Pakistan UAVs News & Discussions

[That_Guy]

Their Xpear MX-150 looks suspiciously like the next-gen Zala Lancet drone

It's already been said before, but the design is very common and used by multiple nations and OEMs.

 

[Jango]

A source would be better with these kinds of posts, no? I can't find anything on mainstream media. Also I think there is already a dedicated thread for the op, lest we derail this one.

Edit - found the source in social media, looks like a bomb drop from quadcopter drone than a proper drone strike.

Quadcopters dropping mortars probably suggests an infantry unit using them.

Perhaps the delay with PAF drone strikes is the coordination between PAF and the guy on the ground? But I guess that shouldn't be a problem now after all these years.

So it is puzzling indeed.

We should be having drone cover for convoys in Balochistan., if not all, at least 50%.

My bet is just institutional disconnect.

 

[JamD]

If it hasn't happened already, it is very close to happen. The TTP are going to use this mortar on quad thing against PA. We better have good countermeasures for these things. They are extremely low on the tech ladder these days and entirely within the TTP's reach.

 

[Cipher212]

If it hasn't happened already, it is very close to happen. The TTP are going to use this mortar on quad thing against PA. We better have good countermeasures for these things. They are extremely low on the tech ladder these days and entirely within the TTP's reach.

Very serious question on this. In Pakistan's case, considering our vast population and low salaries, is it cheaper to safeguard the jawaans we currently have with jammers and armoured trucks, or just recruit more fodder?

 

[hussain0216]

Very serious question on this. In Pakistan's case, considering our vast population and low salaries, is it cheaper to safeguard the jawaans we currently have with jammers and armoured trucks, or just recruit more fodder?

Respectfully, it's just to recruit more fodder

The reality is terrorism isn't massive in Pakistan

If you add up all the deaths security forces may suffer in a year, it will be maybe 100-300 on average or something like that

Pakistan is a nation of 240 million, with army of 700,000 approx, hundreds of thousands of further paramilitaries and millions of police or security of some sort


Military might want good tech to protect their soldiers, but considering death numbers, they will continue to push for IBOs and offensive tactics to destroy the enemy rather then employ expense options when they have limited funds

 

[That_Guy]

Quadcopters dropping mortars probably suggests an infantry unit using them.

Perhaps the delay with PAF drone strikes is the coordination between PAF and the guy on the ground? But I guess that shouldn't be a problem now after all these years.

So it is puzzling indeed.

We should be having drone cover for convoys in Balochistan., if not all, at least 50%.

My bet is just institutional disconnect.

It could also be cost of operation that they're not getting coverage.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

It could also be cost of operation that they're not getting coverage.

Pretty sure training and arming hundreds (if not thousands) of platoons across the KP/Balochistan with quadcopters is far more costly than a dedicated MALE UCAV squadron on stand by.

Not saying we shouldn't arm and train our infantry in UAV warfare on squad/platoons levels considering the evolving nature of war.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

Atleast 3 more hangers being added to Murid Airbase, south of the original 8. (Most likely complete by now).

 

[farooqbhai]

Atleast 3 more hangers being added to Murid Airbase, south of the original 8. (Most likely complete by now).
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Most interesting thing is what appears to be atleast 3 x GCS Set's of Shahpar-2 are operational. Which means around 6 UAVs (2 per GCS).

 

[Corax]

It's already been said before, but the design is very common and used by multiple nations and OEMs.

I was referring to this configuration. I've only ever seen the new Russian Lancet drone adopt this design, haven't seen any other drone.



And Woot Tech's Xpear MX-150

 

[hussain0216]

I was referring to this configuration. I've only ever seen the new Russian Lancet drone adopt this design, haven't seen any other drone.

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And Woot Tech's Xpear MX-150

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Woot tech is a private company? Have their products been sold to anyone or been picked up by the Pakistani military?

 

[Corax]

Woot tech is a private company? Have their products been sold to anyone or been picked up by the Pakistani military?

Yes, it appears to be a private company. I don't know too much about the company or whether they've had much success in selling their products, I just found it interesting that they've adopted a similar design concept as the next gen Lancet drone.

 

[Bilal]

I was referring to this configuration. I've only ever seen the new Russian Lancet drone adopt this design, haven't seen any other drone.

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And Woot Tech's Xpear MX-150

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Loitering munitions – HERO

The HERO series of high precision loitering munition systems provides operating forces in the modern battlefield with the ultimate operational flexibility.

www.rheinmetall.com

Hungary orders Hero-120 loitering munitions

Hungary has signed a deal with Rheinmetall for the supply of the Hero-120 loitering munition system. The contract, worth 140 million euros, was signed on July 20 and includes the delivery of 40 Hero-120 systems and 400 munitions, as well as training and support services. The Hero-120 is a small...

www.defencetoday.com

 

[Corax]

Loitering munitions – HERO

The HERO series of high precision loitering munition systems provides operating forces in the modern battlefield with the ultimate operational flexibility.

www.rheinmetall.com

Hungary orders Hero-120 loitering munitions

Hungary has signed a deal with Rheinmetall for the supply of the Hero-120 loitering munition system. The contract, worth 140 million euros, was signed on July 20 and includes the delivery of 40 Hero-120 systems and 400 munitions, as well as training and support services. The Hero-120 is a small...

www.defencetoday.com

Interesting, thanks for sharing, seems to be a more similar design with that from Woot Tech.

 

[That_Guy]

I was referring to this configuration. I've only ever seen the new Russian Lancet drone adopt this design, haven't seen any other drone.

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And Woot Tech's Xpear MX-150

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I remember seeing this design by other companies as well, don't remember which because it was years ago, but it's a common design.