Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khansaheeb]

unbelievably delusional take

ask any iranian who lives in iran if they agree with you

I was in iran recently and outside of north tehran things are not good at all

even empirically the cost of US sanctions is in the trillions of dollars

Are you suggesting that a pandered slave is better than a poor free man?

 

[Developereo]

US does not need to collapse but someone else like China to offer what it does.

In that sense it will in essence "collapse'.

For the foreseeable future, China has no desire or ability to challenge the US militarily except in places close to home where Chinese interests are directly impacted, eg. the South China Sea and Taiwan. The Chinese are pragmatic and they think long term. They will not put their country at risk to fight someone else's war.

They have nothing for or against Muslims, but they also have nothing for or against Israel. Their diplomatic statements are mostly designed to balance out the Zionist-controlled Western babble.

Economically, China will balance out the Western dominance and that is an excellent thing for the whole world.

 

[UKBengali]

Economically, China will balance out the Western dominance and that is an excellent thing for the whole world.

Alternative Chinese technological eco-system will be in place in the 2030s - semi-conductors and jet planes.

People do not appreciate the myriad of factors on how the US became so dominant.

 

[Flotilla]

unbelievably delusional take

ask any iranian who lives in iran if they agree with you

I was in iran recently and outside of north tehran things are not good at all

even empirically the cost of US sanctions is in the trillions of dollars

Well, based in my own experience, I have been in Tehran 4 times in the last 5 years, first of them under the maximum pressure campaign I. And I remember a lot of afghani children searching in the garbagge from bins in the north of the city.

Last time I went I saw many less of them. I know it is just one shard of the broken jar, but I saw just a little improvement from previous years. But yeah, you are right, don´t blame us, we want just to believe that Iran will prevail this savage economic open war.

 

[Flotilla]

If you want to believe that the US is collapsing then fine.

No no, maybe just today no.

But if the foreseeable plans are just raise tariffs to china, european and latin american (ergo mexican products... What could gonna happen with inflation?. And with competitiveness of the Economy?.

50 years ago US was a main exporter of some the better cars of the world, nowadays the only US car exported in meaningful numbers are Teslas models, and they opened or tried to open a factory in EU and China. What gonna happen to this company in new tariffs are imposed to competitors?.

Remember Boeing just fired last month 17.000 workers.

So, ok, maybe they won´t collapse tomorrow or in the next 5 years. But if the path it is that, black clouds are over the horizon.

 

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[UKBengali]

No no, maybe just today no.

But if the foreseeable plans are just raise tariffs to china, european and latin american (ergo mexican products... What could gonna happen with inflation?. And with competitiveness of the Economy?.

50 years ago US was a main exporter of some the better cars of the world, nowadays the only US car exported in meaningful numbers are Teslas models, and they opened or tried to open a factory in EU and China. What gonna happen to this company in new tariffs are imposed to competitors?.

Remember Boeing just fired last month 17.000 workers.

So, ok, maybe they won´t collapse tomorrow or in the next 5 years. But if the path it is that, black clouds are over the horizon.

Some people still suffer from "mental slavery" and think that there is something special about whites and so in their lifetime of many decades left that US and west will remain dominant and maybe throughout this century at least.

Usually I find a lot of these people come from countries that have not economically/technologically progressed since independence and so maybe they project their own lack of progress on the rest of the Muslim world and "Global South".

As well as this they do not understand the key pillars on which US-western supremacy lies like controlling the world economy and key technologies like semiconductors, aerospace and military technology.

China will within 10 years create its own economic,technological and military eco-system. It does not need to be on anyone's side but the fact that it has created an alternative will create a multi-polar world.

 

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[jauk]

Yellow flag: that’s basic hearsay. You use it quite a bit.

I see quite otherwise. Well to do but nagging incessantly. And that’s my hearsay.

However, what is a fact is Iranian world class entitlement and complaining.

This person explains quite well how Iranian masses' 'deep thinking' and of the lowest of levels whining. And he's correct!

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[vmro]

Hypocrisy at its finest. You are the entitled one, living comfortably in the west while complaining about Iranians who are living in shit conditions. If life in Iran is so great, why don’t you go live there?

Just more serious approach to International network of human resources, they can be even more important than domicile, so now is rising in Iranian lobby organizing, ngo etc... Part of globalization... BTW, one of the most improved standards of living has Qatar, one bigger village in population size... but next isolation will cost them collapse, or will pay racketeering to Iran and Turkey...

 

[SolarWarden]

Is it me or has it gone quiet by Iranian officials and state media? I see a couple of tweets by regular folks but I don't count them as sources. Last week Iranian officials were making it clear a response was coming but not anymore... is it just me?

 

[UKBengali]

Is it me or has it gone quiet by Iranian officials and state media? I see a couple of tweets by regular folks but I don't count them as sources. Last week Iranian officials were making it clear a response was coming but not anymore... is it just me?

That missile test that was either anti-satellite or ICBM did the "talking" this week.

 

[vmro]

I remember a lot of afghani children searching in the garbagge from bins in the north of the city.

you can see much more kids living im similar conditions in every western capital city...

 

[vmro]

Is it me or has it gone quiet by Iranian officials and state media? I see a couple of tweets by regular folks but I don't count them as sources. Last week Iranian officials were making it clear a response was coming but not anymore... is it just me?

What are you talking about?

 

[Tamerlane]

If you want to believe that the US is collapsing then fine.

The British Empire was much longer lasting and stronger relative to the rest of the world than America. Yet, they faded away to insignificance after WW2. The country still exists but is of no significance. Before that, the 600-old Ottoman Empire got dismantled. In our lifetimes we’ve seen the USSR disappear. In their time no one would have thought they’ll cease to exist.

The US is losing its dominance relative to the rest of the world. It’s already lost all moral authority by committing genocide of women and children. In a few years it will become irrelevant like the British and no one will care. It will be remembered as the land that exported pornography, violent movies, and LGBTQ culture.