Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[jauk]

some claims that some Israeli jets entered Iranian airspace

? You realize the is one of the more infamous CNN shills?

 

[Persian Gulf]

K-4 should be enough to level a building completely

No idea why Iran never used K-4 with 1.5t warhead in TP1 and 2

lack of accuracy and high interception rate and expensive missile

assuming 10-20% success rate, need 5-10 missiles for 1 hit. assuming no malfunctions (Khorramshahr has had at least 2 prior testing failures). that's very expensive, Khorramshahr is likely Iran's most expensive and complex missile.

and the hits likely have high CEP so need to aim at a large target rather than a specific building

 

[MS Sandhu]

Israel claims they used 100 fighter jets

you think they used 100 fighter jets to fire 4 ALBMs?

That was a strike formation

Some fighters to fire ALBMs
Others to launch drones

Then they had to protect these assets
Fighters to collect intelligence from drones and manage things accordingly
And then fighters scanning surrounding ground space to neutralize any local militia 's SAM threat

There was so much at play so 100 fighters were really required to execute the mission successfully.
That number makes sense

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Immortals
@Persian Gulf

Do you know why the roof is blue per Fabian?
Old time military stuff

Moghaddam

 

[Persian Gulf]

Will this slow the casting process?

Was there 50 missiles exploding?

Strategic questions.

Let’s be fair

yes

unclear but probably not

 

[Shawnee]

yes

unclear but probably not

I will take Pataramesh answer:

Even this casting building is to some extent critical
Easily replaceable

I applaud him for his prediction

 

[MS Sandhu]

How do you know how many ALBMs were fired that night?

Just 4 ballistic missile boosters were reported to be found
Other hits may be with cruise Missiles.

 

[vmro]

Israel claims they used 100 fighter jets

you think they used 100 fighter jets to fire 4 ALBMs?

This is also debates in pro Zionists circles without compromises...

Dear Iran, it was impressive

This is hindustai times, main rival is indian times, while for one of those Iran in secret is preparing f35-killer, next generation military manned multirole fighters, while laser air defence that is finishing by idf immediately changes use drones that are popular now will be retired...everything started with Ronald Regan....

Pointles, but unfortunately everyone will have to see tnx to algorithm boosted by indian as relative global majority on net..that use it in English only....Persian is 3 o 4 place, depending on source...

 

[tsunset]

Iran should transfer and in the future make everything in the tunnel complex/underground, at least the most critical sites. Israel would have no answer to this and they will be forced to deeply enter Iranian airspace to try to launch a bunker buster that wouldn't even guarantee a successful penetration

 

[ToddE]

Patriots successfully intercepted Kinzhals ALBMs multiple times.
So you are just making lame excuses

I am afraid you are highly ill-informed on the subject. Khinzal is a Non-warhead separating rocket with quasi to depressed ballistic trajectory so it lacks KE/burnout V that a Boost-Skip-Glide system achieves like Fattah/Kheibar Shikan, instead it relies upon thrust for speed along with some maneuvering. Moreover, the biggest different is that it does not deploy a Re-entry Vehicle, nor does it has a terminal manuvering feature or any no MaRV to perform evasive maneuvering.

The Fattah and Kheibar-Shikan missiles are boost-skip-glide systems with lofted apogee to gain max KE for high burnout velocity. Both deploy MaRVs. As a matter of fact Kheibar-Shikan's RV was caught on camera performing evasive maneuvering over Israeli Airbase which it hit later. This separation process confuses radars because they for some time can not differentiate between the separated stage and RV because for seconds they have the same speed and RCS (coming at same angle and are of similar size in case of Kheibar-Shikan). Only after some time the motion disparity shows enough contrast. Kinzhal cant do this. The entire Israeli ALBM package of the Sparrow family is also Lofted Apoge separating RVs, very similar to Iranian Fateh-110 descended missiles that Fattah/Kheibar Shikan themselves come from. Only difference is Israel uses them as ALBMs because they do not want to provide TEL as targets on their land, while IRGC-AF uses TELs although ALBM version exists.

Israel also intercepted large number of Iranian Ballistic Missiles.only few got through causing minimal damage

Here are some clips of dozens and possibly 100+ missiles passing through and hitting targets right over the top of Iron Dome, Davids Sling and whatnot.







Most are Fattahs and Kheibar Shikans, few are Ghadr-F/H (exoatmospheric MaRV) or Emad (endoatmospheric MaRV). Iran has never deployed its big guns like Sejjil (2 solid staged+Exoatmospheric MaRV suspected IRBM) or Kheibar-4 (Post boost phase vehicle PBV with a clustered warhead, another suspected IRBM).

Please provide evidence of Fattah or Kheibar Shikan being intercepted?

 

[jauk]

Patriots successfully intercepted Kinzhals ALBMs multiple times.
So you are just making lame excuses

Israel also intercepted large number of Iranian Ballistic Missiles.only few got through causing minimal damage
Imagine if Israel had no Arrows/David Slings? Almost all BMs would have got through .
And Israel most likely launched its projectiles from Iraqi or Syrian air space.

Where is absolute nonsense emanating from.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

 

[hasn2009]

News Anchor to Israel Source : okay so which missiles did you fire towards Iran ?

Israel : LORA

News Anchor to Israeli Source : was the attack successful ?

Israel : LORA

Irani and Arab boys wont understand this

 

[ToddE]

Not only Sweden, and this is not everything.
Is it cheap to Iran activate mass-produced air defense system they already have? They were good, very good, and can Iran precedent concept in this branch of military, every quantity has iwn quality...most alternative and unique way to achieve top air military position of Iran, and with military allies in the region...

Force to reckon and easy to afford...

This nothing sci fi, but it is important price, for example, is Bavar-373 expensive to produce .

Any IADS, anywhere in the world can only delay the enemy attack but it can never sustain for too long with modern attack weaponry making strides. You now have kamikaze drones, SOWs, hypersonic missiles with lofted trajectories performing skips and glides, maneuvering inside and outside the atmosphere. Even if IADS defends itself in the initial wave of enemy attack, the cost of interception becomes very high. Some Israeli retired General himself said that April's IRGC strike on Israel cost them 1 Billion USD+ ! Imagine if enemy decides to send another such package? Hezbollah fires rockets at them daily only to deplete the Air defense stocks. Its tactics. I for one believe that the October strike of IRGC was so successful because Israelis just did not want to loose their replenished stocks of interceptors.

Saying that Iranian leadership was foolish that it never extended the IADS into Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon during peacetime. They could have easily put mobile HIMAD/SHORAD batteries there and connected them with radar network starting from OTHs in Iran for initial search/detection while tracking can be done in real time by mobile units. In 3-4 years they could have trained these militaries. Instead they relied upon entrenchment tactics. They kept on sending ground forces which worked yes because, despite the aerial bombing in Syria, IRGC's ground control has just increased and increased in size, but such tactics allowed the enemy to dominate the airspace. This is happening in Lebanon now. You prepare for war during peacetime. Offcourse militaries learn from mistakes.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Foxnews will not show this strike on israel.

The panic in israeli civilian population is real---.

Exodus out of israel is at full speed + 10.