R80 Aircraft Program, Indonesian 80-90 seats Civilian turboprop plane Program
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According to Ilham Habibie, R80 basic design is 99 % completed. Critical Design (Detail Design) phase is waiting Indonesian Aerospace to join the program. I expect Indonesian Aerospace to join as N219 Amphibious and KF21/IFX development program are likely to complete in 2026.
N219 Amphibious design phase has been completed though, so where those hundreds design engineers would want to do ? R80 program is the right answer
We can see R80 program has undergone wind tunnel test from this Youtube channel.
N219 Amphibious design phase has been completed though, so where those hundreds design engineers would want to do ? R80 program is the right answer
We can see R80 program has undergone wind tunnel test from this Youtube channel.
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Bappenas gives five recommendations for R-80 aircraft development
January 25, 2023 16:20 GMT+700
Screenshot–Minister for National Development Planning (Bappenas), Suharso Monoarfa, received a visit from representatives of PT Regio Aviasi Industri in Jakarta on Wednesday (January 25, 2023). (ANTARA/M. Baqir Idrus Alatas)
Jakarta (ANTARA) - Minister for National Development Planning (Bappenas) Suharso Monoarfa has provided five recommendations for the proposed development of R-80 aircraft, which is being pushed by PT Regio Aviasi Industri (RAI).
The development of the aircraft has become one of the government's initiatives, as outlined in the 2022–2045 Road Map for the Development of the Indonesian Aerospace Industry Ecosystem.
"The first (recommendation) is that PT RAI's input has been accommodated in the 2022–2045 Indonesian Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Development Road Map," Monarfa said on his Instagram account @suharsomonoarfa, after a meeting with RAI officials in Jakarta on Wednesday.
Second, his ministry will conduct a roadshow at ministries/institutions (K/L) to ensure the adoption of the road map. The roadshow is expected to build stronger support, especially for research collaboration and strategic partnership building.
"Third, a request for support for the formation of a PMO (Program Management Organization), specifically for the R-80 can be facilitated through the PMO recommended by the 2022–2045 Indonesian Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Development Road Map to be formed under the coordination of the aerospace industry policy committee," Monoarfa said.
Furthermore, the R-80 aircraft is included in the Turboprop type aircraft category and has a capacity of fewer than 100 passengers, which is the focus of the aerospace product pillar of the 2022–2045 road map.
The potential market for R-80 aircraft is considered to be prospective, but with tough competition from global players such as Avions de transport régional (ATR), Bombardier, and China COMAC.
"Fifth, the need for PT RAI to build strategic partnerships with production partners can be facilitated by the government in the form of an endorsement without strings attached (acknowledgment without providing guarantees or funding)," Monoarfa said.
Bappenas gives five recommendations for R-80 aircraft development
Minister for National Development Planning (Bappenas) Suharso Monoarfa has provided five recommendations for the proposed development of R-80 aircraft, which ...
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Transfer of PT Dirgantara Indonesia to Majalengka Approved by Jokowi
REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, BANDUNG - PT Dirgantara Indonesia (DI) will be moved to the West Java International Airport (BIJB) Kertajati, Majalengka. The transfer of the aircraft industry has received the blessing of President Joko Widodo.
"PT DI is planned to move from Bandung. But still in West Java. Because if in Bandung it is too full," said Director of PT DI Budi Santoso, after meeting West Java Governor Ahmad Heryawan at Gedung Sate, Bandung, Thursday (18/8).
According to Budi, the transfer of PT DI to Kertajati has been decided by President Joko Widodo (Jokowi). Because, currently PT DI based in the area of Husein Sastranegara Airport is considered not feasible with an area of only 50 hectares.
Budi said, when holding a meeting with the president, he was once asked about the area of PT DI which turned out to be only 50 hectares. "The production of such aircraft, not advanced. Finally Mr. President (choose) in Kertajati," Budi said.
PT DI, he said, in Kertajati is promised to occupy about 200-300 hectares of land in the international airport area. Because, based on the directives from President Jokowi, the new land that will be occupied by PT DI must be five times to six times the current land.
"The plan is that in the next 2-3 years we are likely to be able to move to prepare the facility. It's important, there's the land first," he said.
Possibly, he said, PT DI will move after West Java International Airport (BIJB) is finished standing. Later, PT DI land in Bandung will now be returned to the country because the one that has is the state.
