JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

Hussain said:
Bro, hope you don't mind, but it's called HAS = Hardened Air Shelter
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Not the harden shelters. I’m aware of those. But the unground tunnel complexes. Perhaps the height is such that they need a fighter that can fit, at least for some of their shorter tunnel networks.

The f-4 phantom is a little over 16 feet tall, the JF-17 is around 15 feet tall and the J-10 is 18 feet 8 inches.

That’s what I’m getting at.

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Iran Unveils Underground Air Base For Its F-4 Phantom II fighter jets

The underground base is said to be the first large enough to host fighter jets and one of several more being built. As part of the celebrations for the
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P.s. The F-14 is only 16 feet tall.
 
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FuturePAF said:
Maybe they have gotten really good at working with the MiG-29 and its engine. Also, they know they could get the engine from Russia. Finally the JF-17 is shorter and therefore, they could hide it in a bunker. Their bunkers maybe of a certain height.

I once again hope the JF-17 is not sold to them.
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Well I kind of hope the Jf17 is sold everywhere (barring India and Israel) I think it has the ability to become the Mig21 or F4 of the 4+++ Generation (in terms of abundance).
However there are many factors that hinder my hopes. In the case of the IRIAF what I can garner is

  • Geopolitics; there will be fallout not only from the West but the Gulf as well, also Tehran isn't actually viewed that much favorably by the security establishment similarly Pakistan isn't in the good books of the IRGC who isn't keen on a powerful Airforce in the first place
  • IRIAF Requirements; A large number of observers agree that the JF17 doesn't quite fit IRIAF doctrine which favors longer ranges double engines(tbh there are also a large number who are against this assertion)
  • Better Alternatives; Well aside from the on and off again Russian Su35, Mig35 and Su30SM, the J10C offers better capacity and a single supplier
These are my major queries about all this hubbub of Iranian Thunders
 

Iran Reportedly Initiates Steps to Acquire JF-17 Block III Developed by Pakistan and China​

Several Arab defense media outlets report that the primary objective of the Iranian Air Force chief’s visit is to initiate discussions about acquiring the JF-17 “Thunder” fighter jets, jointly developed by Pakistan and China.​

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Khansaheeb said:
Russia to help Pakistan in jet engine production, great news:-

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I repeat ‘in short’ is a bullshit channel which exaggerates & fabricates stories for clicks. I’m sure creators of channels like ‘in short’ and ‘defence outpost’ are on this forum to pick up any genuine bits of info from more informed members and convert it into the next ‘big news’ clickbate video. Eg no sooner had someone on this forum clarified the different versions of the J-35, than they posted new ‘big news’ videos on the subject adding their own generous heap of salt n pepper🙈 Do yourselves a favour and ignore them.
 
TAC said:
I repeat ‘in short’ is a bullshit channel which exaggerates & fabricates stories for clicks. I’m sure creators of channels like ‘in short’ and ‘defence outpost’ are on this forum to pick up any genuine bits of info from more informed members and convert it into the next ‘big news’ clickbate video. Eg no sooner had someone on this forum clarified the different versions of the J-35, than they posted new ‘big news’ videos on the subject adding their own generous heap of salt n pepper🙈 Do yourselves a favour and ignore them.
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@Khansaheeb Bro, have to agree with TAC here. If another more credible source could be provided, that would be great!
 
TAC said:
I repeat ‘in short’ is a bullshit channel which exaggerates & fabricates stories for clicks. I’m sure creators of channels like ‘in short’ and ‘defence outpost’ are on this forum to pick up any genuine bits of info from more informed members and convert it into the next ‘big news’ clickbate video. Eg no sooner had someone on this forum clarified the different versions of the J-35, than they posted new ‘big news’ videos on the subject adding their own generous heap of salt n pepper🙈 Do yourselves a favour and ignore them.
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Th actual news is probably along the lines of 'Russia assures of Pakistan of supplies to ensure engine maintenance of JF17s' or something of that nature
 
I know you irans airforce is on its feet but they need twin engined flankers not JF17
 
Fatman17 said:

Iran Reportedly Initiates Steps to Acquire JF-17 Block III Developed by Pakistan and China​

Several Arab defense media outlets report that the primary objective of the Iranian Air Force chief’s visit is to initiate discussions about acquiring the JF-17 “Thunder” fighter jets, jointly developed by Pakistan and China.​

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I can see Iran inquiring about FC1 Block 3, but not JF17C’s. China would take the lead on this, not Pakistan “IF” iran was serious which I don’t think they are!
 
ThirdFaculty said:
I know you irans airforce is on its feet but they need twin engined flankers not JF17
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Dear what you want may not always be readily available. Western jets, including those jets with Western components, are out of the question for Iran due to international sanctions. Russia, while a potential supplier, is currently preoccupied with its own domestic and geopolitical demands. China, though a significant player, is often hesitant to provide large-scale military equipment to Iran and may prefer foreign currency transactions over barter deals with oil, an Iranian preference that aligns more closely with Pakistan. Additionally, Also keep middle east factor too in mind. Any significant military capability enhancement that could be perceived as a threat to regional stability is unlikely to be facilitated through Pakistan. Also, delivery timelines must be considered. Iran requires these assets quickly. While the JF-17 may not be the ideal aircraft, it could be the most viable option under current circumstances for Iran.
 
silicon0000 said:
Dear what you want may not always be readily available. Western jets, including those jets with Western components, are out of the question for Iran due to international sanctions. Russia, while a potential supplier, is currently preoccupied with its own domestic and geopolitical demands. China, though a significant player, is often hesitant to provide large-scale military equipment to Iran and may prefer foreign currency transactions over barter deals with oil, an Iranian preference that aligns more closely with Pakistan. Additionally, Also keep middle east factor too in mind. Any significant military capability enhancement that could be perceived as a threat to regional stability is unlikely to be facilitated through Pakistan. Also, delivery timelines must be considered. Iran requires these assets quickly. While the JF-17 may not be the ideal aircraft, it could be the most viable option under current circumstances for Iran.
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If Iran has the money they should go for J31s or J35s
 
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