Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Dariush-e Bozorg said:
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The image of the missiles seen from above was for the public but do you seriously think that the missiles were in this warehouse? I don't believe it because it must have been hidden underground. Imagine the impact of the damage that it can do when many heavy missiles explode at the same time
 
Khabar Shekan delivered 300 kg to their hangars and runways
40+ in just one airbase, all accurate on runway and hangar

Now you want to sell 6 plus 1 quadcopter attack to empty over the ground buildings.
 
Also 100 decoy missiles emptied 200 arrow missiles

Price of Iranian decoy missile possibly 50k
Price of Israeli arrow 3 is 2.5-3.5 M each, I would cut to to 1 M for reassurance

Any Iranian missile that did not hit cost 2 M dollar for Israel.
 
Immortals said:
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Sharhrud was also targeted

@Persian Gulf
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that's a very serious blow

Parchin, Khojr, Shahrud, and 5 killed and unknown number of serious hits to AD systems

not quite as minimal a response as it seemed
 
Mr Iran Eye said:
The image of the missiles seen from above was for the public but do you seriously think that the missiles were in this warehouse? I don't believe it because it must have been hidden underground. Imagine the impact of the damage that it can do when many heavy missiles explode at the same time
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True. Missiles must be under ground in tunnels, silos and hardened bunkers. (As Iran also knew ahead of time that Israelis can attack )

However, the factories to manufacture & assemble missiles are critical assets. If you use your missiles in a major wave of attack then you require your factories to produce the parts and refill the silos. I hope Iran has major production units in underground facilities as well. As the ones exposed above surface are vulnerable.
 
Shawnee said:
Khabar Shekan delivered 300 kg to their hangars and runways
40+ in just one airbase, all accurate on runway and hangar

Now you want to sell 6 plus 1 quadcopter attack to empty over the ground buildings.
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we have to look at the effect of the strike

the Israeli strike objectively did far more damage to strategic sites
 
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Emirzad said:
What? Khordad HIMAD shot RQ-4, Iranian Jammer/e-warfare units brought down the RQ-170, Iranian made ADs have downed 4th gen fighters jets in Yemen-KSA theatre and they were not even proper SAM batteries, more than a dozen of Reapers/Predators/Hermes UCAVs have been brought down in all theatres where Iranian militias were armed with just rudimentary Air-defence assets. It's safe to say that IADS's of Iran, Israel, and Russia are probably the most battle-hardened in the entire world because of the elongated conflicts these countries are involved in.

Iranian IADS is the most dense layered unit in the entire MENA region along with Israel itself. No other country in MENA has network of OTH search assets plugged to Active-Passive trackers that can search/track fighters/UCAVs/Conventional BM/CM 1000+/400 KM away and then send this real time data to layers of SHORADS/HIMADS. Offcourse this IADS currently can not stop HGVs or ALBMs but who can? Did not Israeli IADS itself fail massively against Iranian Hypersonics/Skip glide vehicles three weeks ago when 100+ Re-entry vehicles went pass through the entire ABM shield?

If we go by your theory of weapons not being tested than same can be said about roughly 90% of the western weaponry too.
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And I'm generally skeptical of western weapons as well, and don't think they're anywhere near as good as claimed. We've seen proof of that in Ukraine where some systems worked out, but most didn't.

Also, MANPADs shooting down low flying fighters and slow moving drones aren't the same as SAMs targeting multiple incoming bandits, which even you've eluded to in this post. Ukraine saw dozens of Russian fighters shot down by MANPADs, doesn't change anything.

So my point still stands.

There is a reason why Israeli fighters went back in one piece, without a single loss.
 
Lapid, probably next prime Minister is disappointed of israeli attacks because were baseless...for new deterrence, assault on nuclear targets or economics assets with noticeable immediate impact are possible in trying to avoid fatal scenario...

But both Israeli revenge shrouded in mystery. Whay that, and what are gains of his decisions. Is today Iran considered less dangerous and impact force than yesterday...


Actually, Lepid has very good points...Israeli government is strategic disaster for the entity..
 
Emirzad said:
Khordad HIMAD shot RQ-4, Iranian Jammer/e-warfare units brought down the RQ-170, Iranian made ADs have downed 4th gen fighters jets in Yemen-KSA theatre and they were not even proper SAM batteries, more than a dozen of Reapers/Predators/Hermes UCAVs have been brought down in all theatres where Iranian militias were armed with just rudimentary Air-defence assets. It's safe to say that IADS's of Iran, Israel, and Russia are probably the most battle-hardened in the entire world because of the elongated conflicts these countries are involved in.
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Please talk about Iranian AD's performance against combined air assault by enemy AF.Not these isolated events of downing some drones.
Israeli Air Force successfully hit Iranian AD sites not one time but twice.
Its not like Iran was facing some kind of saturation attack,IAF fired no more than 4 ALBMs .
 
Dear Iran, it was impressive
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Persian Gulf said:
we have to look at the effect of the strike

the Israeli strike objectively did far more damage to strategic sites
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That is the problem Iran has right now - its strikes cannot do as much damage - they are not precise enough. Iran needs to rethink its approach.

The BM attacks create for an impressive light show, but actual damage it limited.
 
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This one looks like a missile strike.
We have to wait for quality images
 
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