Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

TallGuy said:
@Reichsmarschall @Lulldapull @Persian Gulf @LongLiveIran

what has world come to - new world!

is this the same entity ? those who used take pre-emptive operations now waiting daily ..they destroyed Egyptian/Syrian/Jordanian armies pre-emptively in 1967.

No they cant do this! these operations although painful but has shifted the balance or i say atleast leveled the playing field!

Well i heard a rumour the Entity in has requested urgent request to Purchase MRBMs with India (12 x TELs) and approximately 90+ MRBMS from India (Agni type with Convential payload delivery system)

i find it far fetched even by my standards. But amount investment the Indians have put in Haifa and number Indian Operatives in the Entity. who knows?
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Israel doesn't need India to launch attacks on Iran. They can fire at anywhere in Iran over Iraqi airspace as they did before. This time that Iran's OTH radars have been hit, they will do it even easier. They also have military presence in Republic of Azerbaijan.

I think True Promise III is never going to happen. It's False Promise. The Iranian media, even conservative media in Iran, seem to be preparing people for deescalation and even negotiations with the United States. Their tone reminds me of Entegham-e Sakht after Trump assassinated Soleimani. Trump's entire foreign ministry, advisors and DoD are centered around supporting Israel and confronting Iran. And based on the experiences of Iraq, Libya and Syria, we all know where that will lead to.
 
Reichsmarschall said:
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Pompeo literally said that Iran and North Korea were different cases because one has nukes and the other doesn't. Every run-of-the-mill idiot knows that Iran needs nuclear deterrence and it needs it fast and with enough destructive power. I hope the leadership understands it too.
 
LongLiveIran said:
Israel doesn't need India to launch attacks on Iran. They can fire at anywhere in Iran over Iraqi airspace as they did before. This time that Iran's OTH radars have been hit, they will do it even easier. They also have military presence in Republic of Azerbaijan.

I think True Promise III is never going to happen. It's False Promise. The Iranian media, even conservative media in Iran, seem to be preparing people for deescalation and even negotiations with the United States. Their tone reminds me of Entegham-e Sakht after Trump assassinated Soleimani. Trump's entire foreign ministry, advisors and DoD are centered around supporting Israel and confronting Iran. And based on the experiences of Iraq, Libya and Syria, we all know where that will lead to.
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You probably see the nonsense media of the reformists.
The order to attack has been announced.
Americans can enter the game if want war too.
 
Mehdipersian said:
You probably see the nonsense media of the reformists.
The order to attack has been announced.
Americans can enter the game if want war too.
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Since when mashreghnews is a reformist newspaper?
Let's handle on problem at a time. Let's punish Israelis first, then think about Americans who are 10 times more powerful than Israel.
 
LongLiveIran said:
Israel doesn't need India to launch attacks on Iran. They can fire at anywhere in Iran over Iraqi airspace as they did before. This time that Iran's OTH radars have been hit, they will do it even easier. They also have military presence in Republic of Azerbaijan.

I think True Promise III is never going to happen. It's False Promise. The Iranian media, even conservative media in Iran, seem to be preparing people for deescalation and even negotiations with the United States. Their tone reminds me of Entegham-e Sakht after Trump assassinated Soleimani. Trump's entire foreign ministry, advisors and DoD are centered around supporting Israel and confronting Iran. And based on the experiences of Iraq, Libya and Syria, we all know where that will lead to.
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I still believe in TP3 firmly, this is not a lie, there is no deescalation (besides in reformist dream world), this is the same pattern as TP2, this is backed by several US intelligence sources

Last time it took Iran a month and a halF to respond, everyone including myself lost hope and was forgetting it little by little, until that one random day where Iran launched hundreds of missiles without any warning besides the US an hour before (no one was believing them until the first videos came out)

They use the same words and speeches as before TP2

They made it clear there will be a response, including military officials hinting which type of missile they will use

The "de escalation" attempts are made by reformists and their medias which calls for Iran to abide by what Israel and the US says and that Iran returns to JCPOA, these guys are funded by the west and spreads nonsense all day long

As i said since Israel attack, it will take Iran weeks or months to respond, same time as TP2, and this will include TP3 attack + additional projectiles in case Israel reponds immediately
 
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Lulldapull said:
Indian tech is even below Chinese tech. I believe we know the truth no?

Where Iran tech? Displayed in front of the world as not only functional but effective and where these other top 5 military power jokers no?

I believe we’d all be surprised when the next world power rankings come up no?
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🤣 Stop kanging too much. China can land a rover on Mars and far side of the moon. We have our own space station and a satellite network while Iran is still looking to purchase advanced satellites from Chinese companies.dont make it out as if Iran is some sort of a superpower lol it's just a medium sized power.if not for Iran, Huawei wouldnt be under so much economic sanctions. U tell me a country that can do all that is somehow inferior to Iran technologically 😂 give me a break boy.
 
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Lulldapull said:
Yeah I agree with your comment in logic. No shit Chinese people are not stupid but actually very smart. However, we haven’t seen their weaponry in action, hence there is no confidence in what they’ve got.
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What is China using to effectively deter US and its allies in the Pacific ocean all this while if not its strong and expanding military posture? wtf you mean "you haven't seen their weaponry yet"- when China sent a 5-warship flottila (including a very advanced and large one) through Japanese waters months ago, and Japan's navy was nowhere to be found that day, it happened twice in the past few years- You think China's military tests, and SALES of weaponry are a bluff?

if Chinese weapons are unproven, then why are many (and more and more) countries buying weapons from them? China hosts military airshows and has a large MIC- why would their customers/foreign govts Chinese military buy crap?
Lulldapull said:
France n UK are not looking too flash at the moment. Theys ain’t got jack shit to show for no?

We know this now seeing how the wars are unfolding in the Ukraine and the ME and how Iranian weapons are performing in actual wars when pitted against the best there is out there.
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If you wait to see if Chinese weapons are "effective in real combat scenarios" i'm worried you will find out too late, that's a denialist and naive position, respectfully. lol
 
LongLiveIran said:
Pompeo literally said that Iran and North Korea were different cases because one has nukes and the other doesn't.
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But neither has been attacked by US in over 40 years, and If N. Korea got that from Nukes, what did Iran do to have that same deterrence as N. Korea without having nukes? This is what we need to understand.

LongLiveIran said:
Every run-of-the-mill idiot knows that Iran needs nuclear deterrence
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Ummm, not really- why exactly does Iran need it? Iran today is showing that it has sufficient deterrence from its conventional (and asymmetrical) capabilities. Iran has literally used Hezbollah as an effective battering ram to degrade Israel- Israel is getting or is already war fatigued, Iran just got started- 1 OTH radar going down in Iran won't change much- are you kidding me? thats just 1 component of a large massive, organized dispersed unpredictable, networked backup up military machinery and activities in Iran.

Iran has basically deterred via "handicapping of military actions" of its adversaries- Israel has gotten beat up by Hezbollah and has not degraded it much (going by its daily operations), but meanwhile, Israel's AD network is degraded and has holes in it, its taking hits on vital sites that may/probably have been hit before already.
LongLiveIran said:
and it needs it fast and with enough destructive power.
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in your opinion! Nuclear weapons are not as simplea s they look, thats why Iran has not declared itself a nuclear military power.
LongLiveIran said:
I hope the leadership understands it too.
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No its you that needs to understand how and why Iran's leadership is handling the nuclear program- they are cautious but still protective and supportive of Iran's nuclear programs, for good reasons. They know better than we do.
 
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