Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
The reformists and pragmatists continue to sell the country to America! No strikes tonight while they try to convince Trump to buy their country

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They are not fuc...g each other intensively in their gays bars. Hence they may be working on the next Iran attack OR they do so directly in the White House !
 
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IL red alert and Axios are NOT neutral and reliable ........
 
And I think the pinpoint precision strikes on Jordan had a lot to do with it as well. They keep calculating and re-calculating. I have a hunch they had no plan B. This was a plan A thing and if Hormuz didn't happen, they would just sit back relax and mow the lawn every once and then.

I genuinely think it's just a few people in the US, maybe 5-6 people, who do all the decision making. Of course the powers that be behind the scenes. Thats why you see this haphazard way of decisionmaking.
 
Arash said:
IL red alert and Axios are NOT neutral and reliable ........
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USA always does the same before real attack against Iran.

A lot of false imminent attacks, well staged with real movements.

It's like they are saying: we want big real bombs from you, prepare yourself.

The target is to destabilize the zone, it's not to win the war, that's the reason because USA warns so many times before real attack. Although maybe internally they say it's to see Iran movements before attacks.

In last war. Bibi meeting to Trump was 17 days before war. So next real war must be around Aug 14th (July 28th, last Bibi visit to whitehouse, + 17 days)
 
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Pound those dogs brutally and non stoply. Even after the US f*cks off. Endless pounding. Until they close camp. Same as what we did in Iraq with the socalled MEK idiots. Relegate those few idiots to Albania or Zimbabwe in the future.
 
Nawnaw1 said:
But I concur they can cause a (major) distraction. But in this day and age, I don't think Iran can freely have large amounts of soldiers walk around or group up freely. They can be easy targets, especially in the Western parts of the country. So this would (I hope if they are prepared) an FPV type of ground war, where Iranian government forces (lets call them that, including police etc. probably) that will handle any incursion.

But I still think a ground incursion by any forces, whether puppets or the US itself, would only happen after the Iranian central government is sufficiently weakened in that it can't respond in a large manner anymore.
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The second paragraph of the part I have quoted is exactly what I'm worried about. Of course, the US wouldn't launch a ground invasion of Iran when it knows Iran can fight back and defeat them. They will wait until Iran has been weakened enough after multiple rounds of war and months of blockade.

The truth is that Iran cannot sustain this situation for 2 years. After 6 months to 12 months at best, assuming the same intensity since February 28th, most of our missiles capable of hitting Jordan and Israel will have been used. We're already firing unpainted missiles, which means that we're getting close to the end of our old missile stockpile.

Using FPVs is a great solution provided that Iran can mass produce them in millions. Ukraine is producing 6 million FPVs per year and it's still losing territory to Russia! 6 million FPVs in a year, that is possibly beyond Iran's industrial capacity in this situation. The US Army is better organized and equipped than the Russians and Iran does not have the entire NATO backing it unlike Ukraine. Unlike Ukraine, nobody is going to donate $300-$400 billion to Iran to fight against the US.

Nawnaw1 said:
I saw satanyahu a few days ago talking about Hormuz isn't that important, we can 'bypass it' by pipelines through Isn'nreal lol. That means imo that they conceded Hormuz control to Iran in their strategic thinking.
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Israel is pretty OK with the situation of the Strait of Hormuz as it has been lobbying to turn Israel into a major route for energy transport. Arabs are panicking and the US feels its hegemony has been challenged. Other than that, the Strait of Hormuz isn't the main concern or issue in the long term. Iran's nuclear program and our ballistic missiles continue to remain the real issues. Even our proxies are no longer a major issue.
 
Flotilla said:
Don't be so particular about the truth. You’ve bought into the bullshit from Trump, Hegseth, and the Pentagon Ranch from minute one.
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Umm actually no, I haven't.

As I already stated, I'll believe it when I see it.

Pretty straightforward
 
I think Iran isnt making the war costly enough for America and the Arabs. Israel is well protected, and no amount of damage is going to make them back down. Its a religious war for them. They need to fulfill their prophecy. Even if we win and outlast Trump. The Israelis will do everything they can to influence the next president and push for another war.
 
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