PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[Fatman17]

AESA RADAR

 

[TallGuy]

Yes, color scheme matches PAF's. Might be a follow up order after the initial 20 airframes

20+16 i always had that figure for two squadrons and possible 18 for another

54-55 was what i heard year ago when they were purchasing J10

 

[Yasser76]

20+16 i always had that figure for two squadrons and possible 18 for another

54-55 was what i heard year ago when they were purchasing J10

I would not be surprised if we stay at 36 aircraft following news of J-35. PAF simply cannot fund two major high end procurement projects at the same time, even with generous Chinese terms. I guess ultimately it depends on replacement strategy. If J-35 is a true F-16 replacement we will need minimum of 5 Sqds ( around 90 planes). So that is 36 J-10CEs and 90 J-35s to essentially replace some of the Mirage fleet and the F-16s.

PAF possible ending in 20235 like the below

2 J-10CE Sqds
5 J-35 Sqds
8 JF-17 Sqds

Above all frontline (not taking into account OCUs) that is 15 Sqds of very good AESA fighters.

Currently PAF has 5 F-16 sqds and 4 Mirage Sqds still operational and I imagine these will all be next in line for retirement over next 10 years. Maybe F-7PGs still retained for DACT/LIFT/Fighter Conversion

 

[AliKazmi007]

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how else would you apply Turtle wax . Like the idea of mopping it though, learn something new every day. Just wondering how the optics for my neighbors while I'm ON TOP of my car!!!! But you know, who cares, right? As long as the damn things is SHINEY.

 

[Yommie]

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AESA RADAR

That's a good looking radar. I like how it's tilted.

@NGAD IS THE BEST

 

[Yommie]

20+16 i always had that figure for two squadrons and possible 18 for another

54-55 was what i heard year ago when they were purchasing J10

They need like 50 more to phase out the early 1980s F-16A/B which are nearing the end of their lives.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

That's a good looking radar. I like how it's tilted.

@NGAD IS THE BEST

Radars is not built for beauty but matter of capability

 

[Awwad]

PAF possible ending in 20235 like the below

2 J-10CE Sqds
5 J-35 Sqds
8 JF-17 Sqds

You mean 2035?

Most of F-16s will still be in service by then. I see upto 2 squadrons of J-35 by 2035 in ideal conditions. More to follow later, as F-16s will start phasing out in 2040s.

Total number of J-35s directly depends upon its cost as well, plus Pakistan's economic strength at that time. Its a 5th gen fighter afterall, even if it would not be as pricey as F-35 but it must be as much costly as western 4.5 gen fighters.

Just for reference of western fighters, Kuwait bought 28 Typhoons for 8.7 Billion dollars, India bought 36 Rafales for 9 billion dollars. I think 2 squadrons of J-35s should be around 8 to 10 billion dollars at minimum.

 

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[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hi,

6 BVR's on the J10 CE---china is intentionally freaking out our opponent---.

Once they're completely "freaked out" the time to payback with interest will start Insha'Allah. Don't know about others, the BD Muslims are awaiting this opportunity with 10x more eagerness for they have been 10x more in the receiving end....

 

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[abcefg]

You mean 2035?

Most of F-16s will still be in service by then. I see upto 2 squadrons of J-35 by 2035 in ideal conditions. More to follow later, as F-16s will start phasing out in 2040s.

Total number of J-35s directly depends upon its cost as well, plus Pakistan's economic strength at that time. Its a 5th gen fighter afterall, even if it would not be as pricey as F-35 but it must be as much costly as western 4.5 gen fighters.

Just for reference of western fighters, Kuwait bought 28 Typhoons for 8.7 Billion dollars, India bought 36 Rafales for 9 billion dollars. I think 2 squadrons of J-35s should be around 8 to 10 billion dollars at minimum.

J-10s were not meant to replace F-16s, they were to replace mirages in strike role and to counter Rafale procurement.

 

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