"The possibility of PT DI which is here (City of Bandung) is still there for equipment (main tool of the resistance system, red) because we will also make fighter aircraft," he said.
The construction of Kertajati is currently continuing to be carried out considering 2017, the airport can operate. The construction of Kertajati Airport was also carried out to replace the function of Husein Sastranegara Airport.
Pemindahan PT Dirgantara Indonesia ke Majalengka Disetujui Jokowi |Republika Online
<p>REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, BANDUNG -- PT Dirgantara Indonesia (DI) akan dipindahkan ke kawasan Bandar Udara Internasional Jawa Barat (BIJB) Kertajati, Majalengka. Pemindahan industri pesawat terbang ini sudah mendapat restu dari Presiden Joko Widodo.<br /><br />PT DI rencananya akan pindah dari...
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N219 Basic and N219 Amphibious program are the start before entering the bigger 80-90 seats civilian plane program with advanced FBW system.
Naturally, it should be R80 that will be pursue after Indonesian Aerospace completed its N219 program type certification in 2020 and possibly N219 Amphibious type certification in 2027 (Local and FAA certification).
Indonesian Aerospace has already had office in Seatle USA as well to support their products.
https://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/about/subsidiaries
We are now waiting new government under Prabowo support.
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Naturally, it should be R80 that will be pursue after Indonesian Aerospace completed its N219 program type certification in 2020 and possibly N219 Amphibious type certification in 2027 (Local and FAA certification).
Indonesian Aerospace has already had office in Seatle USA as well to support their products.
https://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/about/subsidiaries
We are now waiting new government under Prabowo support.
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N-219 to go through static and fatigue tests in 2017
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If N219 Amphibious Development is completed inshaAllah, then the next step should be developing R80 planes which mean Indonesian Aerospace is entering bigger commercial transport plane business.
Based on Prabowo statement in G20 Brazil, Prabowo seems want to see the development of R80 right after the completion of N219 program amphibious by saying he want Indonesian Aerospace produce 17 seats plane until 35 seats plane (NC212i, N219, CN 235), and 100 seats plane (R80 ). He skipped 45 seat planes ( N245 - modification of CN 235). This statemen was made in the context of Indonesian Aerospace cooperation with Brazilian aerospace company, Embraer, signed in the side line of G20 meeting in Brazil.
Waiting the moment Indonesian Aerospace can build commercial planes for Garuda Indonesia and Lion Air
Based on Prabowo statement in G20 Brazil, Prabowo seems want to see the development of R80 right after the completion of N219 program amphibious by saying he want Indonesian Aerospace produce 17 seats plane until 35 seats plane (NC212i, N219, CN 235), and 100 seats plane (R80 ). He skipped 45 seat planes ( N245 - modification of CN 235). This statemen was made in the context of Indonesian Aerospace cooperation with Brazilian aerospace company, Embraer, signed in the side line of G20 meeting in Brazil.
Waiting the moment Indonesian Aerospace can build commercial planes for Garuda Indonesia and Lion Air
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Alhamdulillah, look like R80 will be developed under Prabowo Administration inshaAllah
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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (17/11) – PTDI and Embraer have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to expand collaboration in the commercial aviation industry.
The MoU was signed during the Indonesia-Brazil CEO Forum led by Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto, on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in Brazil, witnessed by several important Indonesian figures, including the Coordinating Minister for Economic Affairs of the Republic of Indonesia Airlangga Hartarto, the Special Envoy of the President of the Republic of Indonesia Hashim Djojohadikusumo and the Chairman of the Indonesian Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KADIN) Anindya Bakrie.
Through this MoU, Embraer and PTDI will conduct a joint study to evaluate opportunities for cooperation in the commercial aviation sector, especially in the areas of engineering and the provision of aeronautical structures. The framework for this cooperation will follow strict commercial and technical standards, ensuring alignment with industry best practices and business objectives.
Both companies are committed to exploring opportunities that add value to both parties, while maintaining the highest standards of quality and performance in aerospace manufacturing.
"I really welcome the cooperation between Embraer and our Aerospace company, Dirgantara, so I also plan to increase Dirgantara's capacity. I will make new investments and produce small regional aircraft, especially those with a capacity of between 17 to 35 passengers, up to 100 passengers, so yes, I welcome and support this cooperation between Embraer and Dirgantara," President Prabowo said at the forum.#PTDI #Embraer #BusinessForum #G20Summit
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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (17/11) – PTDI and Embraer have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to expand collaboration in the commercial aviation industry.
