Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tijani]

That's always the case with Muslim ummah, always falling in to traps. Syria was in a state of war with Israel but the rebels and its funders/backers spread propaganda that Assad was usa puppet lol, used anti Shia propaganda (we all know who was responsible), aim was to destroy Syria and that's exactly what happened. Syria was the backer of Hizbollah during 2006 so they destroyed the backer first and now going after Hizbollah, if Assad government fell we would be witnessing salafis marching towards Lebanon to fight hizbollah, but it failed although Assad is too weak and nation is divided right now. Turkey also fell for the trap, instead of backing Bashar they went anti Bashar and weaken him, this then made kurds strong and great threat emerged for Turkey, already in Iraq kurds have autonomous rule and now in Syria, a big threat for Turkey but I doubt they realise it.

Kudos on your understanding of the matter. But I disagree with you concerning Türkiye. Erdogan participated, despite strong opposition from other influential members of the AK party. He willingly went along with the western conspiracy and was promised a new enlarged Türkiye western Asian empire to rule. The West believed they could manage Iran and the resistance. We all remember the nonsense useless slogan "Assad must go". Hamas fell for the Muslim Brotherhood nonsense and bit the hand that fed it. The conspirators underestimated Iran's resolve and didn't forsee Iran's, Soleimani, ability, to convince Russia in helping Syrian state defend itself against western aggression, in the form of mindless drug induced fools. When their initial plan fail they then went to plan B by using the kurdish contingency to prolong the misery of Syria and Iraq.
Please excuse the slight topic diversion!

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Israel is very small, all their infrastructure will be destroyed in a few Iranian attacks.

Understatement of the whole thread!!!
There is a reason why zion piggybacks on moles and sellouts at critical choke points. Their whole project rests on it! The insecurities and aspirations of weak men at highest level are designed and desired. The whole zionist project ends violently with a minor but sustained effort from any one, inside and outside the region. Which is why wannabes nouveau riche are the royalty of Arab sheikhdoms. And institutional strong men with bruised egos and compromised characters in charge of larger nations such as Egypt and Pakistan.
Bottom line ... this could all end in a jiffy.

 

[Lulldapull]

For how much Israel's "advanced stealthy" F35 jets cost, they have been pretty useless and performed weakly against Iran.

Good IADs obviously neutralize the potency of airforces. But nothing is potent like that against competent, motivated, well equipped ground forces. Air forces are just overrated- some of you are just like little boys that are fascinated by these real world toys.

I wouldn’t spend a penny on a single jet if I were the defense minister of any country. Evidently jets are just relics of a bygone era.

 

[Dalit]

To start with, there seems to be a significant number of keyboard warriors—tweets and posts—being permitted, seemingly to favor the Iranian perspective.

Regarding my previous post: since I've been monitoring the Iran-Israel conflict, Google has highlighted that news article, and just posted and I also said that both sides are engaging in propaganda.

What I've observed about the members here is that they tend to celebrate prematurely and criticize those who attempt to maintain a balanced discussion, even if they are not actively supporting or endorsing the opposing side.

Members need to sit sometime and review the past 1 year, from the 1st day of incident.

Pay heed to your own advice and start digging through your own posts.

 

[PakFactor]

That's always the case with Muslim ummah, always falling in to traps. Syria was in a state of war with Israel but the rebels and its funders/backers spread propaganda that Assad was usa puppet lol, used anti Shia propaganda (we all know who was responsible), aim was to destroy Syria and that's exactly what happened. Syria was the backer of Hizbollah during 2006 so they destroyed the backer first and now going after Hizbollah, if Assad government fell we would be witnessing salafis marching towards Lebanon to fight hizbollah, but it failed although Assad is too weak and nation is divided right now. Turkey also fell for the trap, instead of backing Bashar they went anti Bashar and weaken him, this then made kurds strong and great threat emerged for Turkey, already in Iraq kurds have autonomous rule and now in Syria, a big threat for Turkey but I doubt they realise it.

Kudos on your understanding of the matter. But I disagree with you concerning Türkiye. Erdogan participated, despite strong opposition from other influential members of the AK party. He willingly went along with the western conspiracy and was promised a new enlarged Türkiye western Asian empire to rule. The West believed they could manage Iran and the resistance. We all remember the nonsense useless slogan "Assad must go". Hamas fell for the Muslim Brotherhood nonsense and bit the hand that fed it. The conspirators underestimated Iran's resolve and didn't forsee Iran's, Soleimani, ability, to convince Russia in helping Syrian state defend itself against western aggression, in the form of mindless drug induced fools. When their initial plan fail they then went to plan B by using the kurdish contingency to prolong the misery of Syria and Iraq.
Please excuse the slight topic diversion!

It was two weeks ago that, I was discussing with another member of Turkey's role in Syria and how it played a spoiler in confronting Iranian influence. The Turks ended up doing more harm to themselves than helping their situation, as the Kurds had more territory to roam and carry out activities along the Turkish border. But in turn, it weakened the front against the Israelis, and the regional countries did more harm to their long-term interests than Israel could do alone.

The Israelis went laughing to the bank, thinking we have legitimate morons in the region as neighbors. There is a common saying about Sikhs not having brains; it can be applied to the neighboring countries.

Worse yet, they could've enjoyed influence along with Iran and possibly have some say so within the Iranian power corridors.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pay heed to your own advice and start digging through your own posts.

I do not take sides in any celebration.

I am fully aware of what I have posted up to this point; I have never rejoiced in the killing associated with either side.

