Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Nice of you to post this but not where you accuse me of corruption.

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I dont have any, she has no chance of winning a very tight election between Kamala and Trump.

Vote for Jill = increases Trump's odds.

If you think Kamala is bad for Palestine, Trump is far worse and not just for Palestine, every Muslim nation.

I agree

Just like we voted for labour in the UK, not because labour doesnt have it's own problems and issues but because it's major party that can WIN ELECTIONS, thus it can bring change to politics and national policy


Their was no point for the Muslim community or supporters to vote for a 3rd option and get the conservatives or worse back



Trump is a total Zionists and the Republicans are too controlled by the Zionists and evangelicals
They only positive about trump is that he will make the U.S into a total joke of a state


With some effort and community unity Muslims and pro Palestinians can form a block for the future, create areas where the politicians will need their support to win

Reach out to Muslim states for funds and support

We can change the democratic party
 
I agree

Just like we voted for labour in the UK, not because labour doesnt have it's own problems and issues but because it's major party that can WIN ELECTIONS, thus it can bring change to politics and national policy


Their was no point for the Muslim community or supporters to vote for a 3rd option and get the conservatives or worse back



Trump is a total Zionists and the Republicans are too controlled by the Zionists and evangelicals
They only positive about trump is that he will make the U.S into a total joke of a state


With some effort and community unity Muslims and pro Palestinians can form a block for the future, create areas where the politicians will need their support to win

Reach out to Muslim states for funds and support

We can change the democratic party



Slightly off topic still but the two situations are NOT the same.

In the UK Labour would have romped home no matter even if all Muslims stayed at home. Even the small Muslim community and other "progessives" can make Harris lose next month in the US as the election is too tight.

Muslims decided that they would vote for Labour where it made sense - like where the candidate voted for a ceasefire back in November 2023.

The Labour Party, unlike the Tories, is not totally Zionist controlled despite the fact the leader Starmer is a Zionist shill. There are powerful pro-Palestinian voices and we have already seen some policy changes like allowing ICC to seek arrest warrants for Netanyahu/Gallant and at least a partial arms embargo.

In the US the choice is between two Zionist genocidal parties with one pretending to care about Palestinians while the other does not bother with any pretence. The differences are so minute that it probably does not matter who wins next month.
 
You know what guys I could not give a flying duck to America. Many years ago I actually quite liked them. Notwithstanding that they have now overseen aided and abetted genocide. Netanyahoo is a Jewish Hitler.

So currently i dont give a damn who wins if Harris wins with a bit of luck there will be no peaceful transfer of power Trump and his nutjobs will take care of that. So there are reasons such as this for wishing her to win

If Trump wins well at least he we know Democrats got their just desserts. Trump is a loose cannon could do anything. He will for starters stop funding that other Jewboy that west likes in Ukraine. Don't forget it was Trump who ended Afghan occupation.

I mean what more could Trump do than Biden/Harris haven't done that Bibi Hitler wanted

Ih he humiliates more Muslims and Arabs bring it on maybe one of these dictators will feel some some heat from their populations
 
Slightly off topic still but the two situations are NOT the same.

In the UK Labour would have romped home no matter even if all Muslims stayed at home. Even the small Muslim community and other "progessives" can make Harris lose next month in the US as the election is too tight.

Muslims decided that they would vote for Labour where it made sense - like where the candidate voted for a ceasefire back in November 2023.

The Labour Party, unlike the Tories, is not totally Zionist controlled despite the fact the leader Starmer is a Zionist shill. There are powerful pro-Palestinian voices and we have already seen some policy changes like allowing ICC to seek arrest warrants for Netanyahu/Gallant and at least a partial arms embargo.

In the US the choice is between two Zionist genocidal parties with one pretending to care about Palestinians while the other does not bother with any pretence. The differences are so minute that it probably does not matter who wins next month.
Not off topic at all mate. Its the first time that Muslims tasted victory at the ballot box here This is not a one off or in isolation . Muslims in UK voting for their interest is not a one off its an ongoing process. We have a London mayor. Look at how many Mulsims are now in journalism law spads etc

I am reminded of the aljazeers documentary where a Israeli diplomat was secretly recorded saying UK was lost to them as UK had allowed too many Pakis in.