The MoU was signed during the Indonesia-Brazil CEO Forum led by Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto, on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in Brazil, witnessed by several important Indonesian figures, including the Coordinating Minister for Economic Affairs of the Republic of Indonesia Airlangga Hartarto, the Special Envoy of the President of the Republic of Indonesia Hashim Djojohadikusumo and the Chairman of the Indonesian Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KADIN) Anindya Bakrie.
Through this MoU, Embraer and PTDI will conduct a joint study to evaluate opportunities for cooperation in the commercial aviation sector, especially in the areas of engineering and the provision of aeronautical structures. The framework for this cooperation will follow strict commercial and technical standards, ensuring alignment with industry best practices and business objectives.
Both companies are committed to exploring opportunities that add value to both parties, while maintaining the highest standards of quality and performance in aerospace manufacturing.
"I really welcome the cooperation between Embraer and our Aerospace company, Dirgantara, so I also plan to increase Dirgantara's capacity. I will make new investments and produce small regional aircraft, especially those with a capacity of between 17 to 35 passengers, up to 100 passengers, so yes, I welcome and support this cooperation between Embraer and Dirgantara," President Prabowo said at the forum.#PTDI #Embraer #BusinessForum #G20Summit
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1/ A photo last November at one of PT. Dirgantara Indonesia's hangars--CN235 N071 transport variant for the Indonesian Navy--NC212i N126 for the Indonesian Air Force.
2/ Both aircraft are still in the assembly process. The fuselage integration of both aircraft has indeed been made in one hangar in the CN235 Major Assy hangar since 2019. Before that year, the major assy hangars of both aircraft were separate.
2/ Both aircraft are still in the assembly process. The fuselage integration of both aircraft has indeed been made in one hangar in the CN235 Major Assy hangar since 2019. Before that year, the major assy hangars of both aircraft were separate.
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KFX/IFX program is also good to modernize Indonesian Aerospace production line
Both pictures comes from Indonesian Aerospace that have 2 production hangars for IFX, composite hangar and final assembly. Component assembly and metal part production hangars are already exist
Both pictures comes from Indonesian Aerospace that have 2 production hangars for IFX, composite hangar and final assembly. Component assembly and metal part production hangars are already exist
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Bappenas' Efforts to Realize the Dream of Aerospace Industry Glory through Collaboration
Aircraft Hangar PT Dirgantara Indonesia /DIY News/ MR Firmansyah
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- 19 Desember 2022, 11:19 WIB
DIY NEWS - Twenty-seven years ago, the Hangar Main Assembly Line IPTN Husein Sastranegara Airport, Bandung, witnessed the first flight of the N-250 aircraft, Gatotkaca, which is the original aircraft made by the nation's children, Bacharuddin Jusuf Habibie.
On August 10, 1995, Gatotkaca's N-250 aircraft flew for the first time gallantly, dismissing the pessimistic tone of foreign media predicting this aircraft would crash. Gatotkaca became the first aircraft in the subsonic speed class with fly by wire technology or its entire motion was computerized controlled, which could be airborne without problems.
This momentum is predicted to be a milestone in the history of Indonesia's aerospace glory. The N-250 civilian passenger aircraft, which can accommodate 50 to 70 passengers on board, is projected to win market share of propeller-class aircraft.
But unfortunately, this dream fell apart when the monetary crisis hit Indonesia since 1997. This has an impact on aviation industry no longer able to get state financial support. Because to get out of the crisis, Indonesia must put aside this project as part of saving the economy.
Although the dream was dashed to the point of IPTN disbanded, which later changed its name to PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), but the Main Assembly Line hangar in the Husein Sastranegara Airport complex, Bandung, is now still firmly standing, keeping the dream of glory of the national aerospace industry.
When he visited it in October 2019, the paint on the hangar's iron structure had peeled off a lot. Even the glass of the room on the left side of the building looked dull, like it hadn't been used for a long time. The building, although magnificent, only looks like an ordinary old aircraft hangar.
But who would have thought, the hangar became a silent witness that the dream of homeland aerospace glory was treated. Also in October 2019, the Main Assembly Line hangar witnessed PTDI's CN235-220 military aircraft being exported to Nepal.
