Russia *OPEN TO PEACE* deal with Ukraine with Trump in office

[Yommie]

Again, Ukraine has enough funds to last a few years, and the EU (plus allies) has the time to find a solution for Trump.

Each day that passes, the less hope Ukraine has. Olaf Scholz and Justin Trudeau are expected to lose election next year. The longer the time, the more the West loses interest. 50 years from now Zelensky be 96 years old. Time is on Russia's side. Time is not on Ukraine's side.

 

[UKBengali]

Russia is short on manpower and weapons, with very few sources to replenish them. The Pentagon smells blood, and will sabotage Trump's efforts to get Kyiv to surrender.

The problem with this thinking is that if Russia was so short of manpower and weapons, it would stay on the defensive.

Russia is attacking now and that indicates that it feels it can take the losses of both men and weapons.

 

[Yommie]

The problem with this thinking is that if Russia was so short of manpower and weapons, it would stay on the defensive.

Russia is attacking now and that indicates that it feels it can take the losses of both men and weapons.

"When in Doubt, Attack" Mark Antony in HBO 'Rome'​

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[Developereo]

I don't know the legal fine print but Trump was able to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal signed by his predecessors.

With control of the Congress and Executive, maybe Trump has the necessary leverage to renege on previous commitments. Keep in mind that this election was not a GOP victory but a Trump victory. He knows that and the GOP knows that.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

If the West sees Putin is desperate for a deal they'll squeeze him as much as possible. They want to ensure the 3rd internal collapse of Russia starting from WW1. Trump's offer is being used as a bait....

 

[That_Guy]

The problem with this thinking is that if Russia was so short of manpower and weapons, it would stay on the defensive.

Russia is attacking now and that indicates that it feels it can take the losses of both men and weapons.

Or, it could mean they're desperate. The fact that they had to go out to north Korea to get additional man power says a lot.

 

[That_Guy]

EVs are already outselling gas cars in China, saying the world won't switch until the end of the century is pretty far fetched and saying that they won't switch until the middle of next is just downright crazy. In 20-30 years, no one will be buying gas cars except people in dirt poor countries like India/Pakistan/BD and African countries.

The world is bigger than America, Europe and China.

Those "dirty poor" countries make up a majority of the global population. Seriously, I addressed this with my previous comment; it's not a good argument.

 

[j_hungary]

Sure, but if Trump kicks up a fuss or refuses to support the war effort or puts pressure on zekensky to make peace by giving up land
Then Ukraine won't be able to continue the effort and others will follow trumps footsteps

Are you aware of what or who is Newsmax??

This is what the person who they hired to comment on intelligent think on the Ukraine issue

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https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ryan-mcbeth-israel-iran/2024/10/01/id/1182426/

And before him, there are a few ex-Trump advisor commented on the issue that Trump will most likely keep funding Ukraine. Until a satisfactory outcome is produced. This is what the far right was thinking.

And US have signed the bill in April this year and that is for a 3 years deal worth 61 billions dollars, (so for 2024, 2025 and 2026) Trump do not have enough senator to overturn that bill (you need 60 senator to overturn bill) and we will have a mid-term election in 2027.

 

[That_Guy]

Let's hope so, seeing dead Ukrainians makes me feel better after what they have done in Gaza

Seeing dead Ukrainian kids makes you feel better? That sort of thinking is no better than the racist zionists.

By the way, Russia is just as much of an enemy of Muslims as zionists are, they're just not stupid enough to openly say it.

 

[Yommie]

And US have signed the bill in April this year and that is for a 3 years deal worth 61 billions dollars, (so for 2024, 2025 and 2026) Trump do not have enough senator to overturn that bill (you need 60 senator to overturn bill) and we will have a mid-term election in 2027.

How much aid the president gives Ukraine is up to the president. He does not have to give the maximum amount if he does not want to. In fact, he can give no aid at all.

Tramp ain't going to give a single cent to Ukraine.

 

[j_hungary]

Or, it could mean they're desperate. The fact that they had to go out to north Korea to get additional man power says a lot.

What people failed to see is "People" is not soldier. So more "people" in a country does not equate to more soldiers.......

You need to be seriously train to be a soldier and execute maneuver and tactics in war, if I just plug a person on the street and give him a rifle and tell him to assault, he/she won't last 5 second. And training/doctrine development take times, time Russia don't have.

The force regeneration aspect of war is you need to keep pumping up enough "people" in the pipeline and turn them into soldier, which require a large deal of resource, equipment and time. All of which is what Russia is lacking at the moment, any spare resource they have, any spare equipment they have, it would have ended up in the frontline first, and then they don't have enough time to train a soldier from nothing to everything. You need a year and a half to 2 years for that. That's why he is going after international PMC (a lot of African and Chinese merc fought for Russia in Ukraine) and the North Korean, the issue here is, can they sustain that effort with just that as well?

 

[j_hungary]

How much aid the president gives Ukraine is up to the president. He does not have to give the maximum amount if he does not want to. In fact, he can give no aid at all.

Tramp ain't going to give a single cent to Ukraine.

dumbass. ALL MONEY REQUIRED ISSUE go thru congress, president don't have power to give money or stop giving money to a country. If the congress want, they can even stop the President from getting paid. They are the gatekeeper of the treasury, not the POTUS.

The bill is already passed, there are nothing Trump can do with bills that already passed.

 

[Yommie]

The bill is already passed, there are nothing Trump can do with bills that already passed.

The bills specifies the maximum amount of 13 billion dollars. The POTUS does not have to give the maximum amount. In fact, Tramp won't give a single cent to Ukraine. Biden only gave like half of the maximum amount of 13 billion dollars.

 

[j_hungary]

I don't know the legal fine print but Trump was able to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal signed by his predecessors.

With control of the Congress and Executive, maybe Trump has the necessary leverage to renege on previous commitments. Keep in mind that this election was not a GOP victory but a Trump victory. He knows that and the GOP knows that.

That's because JCPOA bill were never passed in 2015 to begin with

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3461

The Ukraine bill cleared the house and senate, he need 60 to renege on the bill, the number he does not have.

 

[j_hungary]

The bills specifies the maximum amount of 13 billion dollars. The POTUS does not have to give the maximum amount. In fact, Tramp won't give a single cent to Ukraine. Biden only gave like half of the maximum amount of 13 billion dollars.

Again, this is not up to Trump and POTUS, once a bill signed, it is up to INDIVIDUAL department to nominate the amount, in this case, it would be State Department for Foreign Aid and Department of Defence for defense aid.

Do you have any idea how weapon deal was sign?? IT NEVER WENT THRU THE PRESIDENT.