Beijingwalker
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" Your trains are not cheap but flight fare is expensive."
I m talking about your this comment, trains are relatively much much cheaper than flight or driving in China.
World's longest high speed railway, 1,776 Kilometers Xinjiang HSR bullet train running through the harsh terrain, breathtaking!
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I m talking about your this comment, trains are relatively much much cheaper than flight or driving in China.
Cryptonian
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Yes but you showed reference of 140$ airfare, which looked pretty expensive infront of 20-30$. So there is wow factor in China.
But in reality other countries have same flights priced at 40$ , making the price factor a little less relevant.
can you post time table of train. Would be great if contains distance / halts etc.
Beijingwalker
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Air ticket fare fluctuates massively depending on when you take the flight and other factors, train fare in China is fixed, doesn't change.
Cryptonian
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Timetable screenshot plees
Cryptonian
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Do you live in China ? Can you provide me the timetable of train between these stations ?
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@Beijingwalker @MH.Yang @Michael
Can some one of you guys send me the timetable of above mentioned route , it would give us idea about stoppages etc among top cities in above route ?
Can some one of you guys send me the timetable of above mentioned route , it would give us idea about stoppages etc among top cities in above route ?
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由蘭州至烏魯木齊南的高鐵車票低至 HK$225.70 起。Trip.com 提供最新時刻表、票價及優惠碼，支援 24 小時線上購票！
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模拟兰州至乌鲁木齐的快速高铁-Simulation of fast high-speed rail from Lanzhou to Urumqi
Alter_Ego
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Railway vacation in China is a must.
Whats the most scenic route?
lanzhou -tibet
Xian - Xinjiang
Beijing - Shanghai
More?
Beijingwalker
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Xishuangbanna HSR, riding a bullet train to Laos, actually this location is very close to Bangladesh
Trips of China-Laos High Speed Railway surpass 38 millions
08/21/2024| 12:40:59 PM| China Daily
This railway has sent 12.73 million trips this year, an increase of 11.9 percent year-on-year.
As of Aug 19, the China-Laos Railway has operated 56,000 passenger trains, with more than 38 million trips, since its opening on Dec 3, 2021.
The railway attracts 252,000 passengers from 100 countries and regions around the world and it has injected strong impetus into the...
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China to launch first Fuxing EMU train to connect southern and eastern Xinjiang
By Zhang Yiyi
Published: Nov 24, 2024 10:25 PM
Fuxing bullet train File photo: VCG
The Fuxing power-concentrated (electric multiple unit) EMU passenger train will be launched between Korla City and Hami City in Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region on November 29, with tickets available online starting November 22. It will be the first Fuxing service connecting southern and eastern Xinjiang, according to China Media Group (CMG).
The Fuxing CR200J EMU covers a one-way distance of 729 kilometers, accommodating up to 720 passengers per train, and completing the one-way journey in approximately six hours.
Currently, two pairs of regular passenger trains run daily between Korla and Hami. The launch of the Fuxing EMU will cut travel time by up to 57 minutes from Korla to Hami and up to 1 hour and 26 minutes in the opposite direction, according to CMG.
"The Fuxing CR200 series, with a top speed of 200 kilometers per hour, introduces advanced technology to upgrade traditional intercity railways. The enhanced speed will significantly improve passenger flow and boost tourism connectivity between the two regions, " Sun Zhang, a railway expert at Shanghai Tongji University, told the Global Times on Sunday.
Sun noted that the railway between Korla and Hami passes through several renowned tourist attractions, allowing for better utilization of the region's tourism resources and promoting the economic development of Xinjiang.
In addition to passenger services, the Fuxing bullet train between the two regions can also transport goods. Korla, located on the 2,712-kilometer southern Xinjiang desert loop railway that began operation in 2022, can be connected to the China-Europe freight train network via the newly launched Fuxing EMU service, according to Sun.
"This link boosts goods transport from southern Xinjiang and strengthens trade with neighboring countries via the China-Europe freight corridor," Sun said.