No one can find a single post of mine that supports Israel or criticizes Iran.

My focus has been on criticizing third-party organizations, like Hezbollah, that tend to destabilize wonderful countries like Lebanon and operate under the influence of others

 

[Dalit]

I do not take sides in any celebration.

I am fully aware of what I have posted up to this point; I have never rejoiced in the killing associated with either side.

No one can find a single post of mine that supports Israel or criticizes Iran.

My focus has been on criticizing third-party organizations, like Hezbollah, that tend to destabilize wonderful countries like Lebanon and operate under the influence of others

That is all dandy. You should convince your countrymen to stop celebrating the death of innocent Palestinians.

 

[Musings]

I do not take sides in any celebration.

I am fully aware of what I have posted up to this point; I have never rejoiced in the killing associated with either side.

No one can find a single post of mine that supports Israel or criticizes Iran.

My focus has been on criticizing third-party organizations, like Hezbollah, that tend to destabilize wonderful countries like Lebanon and operate under the influence of others

Yet again - quick to criticise Hezbollah and forget the last 75 years of rape torture - imprisonment ok kids - genocide apartheid state and stealing land has resulted in this resistance. The organisation that’s destabilising the region - you fail to mention showing us that you are not neutral. Only yesterday the UN released 2 verified independent statements of Palestinian prisoners confirming rape Whilst in prison yet you don’t mention?
You are like the rest that have been thread banned. A pretence to show neutrality but can’t hide the fact you are never going to be objective.

 

[UKBengali]

The main difference is that Israel will Jew more money out of the US for repairs, whereas Iran will have to tap into an already fragile economy for repairs.

They cannot do much.

They have an extremely limited stock of missiles left and Iranian oil facilities have multiple layers of air defences.


Sure they can cause some damage but it won’t be severe.

 

[Developereo]

My focus has been on criticizing third-party organizations, like Hezbollah, that tend to destabilize wonderful countries like Lebanon and operate under the influence of others

They are standing up for the genocided Palestinians while the mental slave Muslim rulers look impatiently at their watches to see when they can fly over to Israel to 'make peace' and get a doggie biscuit thrown at them by the West for being well trained poodles.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

The problem is every Indian posting on a thread like this takes a pro Israeli source ( namely themselves as they won’t allow anyone else in to verify) and believe the source to be super reliable.
Anything pro Iranian or Palestinian and your brethren snigger doubting the source.
One day you and your Indian members will realise - the white man has the ability to lie and misinform. By then it maybe too late

That’s a generalisation. I’m an Indian and on record on this thread stating my opinion that the damage to Iranian infrastructure is likely not along the lines that Israel claims it to be.

 

[LongLiveIran]

They cannot do much.

They have an extremely limited stock of missiles left and Iranian oil facilities have multiple layers of air defences.


Sure they can cause some damage but it won’t be severe.

That's from the military point of view. From the economic point of view, we can't do much damage to them because the US and Europe will rush in to save them while we will have a hard time recovering our damaged infrastructure under sanctions.

 

[Developereo]

That's from the military point of view. From the economic point of view, we can't do much damage to them because the US and Europe will rush in to save them while we will have a hard time recovering our damaged infrastructure under sanctions.

The West will make it a point of honor to rebuild Israel as quickly as possible... and the usual Muslim slave countries will help.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Yet again - quick to criticise Hezbollah and forget the last 75 years of rape torture - imprisonment ok kids - genocide apartheid state and stealing land has resulted in this resistance. The organisation that’s destabilising the region - you fail to mention showing us that you are not neutral. Only yesterday the UN released 2 verified independent statements of Palestinian prisoners confirming rape Whilst in prison yet you don’t mention?
You are like the rest that have been thread banned. A pretence to show neutrality but can’t hide the fact you are never going to be objective.

Why is that? Generally speaking, I am not a big fan of supporting violence in any form - I can be found guilty of this if someone finds one of my posts in which I supported killing innocent Palestinians by Israel in any thread.

The only difference is that I do not support the violence and destruction done by these actors.

Whenever people say, 75 years, 75 years, my thought is more practical - I don't believe in the past, you can learn from it, but you can't be sick with it. event between 1910 and 1947 that led to Israel is absolutely wrong. Most saints will not support it

Currently, if you ask the Palestinians if they will accept a situation similar to 1967, they will be happy to accept it, and if they offer a situation similar to the 1947 UN resolution, they will be most happy to accept it.

In practice, such organizations have often brought more harm to innocent civilians. and over the past year, many Palestinians have lost their lives due to Hamas attacks on innocent Israeli people, similarly, Hezbollah's actions in Lebanon have resulted in the deaths of numerous innocent people.

You’re free to place all the blame on Israel, but supporting such organizations with the belief they’ll achieve something miraculous, defeat Israel, and resolve everything is wishful thinking.

I take a more practical approach—I’m interested in real solutions and don’t dwell on empty rhetoric about the past. and As a good friend of Iranians, I do not want them to sacrifice themselves because they belong to a Muslim nation.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

They are standing up for the genocided Palestinians while the mental slave Muslim rulers look impatiently at their watches to see when they can fly over to Israel to 'make peace' and get a doggie biscuit thrown at them by the West for being well trained poodles.

When I look at Lebanon, I find it troubling and unrealistic that a significant portion of the country is dominated by a group backed by foreign interests. To me, it's similar to the Taliban taking control of half of another nation and exerting dominance over it.