PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

[Cash gk]

Many people use India as an example, saying it's an economy-based country, while we are a security-based country because our generals derive their power from this concept. I don’t blame them, as they are generals. Ninety percent of their thinking is limited because they only have two options in life: yes or no.

 

[Cash gk]

how to apply for kpk citizenship?

bhutto aur wardi keh karachi may nai raha jaye ga bhaion!

You should fight we should fight to defend the country with in our capacity. Stay strong stay positive

 

[Cash gk]

Watch this establishment tout threatening openy on national TV. Everyone knows where this coming from and who is behind this bloody dog. You will not get this in any civilised country where establishment touts threatening people.

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[PakAl]

Turkey is a secular country, and while I’m not fully sure about Indonesia and Malaysia, it seems that Islamism there hasn't yet reached the levels seen in Pakistan. If Indonesia and Malaysia experience the same kind of Islamization that Pakistan has, they may face similar issues to those Pakistan is currently dealing with.

What islamism in Pakistan? Majority of the political parties are secular, the military, establishment, waderas, landlords are all secular, they are the root cause of the problem due to corruption, bribery, betrayal, mismanagement, nepotism, low literacy rate is another issue. Pakistan needs major reforms, upgrade of the state institutions, rule of law, accountability.

 

[Cash gk]

Turkey is a secular country, and while I’m not fully sure about Indonesia and Malaysia, it seems that Islamism there hasn't yet reached the levels seen in Pakistan. If Indonesia and Malaysia experience the same kind of Islamization that Pakistan has, they may face similar issues to those Pakistan is currently dealing with.

Turkey Indonesia and Malaysia do not have our kind of Islam. they have Islam

 

[Cash gk]

DGISI - Retired, on extension
COAS- Retired
CAS - Retired, on extension

CJP - Badly wants extension

The circus of power hungry corrupt individuals. What a joke this country and its military has become. Zero Professionalism.

I told in my article many months ago qazi extension is diversion. Watch this kawaja asif

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[Cash gk]

I have written many months ago in my article Qazi extension is diversion. Just listen kawaj asif

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[PakAl]

Turkey Indonesia and Malaysia do not have our kind of Islam. they have Islam

Islam is same, the people are different, they are more educated 90%+ level whilst our is 40%, they are more tolerant people due to education and experience in dealing with foreign tourism, they understand different of opinion and people and how to deal with them, narrow mindset and jahalat is high in Pakistan. Our elites are educated but behave like jahils, at times education cannot fix the mindset, you need the right education, has our state/governments ever concentrated on that? We need major reforms but when the rulers are only worried about their power then it's difficult to make a change. Where is the great visionary leadership in Pakistan? People who see in to the future and make plans.

 

[Cash gk]

Islam is same, the people are different, they are more educated 90%+ level whilst our is 40%, they are more tolerant people due to education and experience in dealing with foreign tourism, they understand different of opinion and people and how to deal with them, narrow mindset and jahalat is high in Pakistan. Our elites are educated but behave like jahils, at times education cannot fix the mindset, you need the right education, has our state/governments ever concentrated on that? We need major reforms but when the rulers are only worried about their power then it's difficult to make a change. Where is the great visionary leadership in Pakistan? People who see in to the future and make plans.

Islam is light and education. When you say our 40% population is ignorant, that means don’t know Islam .

 

[PakAl]

Islam is light and education. When you say our 40% population is ignorant, that means don’t know Islam .

60% is ignorant. Believe it or not, people should visit Pakistan and speak to the people, the jahalat is extremely high, even the educated ones act all brown sahibs. We still live in the world where the powerful expect people to polish their shoes, just like how it used to be in the British times where the waderas ruled and the rest were their slaves. Look at Malaysia, Turkey and Iran which is our neighbour, how many provinces they have, the devolve of power to the grass root levels, the local government system, high courts in every province to provide justice. In Pakistan you cannot file a case without paying bribery, police will arrest and torture you if your weak, the people will have to then hold feet of local MNA to get any relief, without a powerful person you cannot go police station or they slap you hard. Who is responsible for this? The military or the people themselves who still vote for the same people, the police officers are selected by the local MNAs who then control them.

 

[Analyst]

These are minor issues, and things like immigration and refugee management can be handled effectively by an elected government. The narrative around these problems is largely influenced by Western propaganda—it's how they manage similar issues in their own countries. Such matters can be resolved when decisions are made by a government that is elected by the people. Elected governments derive their power from the people’s mandate, and they are held accountable because they know they have to return to the voters. This is the only long-term solution for Pakistan—allowing elected leaders to make decisions with the backing of the people, rather than relying on undemocratic or security-heavy approaches.

I wouldn't say it's minor, it's quite serious on the other hand and needs addressing.

 

[Analyst]

how to apply for kpk citizenship?

bhutto aur wardi keh karachi may nai raha jaye ga bhaion!

Pashtunistan, like Afghanistan, can only be for white noble Aryans. You must remain in Karachi, as we can not pollute it.

 

[PakAl]

100% agree Pakistanis sab haram khor hain even the rehri walla willingly pays bribes to do his business! is level tak toh corruption hai is qoum may!

Someone recently passed away in my family, he was in to politics so you have 100s of people visiting everyday for dua and condolences but the women who visit daily keep on stealing anything they find, even the tomatoes for handi keep going missing. The tomatoes may not be useful for them but in their minds they just want to cause you harm and make life difficult for the other person, even if their is a wedding, the people will on purpose waste food so the wedding holder gets embarrassed due to lack of food. This is unfortunately the majority mindset, now if their children are intelligent and educated themselves, their mindset will still be the same, to control and harm the weak or the good people, just make life miserable for the good people and they feel satisfaction due to this. You can imagine the rest, what the general population is capable off, the lies, deceit, propaganda, rumours, harm. The leaders or the MNA are the strongest amongst these people, they know the mindset of the people so they rule like them.

The only solution is to educate them with the right education, focusing on morals, values, ethics. The Turks teach children up to 7 years mostly these to make them a better person first and then concentrate on the rest.

 

[Cash gk]

I wouldn't say it's minor, it's quite serious on the other hand and needs addressing.

Only an elected government can fix this. There are no other options available—we tried those options in 1971. I wish we could have someone strong enough to bring those traitors to justice to start from who were responsible for the deaths of Muhammad Ali Jinnah and our first prime minister

 

[Liquidator]

The generals are doing whatever America tells them to do.

America is telling the generals to to things that are more likely to lead to the breakup of Pakistan. This includes things like not tackling separatist movements other than at face value.

This also includes doing things that will destabilise Pakistan...this includes a bad economy. They won't tell them directly...."you must destabilise Pakistan". But will say things like don't fully support CPEC. leave Chinese nationals unprotected....all these actions have consequences.

I've used baby language for the loyal donkeys on this forum.

Thank you.