Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

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Qalibaf and Argachi and Pezeskhian have surrendered the country once more.

Trump has done this bit before and for the Iranians to say they never said anything will see what happens

 

[Immortals]

Trump has done this bit before and for the Iranians to say they never said anything will see what happens

It’s clear the Iranians have agreed to this charade because Argachi was on the phones surrendering the nation to Arab leaders once again.

 

[Hayabusa]

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Qalibaf and Argachi and Pezeskhian have surrendered the country once more.

Iran’s leaders once again demonstrate they are clowns and they love being apart of Trump’s circus.

What makes you think Iran are surrendering?

Give them credit where it is due. Iran is reviewing the proposal while simultaneously launching drone strikes in Erbil and Kuwait. They may have been passive at first, but they have clearly raised the stakes and showed more initiative to strike first. Ultimately, even a massive military campaign by Trump won't reopen the Strait of Hormuz. He needs to accept that he is backed into a submission, and he is not breaking this arm lock.

 

[Watandar]

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Qalibaf and Argachi and Pezeskhian have surrendered the country once more.

Iran’s leaders once again demonstrate they are clowns and they love being apart of Trump’s circus.

I don't get your pessimism. To me Trump has backed down yet again, for the 50th time. Frankly I think its Israel AND Iran who are playing him like a ping pong ball.
Trump will eventually accept his defeat.

 

[EugeneP]

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Qalibaf and Argachi and Pezeskhian have surrendered the country once more.

Iran’s leaders once again demonstrate they are clowns and they love being apart of Trump’s circus.

That language ("future benefit of the WORLD") reminds me of BORДT!

 

[EugeneP]

I don't get your pessimism. To me Trump has backed down yet again, for the 50th time. Frankly I think its Israel AND Iran who are playing him like a ping pong ball.
Trump will eventually accept his defeat.

In Iran, the U.S. Appears Headed for a Strategic Defeat, Allies Fear​

With none of President Trump’s aims accomplished and the Strait of Hormuz closed, U.S. allies see dysfunction and vulnerability from the war.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/01/world/middleeast/us-iran-war-strategy.html

 

[Imran S]

Qalibaf and Argachi and Pezeskhian have surrendered the country once more.

Iran’s leaders once again demonstrate they are clowns and they love being apart of Trump’s circus

you really want hundreds of common people to die, Iran has fought bravely up until now, but ultimate solution is negotiation and Peace. One bomb once fall near you and all your views will be changed. We must all prepare ourselves for future but at this stage continuous fighting without further addition to AD and missiles will cause only succide

 

[KAL-EL]

Ebrahim Rezaei, a member of Iran's Parliament National Security Commission, warned that if Iran is attacked, it will return the entire region and its infrastructure to the "Stone Age," adding, "It's in your interest not to do anything foolish."

Strong words.. but I'll believe it when I see it

 

[RzA]

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[ShapurII]

There's no last minute peace deal.

Possibly Iran has hit the Kurdish insurgents so hard last night that they have told Trump they wouldn't launch their ground operations, or Trump needs more time to coordinate his attack for another shock and awe.

The attack is certain in my opinion. Both Trump and Netanyahu have agreed on this.

 

[Nawnaw1]

There's no last minute peace deal.

Possibly Iran has hit the Kurdish insurgents so hard last night that they have told Trump they wouldn't launch their ground operations, or Trump needs more time to coordinate his attack for another shock and awe.

The attack is certain in my opinion. Both Trump and Netanyahu have agreed on this.

I don´t think for a second the air campaign against Iran, if agreed to by those 2, would depend on the terrorists in Northern Iraq. If they were such an important element of toppling the government, they would have been better protected. That's what I think.

Their numbers just aren't there.

 

[Flotilla]

What makes you think Iran are surrendering?

Give them credit where it is due. Iran is reviewing the proposal while simultaneously launching drone strikes in Erbil and Kuwait. They may have been passive at first, but they have clearly raised the stakes and showed more initiative to strike first. Ultimately, even a massive military campaign by Trump won't reopen the Strait of Hormuz. He needs to accept that he is backed into a submission, and he is not breaking this arm lock.

Even those reformists knows that Irán will never be back being the Islamic Republic.
So, we must conclude Irán is earning more time for nuclear weapons.

 

[ShapurII]

I don´t think for a second the air campaign against Iran, if agreed to by those 2, would depend on the terrorists in Northern Iraq. If they were such an important element of toppling the government, they would have been better protected. That's what I think.

Their numbers just aren't there.

5K-10K is large enough to cause distraction, particularly if the nature of this distraction is separatism. They want to stretch our forces thin. It's not that hard to understand how they can be useful.

Kurdistan of Iran temporarily fell to the hands of the separatists during the Iraq-Iran war, even though they were not even half as powerful as they're now, and it was a major distraction for our forces, even though both the Iraqis and the Kurds were fighting us in the west of the country. Now imagine the US attacks us from the south and the Kurds distract us in the west.

The US has gathered around 50K forces. They won't attack us from only one direction with barely 50K forces.

 

[Nawnaw1]

5K-10K is large enough to cause distraction, particularly if the nature of this distraction is separatism. They want to stretch our forces thin. It's not that hard to understand how they can be useful.

Kurdistan of Iran temporarily fell to the hands of the separatists during the Iraq-Iran war, even though they were not even half as powerful as they're now, and it was a major distraction for our forces, even though both the Iraqis and the Kurds were fighting us in the west of the country. Now imagine the US attacks us from the south and the Kurds distract us in the west.

The US has gathered around 50K forces. They won't attack us from only one direction with barely 50K forces.

I agree, but this war is different than that war. That was a full on land/air war. Mostly land. This is a missile-war, if we can call it that. The US hasn't gathered 50k infantry or something, it's their total force posture as I understand. Meaning the full amount of troops officialy in the region, at the beginning of the war. That includes all of those troops from abandoned bases in hotels etc.

In any case yeah 50k troops means about 15-20k infantry/fighters and the rest is logistics and support.

But I concur they can cause a (major) distraction. But in this day and age, I don't think Iran can freely have large amounts of soldiers walk around or group up freely. They can be easy targets, especially in the Western parts of the country. So this would (I hope if they are prepared) an FPV type of ground war, where Iranian government forces (lets call them that, including police etc. probably) that will handle any incursion.

But I still think a ground incursion by any forces, whether puppets or the US itself, would only happen after the Iranian central government is sufficiently weakened in that it can't respond in a large manner anymore.

I saw satanyahu a few days ago talking about Hormuz isn't that important, we can 'bypass it' by pipelines through Isn'nreal lol. That means imo that they conceded Hormuz control to Iran in their strategic thinking.

 

[Flotilla]

Strong words.. but I'll believe it when I see it

Don't be so particular about the truth. You’ve bought into the bullshit from Trump, Hegseth, and the Pentagon Ranch from minute one.