LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
Thank you for that response, saved me a lot of typing. Some people just love a good conspiracy without having any idea how this whole thing traspired.
Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards
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Thank you for that response, saved me a lot of typing. Some people just love a good conspiracy without having any idea how this whole thing traspired.
UKBengali
Elite Member
Oh dear.
Did you not get the memo that BD population and BA would topple any government that even thinks about establishing a foreign military base in BD?
There is no US "decision" to be made here. lol.
LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
There are actual freedom fighters or Mukti Bahini who support BNP (the main opposition). Heck, BNPs founder was a Mukti himself.
There are non-political former Mukti Bahini members protested to take down Hasina but still admire Sheikh Mujib.
Please don't conflate Mukti Bahini of 1971 with Sheikh Hasina's Awami League. One is respected and loved in BD, the latter is not.
hembo
Trusted Member
The news is in all major news websites. Just google.
LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
Awami League MPs getting caught trying to flee across the country
Some even wore burka while fleeing.
Former law and home ministers' location are currently unknown. Many former MPs and former ministers were not able to flee.
Former ICT minister Junaed Polok and Foreign minister Hasan Mahmud was arrested at airport while trying to catch a flight.
The video is in Bengali
Some even wore burka while fleeing.
Former law and home ministers' location are currently unknown. Many former MPs and former ministers were not able to flee.
Former ICT minister Junaed Polok and Foreign minister Hasan Mahmud was arrested at airport while trying to catch a flight.
The video is in Bengali
AbuShalehRumi
Trusted Member
I wasn't trying to convince you or anyone. I was just showing you our side of the story. Which is, every awami league supporters are fuked. In Bangladesh Hindus are well known vote bank and foot soldiers of BAL. So hindus involved in BAL political activities are fuked too. And no body cares...
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ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Bangladesh army refused to suppress protest, sealing Hasina’s fate: report
General Wakeruz Zaman, who is related to Hasina by marriage, had showed signs of wavering in his support for the prime minister on Saturday.Reuters
August 7, 2024
The night before long-time leader Sheikh Hasina abruptly fled Bangladesh amid deadly protests, her army chief held a meeting with his generals and decided that troops would not open fire on civilians to enforce a curfew, two serving army officers with knowledge of the discussions told Reuters.
General Wakeruz Zaman then reached out to Hasina’s office, conveying to the prime minister that his soldiers would be unable to implement the lockdown she had called for, according to an Indian official briefed on the matter.
The message was clear, the official said: Hasina no longer had the army’s support.
Details of the online meeting between military top brass and the message to Hasina that she had lost their backing have not previously been reported.
They help to explain how Hasina’s 15-year rule, during which she brooked little dissent, came to such a chaotic and sudden end on Monday, when she fled from Bangladesh to India.
The nationwide curfew had been imposed after at least 91 people were killed and hundreds injured in nationwide clashes on Sunday, the deadliest day since student-led protests against Hasina began in July.
Army spokesman Lt. Col. confirmed the Sunday evening discussions, which he described as a regular meeting to take updates after any disturbance. He did not provide details when presented with additional questions about decision-making at that meeting.
Hasina could not be reached and her son and advisor, Sajeeb Wazed, did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
Members of the army clear an entrance of the Ganabhaban, the Bangladeshi prime minister’s residence, a day after the resignation of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, in Dhaka, Bangladesh, August 6, 2024. — Reuters
Reuters spoke to ten people familiar with the events of the past week, including four serving army officers and two other informed sources in Bangladesh, to piece together the final 48 hours of Hasina’s reign. Many of them spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.
Hasina, who has ruled Bangladesh for 20 of the last 30 years, was elected to a fourth term leading the country of 170 million in January, after arresting thousands of opposition leaders and workers. That election was boycotted by her main rivals.
Her iron-fisted grasp on power has been challenged since summer by protests triggered by a court ruling to reserve government jobs — heavily coveted amid high youth unemployment — for certain segments of the population. The decision was overturned but the demonstrations had quickly morphed into a movement to oust Hasina.
Zaman has not publicly explained his decision to withdraw support from Hasina. But the scale of the protests and a death toll of at least 241 made supporting Hasina at all costs untenable, three former senior Bangladesh army officers told Reuters.
“There was a lot of uneasiness within the troops,” said retired Brig. Gen. M. Sakhawat Hossain. “That is what probably (put) pressure on the chief of army staff, because the troops are out and they are seeing what is happening.”
Zaman, who is related to Hasina by marriage, had showed signs of wavering in his support for the prime minister on Saturday, when he sat on an ornate wooden chair and addressed hundreds of uniformed officers in a town hall meeting. The military later made some details of that discussion public.
The general declared that lives had to be protected and called on his officers to show patience, said army spokesman Chowdhury.
It was the first indication that Bangladesh’s army would not forcefully suppress the violent demonstrations, leaving Hasina vulnerable.
Retired senior soldiers such as Brig. Gen. Mohammad Shahedul Anam Khan were among those who defied the curfew on Monday and took to the streets.
“We were not stopped by the army,” said Khan, a former infantry soldier. “The army has done what he had promised the army would do.”
On Monday, the first full day of the indefinite nationwide curfew, Hasina was holed up inside the Ganabhaban, or “People’s Palace”, a heavily-guarded complex in the capital Dhaka that serves as her official residence.
Outside, on the streets of the sprawling city, crowds gathered. Tens of thousands of people had answered protest leaders’ call for a march to oust the leader, streaming into the heart of the city.
