Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Hassan Al-Somal said:
"CNN: The aircraft carrier Gerald Ford and its accompanying fleet are on their way to the coast of Haifa."

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By sending all of this firepower to the Occupied Palestine's coast, It looks like they're trying to bully Lebanon or perhaps they want to participate the war against Lebanon.
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They’re not going to participate in a war between Israel and Hezbollah they know one wrong move it will basically start a war that perhaps might be a worse outcome than Afghanistan,Syria and Iraq combined there are way to many players involved in this if American forces decide to target Hezbollah, Hezbollah won’t target American assets as long as they do not feel American forces will attack. I keep on saying this Hezbollah by now are far more equipped militarily than the Houthis have been preparing for the fight to end all fights in their minds. Houthis are the b team Iraqi and Syria forces c team hezbollah is the a team. If we consider Hamas a part of the proxy alliance they were somewhere in the middle of b and c teams.
 
Shadihassan28 said:
They’re not going to participate in a war between Israel and Hezbollah they know one wrong move it will basically start a war that perhaps might be a worse outcome than Afghanistan,Syria and Iraq combined there are way to many players involved in this if American forces decide to target Hezbollah, Hezbollah won’t target American assets as long as they do not feel American forces will attack. I keep on saying this Hezbollah by now are far more equipped militarily than the Houthis have been preparing for the fight to end all fights in their minds. Houthis are the b team Iraqi and Syria forces c team hezbollah is the a team. If we consider Hamas a part of the proxy alliance they were somewhere in the middle of b and c teams.
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Iraqi PMU are definitely not the C team. They have medium range cruise missiles (1000km+), Shahed drones with 1000km+ range, short range ballistic missiles (Fath), strong level of individual equipment and armoured vehicles (Iranian Toofan) and probably Almas ATGM. Maybe even longer range ballistic missiles from Iran, but not revealed yet. They are very well equipped and trained and part of the Iraqi Army.

Yemeni Ansarallah have many advantages over Hezbollah: size of area controlled (10x size of all of Lebanon), far away from Israel (harder to bomb), took over large former Yemeni Army stockpiles of ballistic missiles and helicopters etc, less resistant to domestic/US/Saudi pressure, larger force (200,000+ people)

Hezbollah fighters are on average more competent and better equipped/trained and being closer to Israel means it's much easier for them to hit Israel, and they also possess advanced Iranian weapons thanks to their large land border with Syria, but arguably not the advanced MRBMs that Ansarallah possess.

Leader - Iran
A tier - Hezbollah, Ansarallah, PMU
B tier - Hamas
C tier - PIJ, Syrian militias

This is in terms of their equipment and potency only, they are all vital parts of the Axis of Resistance. Ideologically, Iran is closest with Hezbollah since IRGC was heavily involved since the origins of Hezbollah and they fought on the same battlefield shoulder to shoulder for decades.
 
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That’s basically my theory here so if the Houthis have that kind of capability what do we believe Hezbollah has been hiding for twenty years, just fanboy theory here but Ghadir submarines don’t seem to be out of the question hidden near shores of Lebanon definitely unmanned naval drones and cruise and anti ship ballistic missiles
 
Persian Gulf said:
Iraqi PMU are definitely not the C team. They have medium range cruise missiles (1000km+), Shahed drones with 1000km+ range, short range ballistic missiles (Fath), strong level of individual equipment and armoured vehicles (Iranian Toofan) and probably Almas ATGM. Maybe even longer range ballistic missiles from Iran, but not revealed yet. They are very well equipped and trained and part of the Iraqi Army.

Yemeni Ansarallah have many advantages over Hezbollah: size of area controlled (10x size of all of Lebanon), far away from Israel (harder to bomb), took over large former Yemeni Army stockpiles of ballistic missiles and helicopters etc, less resistant to domestic/US/Saudi pressure, larger force (200,000+ people)

Hezbollah fighters are on average more competent and better equipped/trained and being closer to Israel means it's much easier for them to hit Israel, and they also possess advanced Iranian weapons thanks to their large land border with Syria, but arguably not the advanced MRBMs that Ansarallah possess.