By Zhang Yiyi
Published: Nov 24, 2024 10:25 PM
Fuxing bullet train File photo: VCG
The Fuxing power-concentrated (electric multiple unit) EMU passenger train will be launched between Korla City and Hami City in Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region on November 29, with tickets available online starting November 22. It will be the first Fuxing service connecting southern and eastern Xinjiang, according to China Media Group (CMG).
The Fuxing CR200J EMU covers a one-way distance of 729 kilometers, accommodating up to 720 passengers per train, and completing the one-way journey in approximately six hours.
Currently, two pairs of regular passenger trains run daily between Korla and Hami. The launch of the Fuxing EMU will cut travel time by up to 57 minutes from Korla to Hami and up to 1 hour and 26 minutes in the opposite direction, according to CMG.
"The Fuxing CR200 series, with a top speed of 200 kilometers per hour, introduces advanced technology to upgrade traditional intercity railways. The enhanced speed will significantly improve passenger flow and boost tourism connectivity between the two regions, " Sun Zhang, a railway expert at Shanghai Tongji University, told the Global Times on Sunday.
Sun noted that the railway between Korla and Hami passes through several renowned tourist attractions, allowing for better utilization of the region's tourism resources and promoting the economic development of Xinjiang.
In addition to passenger services, the Fuxing bullet train between the two regions can also transport goods. Korla, located on the 2,712-kilometer southern Xinjiang desert loop railway that began operation in 2022, can be connected to the China-Europe freight train network via the newly launched Fuxing EMU service, according to Sun.
"This link boosts goods transport from southern Xinjiang and strengthens trade with neighboring countries via the China-Europe freight corridor," Sun said.
Beijingwalker
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New lines being added every year 
CallSignMaverick
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And coastal HSR?New lines being added every year
Beijingwalker
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Coastal regions add new lines every month if not every week, we had long lost count of them.
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Any plan for an extension of the HSR into Kazakhstan? The line could double as a new mainline for fast freight cargo onwards to Europe.
They could do very well to upgrade their rail network, especially if they hope to capitalize on the middle corridor plan.
63 hours currently to cross most of Kazakhstan, even longer I assume to cross from China all the way to the Caspian Sea.
Uzbekistan all ready has high speed rail, so a HSR link between China and Uzbekistan via Kazakhstan could be very beneficial to both for trade and tourism.
The Kazakh leadership has shown interest in HSR for years.
If cargo by rail can move fast enough, at a cheap enough price, it could be competitive for certain products like food. Especially goods currently transported only by air. A reliable rail link across Afghanistan could make investment in the Pakistani agricultural sector viable for export to China and via a versa, and for all countries in between.
Huge potential if the Kazakh’s build HSR, and link with the Xinjiang HSR.
They could do very well to upgrade their rail network, especially if they hope to capitalize on the middle corridor plan.
63 hours currently to cross most of Kazakhstan, even longer I assume to cross from China all the way to the Caspian Sea.
Uzbekistan all ready has high speed rail, so a HSR link between China and Uzbekistan via Kazakhstan could be very beneficial to both for trade and tourism.
The Kazakh leadership has shown interest in HSR for years.
If cargo by rail can move fast enough, at a cheap enough price, it could be competitive for certain products like food. Especially goods currently transported only by air. A reliable rail link across Afghanistan could make investment in the Pakistani agricultural sector viable for export to China and via a versa, and for all countries in between.
Huge potential if the Kazakh’s build HSR, and link with the Xinjiang HSR.
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Faithfulguy
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HSR makes sense for flights distance for less than 3hrs. For flight distance of 3 hrs or more, flying still makes more sense. That why I don’t think it makes much economic sense to have HSR to Xinjiang or Tibet as the distance is further and ridership is less. Not viable for travel or investment in the infrastructure. But HSR for the rest of China makes sense.
As for extending the infrastructure outside of China, it makes sense to South East Asia but not to Central Asia or Russia. The distance vs ridership doesn’t work out.
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