Export of PTDI-produced military aircraft to Nepal in front of the hangar of the Main Assembly Line News DIY/ MR Firmansyah
PTDI's Production Director, Batara Silaban, said that since 1976 until now, his party has sent 466 aircraft to more than 50 customers, both from within the country and abroad.
In producing the aircraft, there was the role of 3,700 PTDI workers, of which nearly 40 percent were engineers. He assessed that the aerospace human resources owned are reliable state assets in the future.
"These are indeed human resources who will certainly be able to contribute to the aerospace industry," he said in a Special Session at the Indonesia Development Forum 2022, Tuesday, November 22, 2022.
Indonesia Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Roadmap 2022-2045
Various types of aircraft have now been successfully produced by PTDI. There are 2 types of aircraft that can be made by the manufacturer from Bandung, namely fixed wing aircraft or fixed-wing aircraft and rotary wing aircraft or aircraft with rotary wings.
The fixed wing aircraft produced by PTDI include N219 Nurtanio, NC212 family, CN235 family, and CN295. The aircraft was built to meet the needs of civil airlines, military operators and special mission needs.
Meanwhile, the rotary wing aircraft that PTDI has successfully made are AS550 helicopters, A565 helicopters, Superpuma Family helicopters and Bell 412EP helicopters. This helicopter product is manufactured under agreement with Airbus Helicopter and Bell Helicopter Textron.
To increase the capacity of the domestic aerospace industry, the Ministry of National Development Planning or Bappenas, together with the Diaspora and Migration Program (PMD) GIZ and ITB published the Indonesian Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Roadmap 2022-2045.
The roadmap is expected to be a reference for aerospace industry stakeholders in supporting the integration of local industries, commercialization of research, design and development, fulfillment of quality standards, growth of new local players and supporting industries, and capacity expansion to participate in global supply chains.
In the 2022-2045 Indonesian aerospace industry ecosystem roadmap, there are 2 pillars set, including the aerospace product pillar, as well as aerospace services and supporting ecosystems. For the aerospace product pillar, it consists of the development of the aircraft industry as well as components and supply chains. Meanwhile, the aerospace services pillar and supporting ecosystem, consisting of maintenance, repair, overhaul and after-sales, as well as aviation and airport services.
Deputy for Economic Affairs Bappenas, Amalia Adininggar Widiyasanti, explained that when the aircraft industry is encouraged to develop, the related industries will be moved. Of course, this will create a positive double effect for the Indonesian economy.
"One of our keys to driving economic growth in the long haul can only be by increasing productivity. Without increased productivity, Indonesia cannot grow high sustainably for the long term," she explained.
Learning from the United States, according to her presentation, the aerospace industry is the industry with the second largest average wage rate after the IT sector. To increase sustainable per capita income, the development of the aerospace industry can be a solution.
"If we want to increase sustainable per capita income, because later this aerospace industry will encourage strategies to increase the productivity of the economic sector through the industrialization process," said Amalia.
This is very important, looking at the Indonesian Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Roadmap 2022-2045 prepared to achieve the vision of a Golden Indonesia in 2045, one of which is realizing a better and more equitable level of welfare of the Indonesian people with higher human quality.
In addition, the roadmap is also believed to be able to release Indonesia from the middle income trap to the upper class. Development aviation industry rated effective for achieving this goal.
"One thing that was said by the Minister (Bappenas, Suharso Monoarfa), that from the stage of industrialization in Indonesia, the rightmost (best) is the human capital intensive industry, where the human capital intensive industry is the industry that can provide the greatest added value among other industries," she said.
Indonesia Development Forum 2022 Dok Bappenas
In the Special Session session at the Indonesia Development Forum 2022, Amalia explained, in carrying out the 2022-2045 Indonesian Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Roadmap, a new financing scheme is needed so that it does not only rely on the State Budget. Learning from the case of the N250 aircraft, where its development stalled because its funding relied on the Government.
"To run the Aerospace Industry Ecosystem Roadmap, we definitely need financing. Because this development is expected not to be entirely dependent on the Government's budget, but how we mobilize new business models so that we can both encourage, develop, and realize Indonesia to become one of the leading aircraft manufacturers in the world," said Amalia.
https://beritadiy.pikiran-rakyat.com/nasional/pr-705988449/ikhtiar-bappenas-wujudkan-mimpi-kejayaan-industri-dirgantara-melalui-kolaborasi
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