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[Beijingwalker]

Every subway station in Shenzhen is futuristic looking

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[Beijingwalker]

2024, Nyingchi city in South Tibet welcomes the first snow in the new year, so beautiful!!

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Snow fairyland, Nyingchi, 2024 New Year Snow

 

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A good thing the Qing has beaten back the British and save Nyingchi city. It will be worst off under India.

 

[Viet]

that sounds not good at all. but if comparing to the youths in Russia, chinese youths still have plenty options, opportunities, should the economy turn to the better. or they can go out to the world.

russian youths previously could go study, go work in UK, Germany, France, the world. now they can´t go anywhere. they are imprisonend in the giant russian gulags. Putin kills off young russian people.

 

[Beijingwalker]

A good thing the Qing has beaten back the British and save Nyingchi city. It will be worst off under India.

But Nyingchi would've got "democracy" if it were successfully annexed by the British India.

 

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But Nyingchi would've got "democracy" if it were successfully annexed by the British India.

They will also get slums, huge corruption, outdated public transport and roads, broken down buildings, infrequence electricity and water and being attack on the streets due to lack of order.

 

[Beijingwalker]

China's meritocracy: Selection and election of officials
Updated 17:26, 26-Dec-2019
By Meng Yaping

China has a unique system of selection and election of officials, which Canadian scholar Daniel A. Bell has described as "political meritocracy."
Unlike Western models, China's selection of officials is focused on ability and merit.

"Political meritocracy" is the idea that the political system should aim to select and promote leaders with superior qualities, Bell expounded in a National Interest article.

This is in line with the Confucian tradition of meritocracy, which is deeply entrenched in Chinese political culture. After all, China was the first country to invent a civil service examination system, known as the "Keju."

As a communique released after the fourth plenary session of the 19th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in October described, one of the 13 notable strengths of China's state and governance systems is "selecting officials based on integrity and ability and on the basis of merit regardless of background to cultivate more talented individuals."

Criteria and procedures

China has cultivated a large number of outstanding political talents with continuous training, practice and assessment. As an old saying in China goes, "It takes seven years to see if a tree can grow into suitable building materials." This is a good summary of China's rationale for training and selecting officials.

Some basic criteria to evaluate Party and government officials include loyalty, morality, knowledge, ability, leadership, and style of work.

When selecting officials, priority should be given to those who have grassroots working experience, dare to take on responsibilities, and are adept at taking action, according to the regulation on the selection and appointment of Party and government officials released in May.

Experience in areas like poverty eradication, job creation, local economic growth, social development and, increasingly, environmental protection, are key criteria.

A good example of this is the profiles of the top leaders elected at China's 19th CPC National Congress. Six of the seven have run provinces or provincial-level municipalities – many of which, in terms of population or GDP, are equivalent to multiple nations combined.

After meeting those criteria, candidates need to go through a vigorous process including proposal, democratic recommendation, appraisal, and discussion before finally being appointed.

The CPC has also established a complete training system, to help officials better meet the needs of the new situation and new tasks.
Chinese model is about leadership rather than showmanship

It's not far-fetched to say the Chinese model is more about leadership than the showmanship seen in the West, commented Zhang Weiwei, professor of international relations at Fudan University.

Zhang said China's meritocratic governance challenges the traditional dichotomy of democracy versus autocracy.

From China's point of view, the nature of the state, including its legitimacy, has to be defined by its substance: that is good governance, competent leadership and successfully meeting the needs of the people. So despite some deficiencies, the Chinese polity has delivered the world's fastest growing economy and has vastly improved living standards for most Chinese, he elaborated.

The Chinese system of meritocracy today makes it inconceivable that anyone like George W. Bush or Donald Trump could ever come close to the position of top leadership. A U.S. president often names close associates who lack relevant political experience to important positions.

Zhang argues that while the system of selection is not perfect, it is a match for alternative models and has delivered for the Chinese people.

China's meritocracy: Selection and election of officials

China has a unique system of selection and election of officials, which Canadian scholar Daniel A. Bell described as "political meritocracy."

news.cgtn.com

 

[VCheng]

"Political meritocracy" is the idea that the political system should aim to select and promote leaders with superior qualities, Bell expounded in a National Interest article.

Is this the system that produces such a regular number of officials removed for corruption?

It's not periodic, the disciplinary ministry is always there, and the number is pretty even, around 1 million every 2 years, for at least 2 decades already.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Is this the system that produces such a regular number of officials removed for corruption?

Yes, humans are greedy in nature, that's why corrupted should be replaced constantly. Money and power always corrupt people. You don't know this simple fact?

 

[VCheng]

Yes, humans are greedy in nature, that's why corrupted should be replaced. Money and power always corrupt people. You don't know this simple fact?

LOL. A system that regularly produces such a number of people removed for corruption does not seem like a good system.

 

[Beijingwalker]

LOL. A system that regularly produces such a number of people removed for corruption does not seem like a good system.

Better than a system produces same amount of corrupt and incompetent leaders but never removes them.

 

[VCheng]

Better than a system produces same amount of corrupt and incompetent leaders but never removes them.

ROFL. When is Xi going to be removed? The US President gets eight years maximum. By law. Your whataboutery is useless.

 

[Beijingwalker]

ROFL. When is Xi going to be removed? The US President gets eight years maximum. By law. Your whataboutery is useless.

You think it through western perspective, not from we Chinese one. No system is prefect, it's give and take, you want more unity and efficiency, you sacrifice something else or the other way around, We care more about delivering results, not empty election promise swhich are never delivered.

 

[VCheng]

You think it through western perspective, not from we Chinese one. No system is prefect, it's give and take, you want more unity and efficiency, you sacrifice something else or the other way around, We care more about delivering results, not empty election promise swhich are never delivered.

So you have no idea when your leader can be removed?

 

[Beijingwalker]

So you have no idea when your leader can be removed?

Xi set a bad precedence, he broke two term limit, I agree. but it's give and take. No system is perfect, you enjoy what something brings to you, but you also have to live with what is not that great. Like democratic countries are full of incompetent leaders and it'll take forever for them to get anything done is also what people living in many "democratic" countries have to live with.