Iranian Air Defence Systems | News and Discussions

[sutton9999]

this is it. thanks.

this is the Chinese Shennong Shield 3000 laser defence system

do you know its specs?

I don't, saw it on weibo

Sina Visitor System

 

[Hack-Hook]

Not necessarily.

There have been reports for at least two months of S-400 deliveries to Iran from both Zio-US and Russian sources.

Even if Iran was confident in Bavar-373 there is no real harm in having a couple of batteries of the proven S-400 to provide an additional layer of protection.

Also remember that Russia now has extensive experience in using S-400 against aircraft, missiles and also drones and so Iran will also get access to real world Russian experience with S-400.

While Bavar-373 may be up to par with S-300PMU2(which is near S-400 level as it uses so many S-400 components), Iran probably is still not up there with the S-400. I think the upgraded Bavar-373 to match or even exceed S-400 is still in testing.

bavar radar far surpass s-300 and s-400 radar specially when enemy actively try to jam them , its missile had lesser range

 

[jauk]

I don't, saw it on weibo

Sina Visitor System

Partisan just released a video on origin and specs.

 

[ToddE]

Not necessarily.

There have been reports for at least two months of S-400 deliveries to Iran from both Zio-US and Russian sources.

Not a single shred of evidence exists that Iran has S-400.

Iranian owned S-300 PMU2, Bavar-373 are already ~= S-400 so HIMAD is not what Iran needs.

Even if Iran was confident in Bavar-373 there is no real harm in having a couple of batteries of the proven S-400 to provide an additional layer of protection.

Stupid conjecture as Bavar-373, 3rd Khordad, S-300 PMU2 are deployed in field.

While Bavar-373 may be up to par with S-300PMU2(which is near S-400 level as it uses so many S-400 components), Iran probably is still not up there with the S-400. I think the upgraded Bavar-373 to match or even exceed S-400 is still in testing.

Read again, S-300 PMU2 = S-400 and Bavar-373 because of its datalinking with Search OTH+AESA radars and TVC guided Sayyad-4s with ARH running at 6+ Mach can shred any incoming jet into mince.

 

[ToddE]

More ADs systems are always welcome although I would say S-500 is more worthy purchase than S-400.

Iran’s S-300 order was on the small side for a country the size of Iran and the amount of threats it’s IADS (ie stress) would be facing in war. Iran need’s the densest air defense layers/rings on the planet. Just look at how many systems Russia and Ukraine have destroyed respectively on each other.

Only solution is domestic production because Russian tech is no longer at super power level. In many areas Iranian tech is exceeding Russian ones. Our HGVs, MaRVs, PBVs, MALEs, HIMADS are now multifold battle proven and better than Russian ones. It will be stupid to still be caught up in 80s thinking of oh great russia my saviour russia. They will take payments and they iran will be knocking on ICJ doors like the S-300 saga.

Also Mehran/Bavar-373 who knows what the production rates are at the current moment.

I wrote a very critical piece of information on Bavar-373 and what its designers did (settled in Germany) because of which program got late on old forum.

Iran needs better intelligence setup if we have decided to raise arms against the global mafia.

 

[ToddE]

Bavar-373 takes time to manufacture

Provide evidence or stop wasting time.

even if the manufacturers have been given the hurry up, S-400s also take time to manufacture. Even if Bava-373 is superior, what Iran also needs now is "combat mass" and "redundancy in its ADS", it is along those lines that Iran will look to supplement its local capabailities with foreign ones.

Since you know nothing about Iranian air defence so I will waste some minutes educating you.

The last time we tried procuring ADs from Russia, they took money and refused to deliver. We had to threaten them with an ICJ case. And that was just a few S-300PMU2/S-400 batteries. There is a reason Iranian HIMADs became a menace in a few years: Iranian leadership understood what Russia and China are like. They will sell you as a bargaining chip to the West the moment it deems suitable for them.

Technically Bavar-373 is a monstrous HIMAD that can do the following:

- Take data linked search cues from Dozens of Iranian OTH from thousand+ km away
- use its own 3 x AESA track radars (10000-16000 T/R GN modules each) to acquire targets (200-250+ at 400 KM)
- Launch TVC guided Sayyad-4 at 300 KM range, those missiles have ARH for zoning in on target then they are again Datalinked for terminal guidance. Each missile has a built-in ECM so the moment it gets illuminated for jamming, its processors refreshes the ARH scan, gets another encrypted data update from its battery if needed. I have no time otherwise I would have written more on this.
- Those missiles have a speed of 6-7 Mach, they can pull 20+ G's, good luck dodging them.
- Bavar-373 has another multi-missile SHORAD+HIMAD version called Mehran that can launch IIR imaging All aspect SHORADS pulling 25 G's to 300 KM ranging ARH sayyad missiles.

