Russia *OPEN TO PEACE* deal with Ukraine with Trump in office

[UKBengali]

I have noticed Ukrainian POWs on captured videos they are all speaking Russian fluently. This war needs to end now. Coming back to the original question what Trump winning means for Kiev. I can say it looks like that the Trump supporters really see Ukrainian as an insignificant issue. Their main issue is the immediate world around them, they I think are real isolationists. Sort of what USA was like in the 1930s. For some this is good news for others not there is nothing you can do to change that.

Probably one of the most pointless wars in history.

Crimea and Donbas should have been ceded to Russia in 2014 after the US coup against the democratically elected pro-Russian President and now the two countries would have had peace and mutually beneficial cooperation.

 

[UKBengali]

There's nothing left to send. If there were, they would have sent it already instead of talking about it.

It is being sent as we speak.

Lots more artillery shells, air defence missiles and ATACMs etc.

 

[KingQamaR]

Probably one of the most pointless wars in history.

Crimea and Donbas should have been ceded to Russia in 2014 after the US coup against the democratically elected pro-Russian President and now the two countries would have had peace and mutually beneficial cooperation.

You are absolutely right.

This war has gone on since 2014 and nearly a million dead

Russia controlled Ukraine for 1,200 years and it didn’t bother anyone.

 

[UKBengali]

You are absolutely right.

This war has gone on since 2014 and nearly a million dead

Russia controlled Ukraine for 1,200 years and it didn’t bother anyone.

Russians and Ukrainians are like British and Australians.

Ukraine got played by outside powers and they have died in the hundreds of thousands, cities and infrastructure devastated and in massive debt to the west.

They were much better off being close to Russia but also having links to the west as was the case before 2014.

 

[KingQamaR]

Russians and Ukrainians are like British and Australians.

Ukraine got played by outside powers and they have died in the hundreds of thousands, cities and infrastructure devastated and in massive debt to the west.

They were much better off being close to Russia but also having links to the west as was the case before 2014.

I forgot to mention that a lot of Europe is energy dependent on the pipelines that run through Ukraine. Controlling Ukraine is like controlling the tap on Europe’s economy and livelihood. Basically the Cold War never stopped really? . If that Zelenskyy Zionists plot didn’t provoke Russia by asking to join NATO and would have had Ukrainian remain neutral there would have not have been a War!

 

[j_hungary]

Only 13 out of 60 are for Ukraine, the rest are for replenishing American stock.

The entire bill is 96 bil. not 61

Specifically for 2024 and 2025

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8035/text

And 2026





Not asking much, but could you at least do some research before you post?

 

[Yommie]

The entire bill is 96 bil. not 61

Specifically for 2024 and 2025

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8035/text

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And 2026

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Not asking much, but could you at least do some research before you post?

That's the maximum amount they can give. They can't give what they don't have. There are no spare M1A1, M2A2 left. I guess Biden can chop off a finger and value that at 100 billion dollars and give it to Ukraine.

 

[j_hungary]

That's the maximum amount they can give. They can't give what they don't have. There are no spare M1A1, M2A2 left. I guess Biden can chop off a finger and value that at 100 billion dollars and give it to Ukraine.

Are you serious?

Setting aside it's a fact that US have more than 8000 M1 Abrams but the US Military as a whole only have 16 Armroed Brigade (which roughly 100 tanks per Brigade), are you saying the US cannot physically build new tank, the United States of America have no capacity to build a single tank at all?

 

[drkrn86]

They have said they will send all promised materials to Ukraine before Trump takes over.

Let's see

 

[Yommie]

Are you serious?

Setting aside it's a fact that US have more than 8000 M1 Abrams but the US Military as a whole only have 16 Armroed Brigade (which roughly 100 tanks per Brigade), are you saying the US cannot physically build new tank, the United States of America have no capacity to build a single tank at all?

The US has about 2,000 active M1A2. Not a single M1A2 was given to Ukraine. Only 31 decommissioned M1A1 were given to Ukraine. If they had more M1A1 more spare, they would have given them. Clearly, there's no more for spare.

 

[nahtanbob]

Heating costs

Shoplifting pandemic

Crime

Migration



It's sad, the people deserve better they trust the system they pay for


Billions on billions abroad

It looks like you could use Donald Trump

 

[nahtanbob]

So bad that you didn't consider this a chance to teat their interoperability.
China wouldnt join for obvious reasons but am sure that they are working with the Russians.

inter-operability for what ?? When is the last time Russian or Soviet forces conducted joint military exercises with their North Korean counterparts ?

 

[nahtanbob]

Very unlikely. The previous USA government have backed up this war.
With their current economic conditions and impact of this prolonged conflict, none will have the hunger for this conflict to extend.

Do you pull facts out of your rear ? Or do you any research ?
There are reasons to end the Russia-Ukraine war. Financial is not one of them

USA has provided Ukraine with $64.1 billion over 2.5 years
Do you know what the total US federal budget is over that time interval ?

A lot of $64.1 billion is to pay for Javelins, Stingers and Patriot missiles. In other words they go into the pockets of US defense companies.

Could you post corresponding numbers for Russia ?

 

[That_Guy]

Not sure how much difference that N Korea's 10K troops are going to be making to be honest.

Russia is trying to avoid conscripting as many "real Russians" as possible and so that is why they have been bribing and forcing as many ethnic minorities to fight in Ukraine as they can.

Now if in return for missile technology, N Korea is willing to send some soldiers to man the border regions with Ukraine then that is all good for Russia. N Korean troops are not going to be fighting against Ukrainians anytime soon, if ever.

If the need arises then they can call on more "real Russians" to fight in Ukraine.

The evidence suggests that Russia is about(12-18 months) to collapse Ukraine and not vice-versa. EU countries like Germany are already cutting aid as they don't have much money and know it is a losing cause. UK has also done something similar.

I disagree, Ukraine is far from collapsing and evidence suggests that they're quite suited to fighting for at least 3 years.

German aid has always been overrated, but there is no indication that Germany is decreasing support on the ground.

As for NK, I believe a soldier has already been captured by Ukrainians, with indications that DPRK forces are gathering with RF soldiers for a new offensive against Ukraine. How successful it will be, we'll have to see, but considering the past, Russian offensives constantly end up stalling.

Who knows? We're just speculating at this point.

 

[Yommie]

I disagree, Ukraine is far from collapsing and evidence suggests that they're quite suited to fighting for at least 3 years.

German aid has always been overrated, but there is no indication that Germany is decreasing support on the ground.

As for NK, I believe a soldier has already been captured by Ukrainians, with indications that DPRK forces are gathering with RF soldiers for a new offensive against Ukraine. How successful it will be, we'll have to see, but considering the past, Russian offensives constantly end up stalling.

Who knows? We're just speculating at this point.

Ukraine has plenty of men to fight for another 30 years no problem. With a population of 30 million, they can easily mobilize a few million males.