Its just British Muslims are taking their time finding their feet. In time Muslim lobby in UK will be as formidable in UK as AIPAC in the US
 
I agree

Just like we voted for labour in the UK, not because labour doesnt have it's own problems and issues but because it's major party that can WIN ELECTIONS, thus it can bring change to politics and national policy


Their was no point for the Muslim community or supporters to vote for a 3rd option and get the conservatives or worse back



Trump is a total Zionists and the Republicans are too controlled by the Zionists and evangelicals
They only positive about trump is that he will make the U.S into a total joke of a state


With some effort and community unity Muslims and pro Palestinians can form a block for the future, create areas where the politicians will need their support to win

Reach out to Muslim states for funds and support

We can change the democratic party
I didn't see any opposition to the genocide the Palestinians are suffering from Kamala Harris in fact every speech she made was pro Israel and she confirmed her commitment to Israel
 
I didn't see any opposition to the genocide the Palestinians are suffering from Kamala Harris in fact every speech she made was pro Israel and she confirmed her commitment to Israel

Look I totally agree, but we have to think about where we can make change and that isn't with trump, who is a bigger Zionist scum bag then Harris

Through the progressive wing of the democratic party we can maybe force more reasonable behavior from the U.S

Believe me I don't want either party, but a protest vote may bring trump which admittedly will make the U.S look like a joke but it will be another 4 years of trump, Zionists and Arab lackeys
 
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I agree
Just like we voted for labour in the UK, not because labour doesnt have it's own problems and issues but because it's major party that can WIN ELECTIONS, thus it can bring change to politics and national policy
Their was no point for the Muslim community or supporters to vote for a 3rd option and get the conservatives or worse back
Trump is a total Zionists and the Republicans are too controlled by the Zionists and evangelicals
They only positive about trump is that he will make the U.S into a total joke of a state
With some effort and community unity Muslims and pro Palestinians can form a block for the future, create areas where the politicians will need their support to win
Reach out to Muslim states for funds and support
We can change the democratic party

Bolded Part: Yes. But Unfortunately, your point and my similar points about voting for Harris are being lost here. Instead, we have good mature members here bringing up her spouse or her statements: What kind of statements she is expected to make in the political space given to her if she were to remain viable, especially in an election year. And how about the statements from Trump?? How about Trump's Jewish family members??

Over the last some weeks, I have repeatedly said things like:
-Harris has not authority--a VP doesn't at least publicly contradict the President
-Vote for Jill Stein in NON Swing States; that would be fine: Vote of your conscience.
-Both Trump and Harris have to tow the AIPAC line or else!
-A US President CAN defy lobbies to some extent and personalities do matter: Biden is lifelong Zionist, warmonger and racist. I don't see such traits in Harris. She in unproven yet and even been called a communist etc.
-The Israeli press is overwhelmingly pro Trump and anti-Harris; tells you something.

'Punishing' Harris won't get you a darn thing except seeing her on the sidelines while Trump would do whatever he would want to. The guy recently even alluded to expanding Israel's borders! Yes, there was no conflict in Palestine when he was the POTUS but maybe that's because the Gazans were preparing for the October 7 attack? Have we thought of what Trump would do if he were the President on October 7?? He might be an isolationist but not when it comes to the Israel. Look at who support him! Why would he deny his cadre which is more than the AIPAC money?? His 'base' is full of Christian Zionists and looking at their full support for Israel, would it be unreasonable to expect that Trump would do their bidding?? In contrast, there is considerable presence of Pro Palestinian in the Harris camp and in democracy that matters.

The path forward I have been suggesting that the Pro Palestinian voters vote as a block like AIPAC does. Let it be known to the Harris campaign that support is conditional in 2024. If she wins and continues the Biden path then she'd pay the price in the next election cycle against an even more organized Pro Palestinian voter. AIPAC wasn't always this powerful. They slowly gained control over both political parties. In case of the Pro Palestinian voices, they have a fair chance to influence the Democratic Party over the years. Absolutely. That's how democracy works.

As for Jill Stein: I love Jill Stein. I had actually voted for her before similar to my vote for Nader in 2000. But here in the Swing States, the Pro Palestinian voters need to work within the system to influence the Democratic behavior. It is a wishful think that Jill Stein or the Green Party will be allowed to bring a real change for decades. I saw where Ross Perot with his 19% votes ended up.

@Strigon : You could have made your point without getting too heated about it.
 
My condolences to those of you who are American. I’m glad that Allah made me Canadian. That said, Canadians will face the same dilemma in a few months. We’ll have the choice between two Indians and an Israeli.

Liberals: Jaspreet Singh Trudeau. Turned Canada into India.

Conservatives: Pierre Poilievre, Israel lover

NDP: Jagmeet Singh, mega turban sikh

Green: Gets 2% vote

There’s nowhere to go. Probably green or stay home.
 
This video is amazing the electronic intafada website talked about this a few months ago and now the Palestinians are putting this into practice

500lb can be moved around quite easily. I think anything bigger would be a bit of a logistical challenge.

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This video is amazing the electronic intafada website talked about this a few months ago and now the Palestinians are putting this into practice

500lb can be moved around quite easily. I think anything bigger would be a bit of a logistical challenge.

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not sure why he felt the need to deliver his sermon before he pulled that trigger? difficult to see from the video but that tank was stationary over the IED for a while before it got finally got blown up ? There was a longish wait i reckon.
 
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