Why would Iran need to get into another Russian trap for S-400, when the above system is available at home?

The monsters are at the gates of Iran, and they mean to do harm. Iran needs to get its offensive and defensive systems in place and actually prepare for a real hot war. S-400s will help in that effort, even if they are "inferior" to Bavar-373's .........................

Our IADS is a beast, rest does not matter.

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...s-news-and-discussions.60/page-31#post-322063

 

[UKBengali]

Not a single shred of evidence exists that Iran has S-400.

Iranian owned S-300 PMU2, Bavar-373 are already ~= S-400 so HIMAD is not what Iran needs.



Stupid conjecture as Bavar-373, 3rd Khordad, S-300 PMU2 are deployed in field.




Read again, S-300 PMU2 = S-400 and Bavar-373 because of its datalinking with Search OTH+AESA radars and TVC guided Sayyad-4s with ARH running at 6+ Mach can shred any incoming jet into mince.

Dude, I really hope that everything you say is true.

You need to debate with a bit more tact as an FYI.

Peace. Out.

 

[ToddE]

Dude, I really hope that everything you say is true.

Hacer you need to debate with a bit more tact as an FYI.

Peace. Out.

If you know my reputation, I am the worst critic of IRI's technical incompetency so rest assured about what I say.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

If you know my reputation, I am the worst critic of IRI's technical incompetency so rest assured about what I say.

I have no clue about the technicalities and most of what you wrote is Greek to me but I hope to God you are right and the Iranian defence systems are as good as you say.

They will be put to test soon I am sure.

Shooting down a few Zionia planes will be Iran's gift to the whole oppressed world.

May Allah be with Iran.

 

[tsunset]

Brigadier General Agha Mohammadi, Deputy of Self-Sufficiency Jihad in the Air Defense Force, Officially Announced:

The Islamic Republic of Iran was able to address concerns regarding the detection of F-35 stealth fighters ten years ago.

This important news, which has been officially declassified after ten years and was released several years ago, is sure to cause concern among the Zionists and their American masters, who have focused heavily on the stealth capabilities of these fighters.

Agha Mohammadi stated: "We are moving toward addressing the needs of emerging warfare; we monitor the enemy beyond their expectations."

He emphasized: "Currently, our concern is not about detecting the F-35; that issue was resolved ten years ago. With the systems we have unveiled, we are now engaged in countering drones."

"There is currently no aircraft that we cannot detect."

 

[muhammed45]

A great image of 15th Khordad air defense system present in Syria.



Its PESA radar is alteady tested against F-35, F-15 anf F-16s of Israeli air force.

No one knows how many fighter jets has this defense system engaged with or cruise missiles and SDB style projectiles, but as a matter fact, its a battle tested system.

 

[Yasser76]

A great image of 15th Khordad air defense system present in Syria.

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Its PESA radar is alteady tested against F-35, F-15 anf F-16s of Israeli air force.

No one knows how many fighter jets has this defense system engaged with or cruise missiles and SDB style projectiles, but as a matter fact, its a battle tested system.

In all seriousness are you kidding Israel has been bombing Syria almost daily with no loss.....

 

[muhammed45]

In all seriousness are you kidding Israel has been bombing Syria almost daily with no loss.....

They use stand off weapons, mostly out of reach of this AD's range. But your point is valid, Khordad is not engaging with Zionist jets but its targets have been a variety of different kinds of projectiles.

My main focus is on its PESA radar. Its range is much more than the missiles inside those canisters. It can easily detect F-35 and gather info about all the jets of Israeli air force.

 

[Yasser76]

They use stand off weapons, mostly out of reach of this AD's range. But your point is valid, Khordad is not engaging with Zionist jets but its targets have been a variety of different kinds of projectiles.

My main focus is on its PESA radar. Its range is much more than the missiles inside those canisters. It can easily detect F-35 and gather info about all the jets of Israeli air force.

Thanks, but no point being able to detect the F-35 if you cannot shot it down.

I think Iran's best bet is to simply fire more missiles at F-35 base, reports indicate they may have even hit some F-35s in the last missile attack.

 

[ToddE]

I have no clue about the technicalities and most of what you wrote is Greek to me but I hope to God you are right and the Iranian defence systems are as good as you say.

They will be put to test soon I am sure.

Shooting down a few Zionia planes will be Iran's gift to the whole oppressed world.

May Allah be with Iran.

thanks but remember IADS means less for a large area like Iran, Israel with its dozens of billions of USD worth of airdefence still got beaten to stars by IRGC's missile strikes not once but twice. Such is the nature of modern combat, no matter how much you cover your airspace, enemy will still find a way.