With the situation spiralling out of her control, the 76-year-old leader decided to flee the country on Monday morning, according to the Indian official and two Bangladesh nationals familiar with the matter.
Hasina and her sister, who lives in London but was in Dhaka at the time, discussed the matter and flew out together, according to a Bangladesh source. They left for India around lunch, local time.
Indian foreign minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar told parliament on Tuesday that New Delhi had urged “various political forces with whom we were in touch” to resolve the situation via dialogue throughout July.
But as crowds gathered in Dhaka on Monday ignoring the curfew, Hasina decided to resign “after a meeting with leaders of the security establishment”, he added. “At very short notice, she requested approval to come for the moment to India.”
A second Indian official said it was “diplomatically” conveyed to Hasina that her stay had to be temporary for fear of negatively impacting Delhi’s ties with the next government in Dhaka. India’s Ministry of External Affairs did not immediately return a request for comment.
People visit the Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Memorial Museum, which was vandalised after the resignation of Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, in Dhaka, Bangladesh, August 6, 2024. — Reuters
Nobel laureate Muhammad Yunus, whom the protesting students want to lead the interim government after Hasina’s ouster, told The New Indian Express newspaper that India had “good ties with the wrong people… Please revisit your foreign policy.”
Yunus wasn’t immediately available for an interview.
Late in the afternoon on Monday, a Bangladesh Air Force C130 transport aircraft landed at Hindon air base outside Delhi, with Hasina on board.
There, she was met by Ajit Doval, India’s powerful national security advisor, according to the Indian security official.
Delhi had fought to carve Bangladesh out of East Pakistan in 1971. After Hasina’s father was assassinated in 1975, Hasina took refuge in India for years and built deep links with her neighbour’s political elite.
Returning to Bangladesh, she gained power in 1996, and was seen as more sensitive to India’s security concerns than her political rivals. The Hindu-majority nation also regarded her secular stance as favourable for the 13 million Hindus in Bangladesh.
But back in Bangladesh, resentment still lingered even among retired soldiers that Hasina had been allowed to leave.
“Personally, I feel that she should not have been given a safe passage,” said Khan, the veteran. “That was a folly.”
Header image: People shake hands with army personnel as they celebrate the resignation of Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in Dhaka, Bangladesh, August 5, 2024. — Reuters
hembo
Trusted Member
Before declaring something nonsense, one should do some basic research.. All quick gun murugans... not expected of a Mod.
This is from Dhaka Tribune,, Dailystar BD, Belaraus, Azarbaizan newsite, in case Indian news sites are not acceptable.
Arson attack at Jessore hotel: Death toll climbs to 24
More than 150 patients were admitted to the hospital due to the fire incident
06 AUGUST 2024, 18:57
Bangladesh hotel fire kills at least 24 people
Bangladesh hotel fire kills at least 24 people
24 killed as mob set fire to hotel owned by AL leader in Jashore
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ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Bangladesh protests united all kinds of opposition forces that had been suppressed by the state
It was not just political repression but also the rising cost of living that fuelled the unrest.
LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
You should have started with the Bangladeshi source. My apologies for calling it nonsense, there are far too much Indian BS out there.
Joe Shearer
Professional
This is puzzling.
My position is not against SHW. It is for the secular forces that the Awami League originally represented, and against those who had no such DNA, and I've written as much on an earlier post.
However, as far as the current situation is considered, even while she may have done invaluable and fundamental service to her country, she let her insecurity take her into an unwholesome blind alley, where finally her own people, outside her loyal party colleagues - there were many of them - began to hate her and to struggle to free themselves of her. There is nothing that an outsider, and irrespective of my blood ties with Bangladesh, as an Indian citizen I am an outsider, can say or do that is relevant to the actions that the Bangladeshi citizens have taken.
What about the Indian situation and its similarities and dissimilarities with that in Bangladesh today?
It has long been a hobby horse of mine that the liberal and secular element in India took its eyes off the ball, and failed itself and the country utterly by failing to push through UNIVERSAL primary education (at the very least) for all the people, irrespective of caste, creed or ethnicity. It is because of this signal failure that regressive and backward looking forces, steeped in religious bigotry, and as stupid as they come, managed to fool some of the people some of the time, and come to power. If anything should be the first, and critical, life-or-death priority at fundamental level (there are other, more urgent tactical priorities - jobs, and roti/kapda/makan, fair treatment by the law and its officers, decent and all-pervasive health care), it should be primary education.
Finally, a question for you - whatever gave you the impression of any contrary view held by me?
Joe Shearer
Professional
I am sorry, really sorry to see this post.
Dalit
Elite Member
They never wanted relations with a bully like India. Especially under the leadership of a Hindu bigot Modi. Don't impose yourself.
UKBengali
Elite Member
Yes is true as Dhaka Tribune is a reliable source.
Too many BD posters have a "relaxed" attitude to the orgy of revenge killings and "mob justice" without understanding that it is this attitude that has held BD back for decades.
They need to stop thinking emotionally and more rationally.
However I do disagree with Indian posters that Hindus are being specifically targeted. The mobs are out to lynch any AL member or supporter they can find, which is of course totally unacceptable.
I am worried about the future of BD with the wanton disregard for life and property that we are seeing now.
Circadian Rhythm
Banned
I would believe it when the New Government in Bangladesh says this officially
Bangladesh is Absolutely free to
Break up all relations with India
Do you mean to say that Her economic policies harmed Bangladesh and Benefited India
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