Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

And I'm generally skeptical of western weapons as well, and don't think they're anywhere near as good as claimed. We've seen proof of that in Ukraine where some systems worked out, but most didn't.

Also, MANPADs shooting down low flying fighters and slow moving drones aren't the same as SAMs targeting multiple incoming bandits, which even you've eluded to in this post. Ukraine saw dozens of Russian fighters shot down by MANPADs, doesn't change anything.

So my point still stands.

There is a reason why Israeli fighters went back in one piece, without a single loss.

IAF went back in one piece because they did not get anywhere near Iranian IADS.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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some claims that some Israeli jets entered Iranian airspace

 

[Shawnee]

@Immortals
@Persian Gulf

Do you know why the roof is blue per Fabian?
Old time military stuff

 

[jauk]

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some claims that some Israeli jets entered Iranian airspace

? You realize the is one of the more infamous CNN shills?

 

[Persian Gulf]

K-4 should be enough to level a building completely

No idea why Iran never used K-4 with 1.5t warhead in TP1 and 2

lack of accuracy and high interception rate and expensive missile

assuming 10-20% success rate, need 5-10 missiles for 1 hit. assuming no malfunctions (Khorramshahr has had at least 2 prior testing failures). that's very expensive, Khorramshahr is likely Iran's most expensive and complex missile.

and the hits likely have high CEP so need to aim at a large target rather than a specific building

 

[MS Sandhu]

Israel claims they used 100 fighter jets

you think they used 100 fighter jets to fire 4 ALBMs?

That was a strike formation

Some fighters to fire ALBMs
Others to launch drones

Then they had to protect these assets
Fighters to collect intelligence from drones and manage things accordingly
And then fighters scanning surrounding ground space to neutralize any local militia 's SAM threat

There was so much at play so 100 fighters were really required to execute the mission successfully.
That number makes sense

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Immortals
@Persian Gulf

Do you know why the roof is blue per Fabian?
Old time military stuff

Moghaddam

 

[Persian Gulf]

Will this slow the casting process?

Was there 50 missiles exploding?

Strategic questions.

Let’s be fair

yes

unclear but probably not

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[Shawnee]

yes

unclear but probably not

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I will take Pataramesh answer:

Even this casting building is to some extent critical
Easily replaceable

I applaud him for his prediction

 

[MS Sandhu]

How do you know how many ALBMs were fired that night?

Just 4 ballistic missile boosters were reported to be found
Other hits may be with cruise Missiles.

 

[vmro]

Israel claims they used 100 fighter jets

you think they used 100 fighter jets to fire 4 ALBMs?

This is also debates in pro Zionists circles without compromises...

Dear Iran, it was impressive

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This is hindustai times, main rival is indian times, while for one of those Iran in secret is preparing f35-killer, next generation military manned multirole fighters, while laser air defence that is finishing by idf immediately changes use drones that are popular now will be retired...everything started with Ronald Regan....

Pointles, but unfortunately everyone will have to see tnx to algorithm boosted by indian as relative global majority on net..that use it in English only....Persian is 3 o 4 place, depending on source...

 

[tsunset]

Iran should transfer and in the future make everything in the tunnel complex/underground, at least the most critical sites. Israel would have no answer to this and they will be forced to deeply enter Iranian airspace to try to launch a bunker buster that wouldn't even guarantee a successful penetration

 

[ToddE]

Patriots successfully intercepted Kinzhals ALBMs multiple times.
So you are just making lame excuses

I am afraid you are highly ill-informed on the subject. Khinzal is a Non-warhead separating rocket with quasi to depressed ballistic trajectory so it lacks KE/burnout V that a Boost-Skip-Glide system achieves like Fattah/Kheibar Shikan, instead it relies upon thrust for speed along with some maneuvering. Moreover, the biggest different is that it does not deploy a Re-entry Vehicle, nor does it has a terminal manuvering feature or any no MaRV to perform evasive maneuvering.

The Fattah and Kheibar-Shikan missiles are boost-skip-glide systems with lofted apogee to gain max KE for high burnout velocity. Both deploy MaRVs. As a matter of fact Kheibar-Shikan's RV was caught on camera performing evasive maneuvering over Israeli Airbase which it hit later. This separation process confuses radars because they for some time can not differentiate between the separated stage and RV because for seconds they have the same speed and RCS (coming at same angle and are of similar size in case of Kheibar-Shikan). Only after some time the motion disparity shows enough contrast. Kinzhal cant do this. The entire Israeli ALBM package of the Sparrow family is also Lofted Apoge separating RVs, very similar to Iranian Fateh-110 descended missiles that Fattah/Kheibar Shikan themselves come from. Only difference is Israel uses them as ALBMs because they do not want to provide TEL as targets on their land, while IRGC-AF uses TELs although ALBM version exists.

Israel also intercepted large number of Iranian Ballistic Missiles.only few got through causing minimal damage

Here are some clips of dozens and possibly 100+ missiles passing through and hitting targets right over the top of Iron Dome, Davids Sling and whatnot.

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Most are Fattahs and Kheibar Shikans, few are Ghadr-F/H (exoatmospheric MaRV) or Emad (endoatmospheric MaRV). Iran has never deployed its big guns like Sejjil (2 solid staged+Exoatmospheric MaRV suspected IRBM) or Kheibar-4 (Post boost phase vehicle PBV with a clustered warhead, another suspected IRBM).

Please provide evidence of Fattah or Kheibar Shikan being intercepted?

 

[jauk]

Patriots successfully intercepted Kinzhals ALBMs multiple times.
So you are just making lame excuses

Israel also intercepted large number of Iranian Ballistic Missiles.only few got through causing minimal damage
Imagine if Israel had no Arrows/David Slings? Almost all BMs would have got through .
And Israel most likely launched its projectiles from Iraqi or Syrian air space.

Where is absolute nonsense emanating from.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

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