Leader - Iran
A tier - Hezbollah, Ansarallah, PMU
B tier - Hamas
C tier - PIJ, Syrian militias

This is in terms of their equipment and potency only, they are all vital parts of the Axis of Resistance. Ideologically, Iran is closest with Hezbollah since IRGC was heavily involved since the origins of Hezbollah and they fought on the same battlefield shoulder to shoulder for decades.
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😂 but you get what I mean but I still say hezbollah is in a league of its own
Also know one knows yet for sure if Hezbollah has mrbms as of yet those can be held for later on down the road but honestly not really needed all they really need are fateh or zolfaghar style missiles which 99.9 percent sure they have hidden in bunkers or silos etc
 
Shadihassan28 said:
😂 but you get what I mean but I still say hezbollah is in a league of its own
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Ansarallah have F-5 fighter jets and helicopters and latest Iranian anti-ship ballistic missiles and MRBMs. I think you really underestimate how big and well equipped they are. watch these videos:

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Only 12% of Israelis consider themselves left or center left.

The left in Israel for all practical purposes is gone, the public has been fundamentally changed by this war, as a recent New York podcast explaining what that is society is like.

They are living in an echo chamber not seeing the atrocities or believing the atrocities being done in their name.

What I find interesting from the following interview is that the two men don’t acknowledge that Netanyahu undermined Oslo in spirit and deed. Putting the blame on the Palestinians when they don’t have a partner for peace on the other side is disingenuous. I guess they just see it from the Israeli point of view because of how much of a shock October 7th was, and may only realize it years from now upon reflection, and honest analysis.

This podcast also shows that Israeli society had already become significantly right wing before October 7 and were for the occupation and all that goes with it, by and large.

Main take away, said towards the end, Israel will cease the war when Saudis give some (or total) recognition in exchange for a return to the status quo ante. Giving Israel a year to build up a new army (under a Trump administration) to take on Iran and its proxies with the support of the Sunni majority countries.

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They see the future as Israel doubling down on occupation and war for the coming years (which is similar to how South Africa’s apartheid regime and Rhodesia in their last 20 years saw its only option via a vi the black African population, and after the pull out of Portugal from Angola and Mozambique, similar to the end of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan). Just like in Vietnam and Southern Africa, these apartheid nations claimed to be fighting communism while they were actually fighting a genuine freedom struggle for majority rule by the natives according to their culture. What some would say the Iraqis and Afghans were doing as well.

In so many ways, we are living in an echo of the 70s.

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VCheng said:
No country participating in any of the above, or the present conflict in this thread, is immune from the consequences of its actions.
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Yeah but the hypocrisy of the western countries has become intolerable, we need Russia to win

That need in of itself is one of the consequences of western hypocrisy for example in Palestine
 
Persian Gulf said:
Ansarallah have F-5 fighter jets and helicopters and latest Iranian anti-ship ballistic missiles and MRBMs. I think you really underestimate how big and well equipped they are. watch these videos:

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No I know how well equipped they are I’m saying Hezbollah overall is better equipped and trained and f 5 and old helicopters aren’t really going to stand the test against allied forces that’s why they haven’t been used ever minus the takeover of that ship awhile back…….again not arguing here they are highly motivated and capable just saying Hezbollah is more capable. Not everything has to be debated 😂 I’m just saying I think Hezbollah is definitely far better trained and capable, Houthis have heart of lion and don’t back down from a fight though
 
Foinikas said:
In the previous post,they said "if the enemy uses Cyprus ports,airports" etc. Who is the enemy? They didn't mention a specific country. If it's the Americans and the British,they can make use of the British bases on Cyprus. If the British allow the Israelis to use their bases,the Cypriots can't do anything about it. The bases are under British authority.

But the IDF has no need for other bases,they're just next to Lebanon.
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*Re: bombing Cyprus bases used to bomb Lebanon*

I guess you got Hezbollah's point message but not its point.
 
hussain0216 said:
Yeah but the hypocrisy of the western countries has become intolerable, we need Russia to win

That need in of itself is one of the consequences of western hypocrisy for example in Palestine
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Intolerable? For whom? Russia will win or lose for itself, just like any other sovereign country. Similarly, Israel and Palestinians will determine their own fates by the consequences of their actions.

After all, luck favors only those who work harder, faster and smarter than others since no one people or race or country has a monopoly on being dominant geopolitically. Never have, and never will.
 
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