Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Ali_Baba]

If Assad falls, then expect a civil war to soon break out again.

The Turkish backed rebels and Kurds may have a "pause" for a while but it will soon blow up again as they will be at each other's throats.

What we will not have is any unified Syrian state anymore.

It does look like the end of Syria as we know it, and the birth of Kurdistan and the Turks only have themselves to blame for it. They are too short sighted to see that right now, but the trend line is there now.

 

[Sinan]

There should be a thread named "Whining about Syria" and all the whiners should go there. Sick of scrolling off topic posts.

 

[KingQamaR]

I wouldn’t count Dictator Assad out just yet, he still controls a large army ( seeing as most Syrian soldiers have ran rather than fight) and his allies may end up increasing their support. But SDF is now in control of all the routes and border crossings leading into Syria from Iraq. This could go south for HTS fast if they mess up.

 

[MMM-E]

have you included the profit Turkey has made from the profit of oil sales? This oil assured Israel continued the butchering of Palestinian souls.

Same cheap propaganda is everywhere

1 -- Its not Turkish oil
2 --Its not Turkish Pipeline

Turkiye can not block it which determined by international agreements for decades

The partners of the pipeline are BP, SOCAR, MOL, Equinor, Turkish Petroleum Corporation, Eni, TotalEnergies, ITOCHU, INPEX, ExxonMobil and ONGCVidesh


Also there are special relationship between Azerbaijan and Israel

When Iran supported christian Armenia against muslim Azerbaijan during invasion of Karabbakh , only Israel gave advanced weapons to Azerbaijan

 

[Sinan]

I wouldn’t count Dictator Assad out just yet, he still controls a large army ( seeing as most Syrian soldiers have ran rather than fight) and his allies may end up increasing their support. But SDF is now in control of all the routes and border crossings leading into Syria from Iraq. This could go south for HTS fast if they mess up.

Outside additional support will not be available.

Maybe Assad stands a chance if he can amass his army on homs. Hold out for several weeks and gradually grinds rebels at the gates of homs.

 

[That_Guy]

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Iran was invited by the Syrian Government. Turkey was not and is unlawfully present in Syria.

To be fair, Assad's rule was never really considered legitimate by most Syrians.

So him inviting Iran doesn't matter much. It's as legitimate as the SNA saying they invited Turkish support.

 

[Sinan]

Same cheap propaganda is everywhere

1 -- Its not Turkish oil
2 --Its not Turkish Pipeline

Turkiye can not block it which determined by international agreements for decades

The partners of the pipeline are BP, SOCAR, MOL, Equinor, Turkish Petroleum Corporation, Eni, TotalEnergies, ITOCHU, INPEX, ExxonMobil and ONGCVidesh


Also there are special relationship between Azerbaijan and Israel

When Iran supported christian Armenia against muslim Azerbaijan during invasion of Karabbakh , only Israel gave advanced weapons to Azerbaijan

Shias coping as usual.

Where were they, when shia militias and their enablers, were bombing schools, hospitals in Aleppo. Killing men, women, children alike.

These people sicken me with their two faced behavior. Characterless, coward, taqqiya lover heretics.

 

[PakAl]

In reference to Palmyra, there seems to be even a race between all of rebel factions. Syrian rebels (HTS) from the North and US-backed rebels from the South (Al Tanf), as well as US-backed SDF forces from the Euphrates (Tabqa) are currently converging on this famous desert city.
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3 ways race. U love to see it. I'm rooting for the Kurds out of the three lol

SDF coming in between SAA and HTS so with Assad gone you have SDF/PKK replacing him, back to square one lol. What's interesting is when Turkey invaded Syria, it was the SAA which protected SDF and now it's the other way round.

 

[Sinan]

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[Sinan]

Looks like opposition forces entered homs city.

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[Ghostkiller]

No, one step at a time. At best Kurds can take some desert in the East, makes no diffence.
Rebels shouldn't divide forces. Focus on bringing Assad down.

-Damascus should fall.
- Tartus and Latakia.
-Sweeping PKK to east of Eupharates
- Completely dismantling PKK in Syria.

All lands liberated.

So with, Syria will be a puppet state of Turkey. All lands will be liberated from Assad, Russians and Iranians influence and then be under Turkish influence. Turkey doesn't care about the Syrians, Turkey uses the chaos so they can fight PKK, YPG etc...

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No president can win with 95% acceptance especially when your country is in a civil war. That is BS election. Just a propaganda to make Assad democratic.

Assad nor HTS will be the future of Syria. They must not be in power.

 

[That_Guy]

I wouldn’t count Dictator Assad out just yet, he still controls a large army ( seeing as most Syrian soldiers have ran rather than fight) and his allies may end up increasing their support. But SDF is now in control of all the routes and border crossings leading into Syria from Iraq. This could go south for HTS fast if they mess up.

No, it's pretty much over for Assad. Russian and Iranian staff are evacuating. Assad's family has already reportedly left the country. Damascus is cut off from the coast.

The SAA is withdrawing to Damascus's city center where they intend to put up a ladt stand.

The war is pretty much over for Assad.

Assad has lost.

What I'm most interested in right now is the day after. HTS chief has said he's going to dissolve HTS and form a proper Government that's supposedly inclusive of racial and religious minorities, including Kurds.

Rumors have it that the HTS is negotiating with with SDF and SNA for a power sharing deal that could see the end of the war and an unofficial splitting of the country on a permanent basis in the form of a federation, but bringing peace to the country and some sort of national unity.

I doubt it though.

Personally, I think only phase one of the war has ended. I think HTS, SNA, and SDF are now likely to fight each other. The civil war, in my opinion, is far from over.

 

[KingQamaR]

Outside additional support will not be available.

Maybe Assad stands a chance if he can amass his army on homs. Hold out for several weeks and gradually grinds rebels at the gates of homs.

Unless Iran is able to airlift number of troops necessary into Lebanon from where they could move towards and reinforce Homs, Latakia, and Damascus. Whether Iran has that logistical capacity remains to be seen, however those troops will only be able to bring small arms with them, no tanks, artillery etc.

 

[hyperman]

That is what Erdogan/Turkey thinks is in your interest.

What part of my post is a "conspiracy theory" btw?

Erdogan just admitted he backed the rebels against the internationally recognised government of Syria and Turkey has been working for years on strengthening relations between Turkic countries.

Move on already, stop moping, Assad is likely finished. Its your own fault for putting all your hopes into him, looking past his crimes against people in Hama and Aleppo for some BS regarding "the resistance". Your beloved Assad was getting ready to sell Iran out to the US and GCC states in exchange for money and sanctions relief. Assad only cares about himself(and that has been proven throughout history, if anyone actually looks into his father and his history ironically of facilitating zionists, from what they did in Jordan betraying the PLO, to Golan being annexed under his watch), Assad only ever cared about staying in power, not some sort of noble goal about "resisting and freeing palestine".

 

[hyperman]

It does look like the end of Syria as we know it, and the birth of Kurdistan and the Turks only have themselves to blame for it. They are too short sighted to see that right now, but the trend line is there now.

Are you trying wish things into existence against Turkey out of spite b/c Assad Kun look like he is done? lmao

Assad was making deals with the PKK. Ironically with him out of the picture, the SNA took out the Tel Rifaat pocket, and now is moving towards manbij.

And the PKK supporters whether they think that Assad falling is helping them or hurting them. lol

"Kurdistan" already exists, its called the KRG in Iraq.