any strike package

 

[kaku]

Trouble is not how many TRMs... Trouble is when it will be flying in our planes. Like, original vision of Tejas was being fully fuctional in 90s or 2000s.. If it was functional, even with PESA radar, AESA upgrade now would have been very beneficial... but this "oh we will have this ready by 2040 but we will claim it now" is rather ..... sad.

Isnt it, it already flying in LSP-2 for certification?

 

[DevendraRajput]

Isnt it, it already flying in LSP-2 for certification?

Not in the defence roles. That happened very recently.

 

[kaku]

Not in the defence roles. That happened very recently.

From 2018.

 

[DevendraRajput]

From 2018.

Thats not a plane serving in IAF, its LSP for development, right?

 

[kaku]

Thats not a plane serving in IAF, its LSP for development, right?

Obviously, thats how certification happen.